play like gods in their country and then always disappoint and place lowest in internationals. give another cn team the chance man. these guys are the ultimate gatekeepers of cn valorant
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CarnageBTC [#5]wdym "always" ... thats just bangkok
they were 7th-8th in champs and beat FUCKING ASPAS
Frogger0_0 [#7]they were 7th-8th in champs and beat FUCKING ASPAS
??? champs had 16 teams ??? tf u mean buddy
xineFso [#4]all the china teams beside EDG are just ass that’s why they’re not a real VCT league
Talon didn’t make Bangkok
Talon placed under both Chinese teams at Champs (Trace and EDG)
CarnageBTC [#9]??? champs had 16 teams ??? tf u mean buddy
THEY WERENT DEAD LAST
OP IS TRIPPING
DOESNT KNOW WHAT TRACE HAVE DONE
CarnageBTC [#9]??? champs had 16 teams ??? tf u mean buddy
He’s support your point bud idk why ur tryna argue with him
Frogger0_0 [#12]THEY WERENT DEAD LAST
OP IS TRIPPING
DOESNT KNOW WHAT TRACE HAVE DONE
OK OK I AGREE WITH U ... I THOUGHT U WERE ARGUING WITH ME !!!!
mimosa1 [#10]Talon didn’t make Bangkok
Talon placed under both Chinese teams at Champs (Trace and EDG)
keep ur bias aside china league is not real
Talon didn’t qualify ? maybe because they’re in a competitive and strong region not China lmfao
DAIH [#11]Ah yes because BLG or XLG or DRG would've surely gone on to beat G2 and T1 and win the entire tournament right? Also Trace have been at two major tournaments and made it through the group/swiss stage once. 50% success rate ain't too bad imo.
Yup i miss fpx. I want nova & fpx to make top 3. Trace is just mid team.
Yuniee44 [#17]Î dont even blame the players the coach literally sold them at bangkok
I can blame fengf and Heybay, they can't aim at all during masters. The rest I'm chill, but those two were horrible during master.
xineFso [#15]keep ur bias aside china league is not real
Talon didn’t qualify ? maybe because they’re in a competitive and strong region not China lmfao
Ok so you said all the China teams besides EDG are ass....Why did Trace make it out of a group that Talon was first eliminated from?
Is this bias or fact?
mimosa1 [#19]Ok so you said all the China teams besides EDG are ass....Why did Trace make it out of a group that Talon was first eliminated from?
Is this bias or fact?
stop defending TE bro theres no way TE lets this team with no coordination and a CF player get 11 rounds on pearl. trace is ASS rn, CN has been a one team region since day one. even if u insulted talon, it doesnt change the fact that T1 DRX GENG are competitive, while TE is losing like a dog on stage LMAO. ur just making urself look stupid by attacking his fav team
brahianv [#20]such a mid team send fpx not these overrated bums of tr0ce
fpx as of rn do not look better than Trace Esports at all.
tserc [#22]fpx as of rn do not look better than Trace Esports at all.
Fpx when not throwing trolling comps & shit is scary team. And this yoru meta is made for life.No way new fpx coach gonna troll with weird comps.
silver5 [#21]stop defending TE bro theres no way TE lets this team with no coordination and a CF player get 11 rounds on pearl. trace is ASS rn, CN has been a one team region since day one. even if u insulted talon, it doesnt change the fact that T1 DRX GENG are competitive, while TE is losing like a dog on stage LMAO. ur just making urself look stupid by attacking his fav team
Because Trace simply copied comps from Bangkok. Double duelist from T1 replacing Sova with Tejo, and G2 Comp on Lotus (Breach/Tejo) that everyone is playing.
CN isn't a one team region the teams are simply getting better and can compete. If we want to go off of your reactive logic than NA is also a one team region right now
Ronyko23 [#23]Fpx when not throwing trolling comps & shit is scary team. And this yoru meta is made for life.No way new fpx coach gonna troll with weird comps.
by the way who will be the fpx coach?
mimosa1 [#24]Because Trace simply copied comps from Bangkok. Double duelist from T1 replacing Sova with Tejo, and G2 Comp on Lotus (Breach/Tejo) that everyone is playing.
CN isn't a one team region the teams are simply getting better and can compete. If we want to go off of your reactive logic than NA is also a one team region right now
im sorry TE wont even beat sen/loud/mibr, its not even about comps rn, players just look ass at the game (mainly ff)
silver5 [#26]im sorry TE wont even beat sen/loud/mibr, its not even about comps rn, players just look ass at the game (mainly ff)
This does not contradict the term 'one team region' and yes he's playing quite bad
mimosa1 [#27]This does not contradict the term 'one team region' and yes he's playing quite bad
at least NA has somewhat competitive teams, every year CN has a fluke team which wins 2 games then instantly starts eating absolute shit right afterwards
Frogger0_0 [#6]they placed 7th-8th in champs 2024
beat leviatan who placed #3 at champs and you're telling me they place lowest in internationals
Recency bias they definitely did fumble hard at bangkok idk what happened to them and SEN as soon as they got to Bangkok although yeah OP is ignoring last year for some reason
silver5 [#29]at least NA has somewhat competitive teams, every year CN has a fluke team which wins 2 games then instantly starts eating absolute shit right afterwards
I don't know why you expect CN to have super competitive teams compared to other regions who've had more time to develop.
However, there are teams in CN now that can be competitive internationally.
twxnty [#2]all gamers are just unfathomably awful, anyone can play like gods against them
All Gamers really got a full football lineup with 5 coaching staff and still can't figure things out. They got an academy roster as well so god knows what their scrims look like.
mimosa1 [#32]I don't know why you expect CN to have super competitive teams compared to other regions who've had more time to develop.
However, there are teams in CN now that can be competitive internationally.
"teams" its team im sorry to break it to you, te is ass rn
silver5 [#36]"teams" its team im sorry to break it to you, te is ass rn
they weren't with the meta at bangkok and they got shit on, all in all they were able to beat EDG at kickoff.....
they beat LEV (3rd champs) at Seoul
you calling them ass is just the common notion of being reactionary
Ryandr [#39]Hopefully fpx is completely back. If fpx is back they will just straight up aim diff even trace.
Fpx has been to 5 international events and have won a single game
mimosa1 [#37]they weren't with the meta at bangkok and they got shit on, all in all they were able to beat EDG at kickoff.....
they beat LEV (3rd champs) at Seoul
you calling them ass is just the common notion of being reactionary
idk if u can read the word "rn", it means RIGHT NOW, they are indeed washed right now including the lack of trying new comps and almost losing to All Glue, which they lost on their good map lotus and almost allowed a comeback with 12 rounds on their hands, they are washed af RIGHT NOW
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