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derke>aspas?

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#1
indomie

are we ready for this conversation or no? if derke wins master bangcock i believe he will have surpassed aspas at his current form

#2
Wolfed
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i think he’s already in the conversation, regardless if he wins or not
this guy must be the scariest to play against in any server

#3
zarpela
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although i think aspas is the uncontested goat, derke is an easy top 2

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OCARINA
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Reference ?

#11
zarpela
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wdym

#4
Ouken
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derke really wants to win tournaments

aspas doesn't care about winning that's the difference

#6
zarpela
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!?!

#8
indomie
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i dont think there's a vct player other than j0nggg and n0thing that doesn't care about winning, but you do you

#9
OCARINA
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Why?? Derke has already two internationals and three regionals
But still on my opinion Derke=Aspas

#10
egann
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is that supposed to be a good thing

#15
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Its a bad thing for aspas

#25
LostMyAccount
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Lol
If anything aspas not going to another superteam just showed how selfless he is. He's trying to win for Brazil, not just for himself

#26
Congo1
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Lmao. Bro wants to go to japan just for the lifestyle lmao. Guy has no ambition. Nothing selfless about it

#7
Tuiron
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yes

#12
elysxxm
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He’s been in that conversation ever since 2023 let’s be fr bro

3 grand finals appearances
2 finals wins (back to back)
Carried a washed fnatic without Leo
Been doing this since 2021

#14
indomie
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i feel like he was underrated in 2024 because fnatic were hot ass, but that was not his fault

#13
sergueiessenine
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he's been better lol

#16
Huuuuugo
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Aspas plays very well on all teams, Derke is spoiled and has never played on a team without a Sentinel better than him.

#18
indomie
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?????, he was not spoiled on the shitty fnatic 2024 roster

#22
Huuuuugo
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Alfajer has always been a step above Derke, at any time

#21
catNmouse
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he had a shitter team in 2024 and was the highest rated player in champs

#17
RzqoFoxie
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Easily

#19
1One1
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Individual: Both equal
Teamwork: Derke
Carrying mid team: Aspas

#20
indomie
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fnatic 2024 was mid, lev was NOT mid and aspas got diffed by ZELLSIS in mibr

#23
LostMyAccount
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One has an international superteam the other is trying to keep his scene alive playing on a roster with four rookies built from scratch. Not a fair comparison at the moment

#24
indomie
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im talking about career, accomplishments and legacy bro

#28
mzto
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then aspas > derke

#29
LostMyAccount
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Aspas more regional titles if im not wrong and Champions > masters and lock in

Also their h2h goes in aspas' favor

But i have to agree that if Derke wins here he surpass aspas, at least for now. Both are going toe-to-toe though.

#27
WatsomN
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Derke made anyteam he's in a "superteam", while aspas proven can bring any team he's into top level.

Kinda biased, but vitality need to win this tourney (or atleast make grandfinal) so i can agreee derke > aspas

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