ill always say sen is best team in world but genuine question
when sen won iceland i feel like they were known as by far the best team in the world and they got a lot of recognition.
how come when gambit won a bigger event i feel like they barely get any credit as the best team in the world and not very many people talk about them as much as iceland.
+1 sen were 100% said to be number one because they had a close game vs fnatic, now gambit win a bigger and harder lan but they're average because sentinels are allowed a bad tournament :P
remembering gambit lost a close game to fnatic in the match to qualify to iceland, there could have definitely been a world where gambit win both iceland and berlin, but for sen, they weren't even close
ravissant [#7]+1 sen were 100% said to be number one because they had a close game vs fnatic, now gambit win a bigger and harder lan but they're average because sentinels are allowed a bad tournament :P
remembering gambit lost a close game to fnatic in the match to qualify to iceland, there could have definitely been a world where gambit win both iceland and berlin, but for sen, they weren't even close
get gambits dick out of your mouth bro the reason gambit aren't talked about as much for the berlin performance is because it wasn't as dominant as sentinels
wedqatwrtgehge [#8]get gambits dick out of your mouth bro the reason gambit aren't talked about as much for the berlin performance is because it wasn't as dominant as sentinels
There were 2 na and 2 emea teams in Iceland, no VS either, literally a mickey mouse lan. Calling sen "by far" the best team in the world because they won a lan with 3 actual opponents is pretty stupid, Berlin was waaay better in terms of participants' quality. 7ssk7 can dominate a lan in my town, doesn't make him the best player in the world.
Itsover [#12]There were 2 na and 2 emea teams in Iceland, no VS either, literally a mickey mouse lan. Calling sen "by far" the best team in the world because they won a lan with 3 actual opponents is pretty stupid, Berlin was waaay better in terms of participants' quality. 7ssk7 can dominate a lan in my town, doesn't make him the best player in the world.
what? they were by far the best team at the time because those were the teams that won their respective reigions at the time, your comment makes zero sense.
wedqatwrtgehge [#13]what? they were by far the best team at the time because those were the teams that won their respective reigions at the time, your comment makes zero sense.
If Gambit won Fnatic they would've won Reykjavik, 1 loss means nothing because Fnatic is a team of much lower caliber (look where they are now)
Gambit had tendency to underperform against EU tier1 opposition, but if they overcame it that playoffs day - SEN wouldn't stand a chance at LAN
You saw it this time during Stage 3, as the tournament unfolded Gambit have been building the better version of themselves and slowly turning into real Scrimbit
Too bad Riot gave us only 2 slots back then, cuz if it was 3 we would possibly witness another team lifting Masters 2 trophy
edtheking12 [#3]iceland= first event
berlin= nuturn liquid fnatic not here= many fans arent as hyped
mvp aka nats, isnt as flashy as tenz, which doesnt hype it up as much
haha people downvoted you for speaking facts.
I think the reason SEN got recognition for being "number 1" was because they won without dropping a map, which at an international tournament is obviously a big deal. I think the reason Gambit is getting as much of a recognition in comparison was because they did throw some games cough cough 100t cough cough. But i do think gambit rn are the best team
no_rice_no_life [#11]cis is all on csgo bro, especially when their scene is on rise there since navi and gambit dominating the game
Even cis dota rn is not that bad, valorant just gets no attention when there's TI and stockholm major with cis being real contenders for both titles.
Olofboost [#14]If Gambit won Fnatic they would've won Reykjavik, 1 loss means nothing because Fnatic is a team of much lower caliber (look where they are now)
Gambit had tendency to underperform against EU tier1 opposition, but if they overcame it that playoffs day - SEN wouldn't stand a chance at LAN
You saw it this time during Stage 3, as the tournament unfolded Gambit have been building the better version of themselves and slowly turning into real Scrimbit
Too bad Riot gave us only 2 slots back then, cuz if it was 3 we would possibly witness another team lifting Masters 2 trophy
youre saying that so confidently even though it's completely hypothetical LMAO
LNG [#17]I think the reason SEN got recognition for being "number 1" was because they won without dropping a map, which at an international tournament is obviously a big deal. I think the reason Gambit is getting as much of a recognition in comparison was because they did throw some games cough cough 100t cough cough. But i do think gambit rn are the best team
Idk the format in champions but if there's double elim in playoffs it will be an insane tournament in terms of quality, nv played like shit in the finals(whiffing on second half of haven and the whole split game) which is not really characteristic of them, they can do better this time. Top 3 will be stacked af.
SignificantDot [#15]Wtf are you talking about?
Gambit is the best team in the world. Sentinels lost so many games in Berlin. They aren’t the best anymore.
they lost 2 thats not so many
impression of best team is driven by public perception. sentinels had by far the strongest social presence and had tenz, the player everyone was touting as “best player in the world by far”
hell you can even look at vlr forum stats lmao, there are almost 2x the number of SEN flairs than there are the next most popular team
obviously they got hyped harder. people say “it’s because they didn’t drop a map” but in reality sen had multiple close maps and the overall strength of teams at iceland was nowhere near comparable to berlin
tldr social presence
OkOkay [#21]they lost 2 thats not so many
They dropped 6 maps overall. EU is the best region. Sentinels is no longer the best.
SignificantDot [#23]They dropped 6 maps overall. EU is the best region. Sentinels is no longer the best.
EMEA* and lets just wait for champions to know the best
social media presence, EU pros bar mixwell, scream... are barely able to reach 500 viewers on twitch, they dont get that much attention, NA players have way more marketing than EU pros, who wants to watch random noname eu kids with fucked up english speaking on their own countries language most of the time? that doesnt really attract the general fan tbh
idkbro [#26]social media presence, EU pros bar mixwell, scream... are barely able to reach 500 viewers on twitch, they dont get that much attention, NA players have way more marketing than EU pros, who wants to watch random noname eu kids with fucked up english speaking on their own countries language most of the time? that doesnt really attract the general fan tbh
nats and redgar avg like 5k viewers lol, most of them arent even russian
wedqatwrtgehge [#19]youre saying that so confidently even though it's completely hypothetical LMAO
you're saying gambit aren't as good because they didn't stomp shitters like vikings and nuturn lol
Olofboost [#14]If Gambit won Fnatic they would've won Reykjavik, 1 loss means nothing because Fnatic is a team of much lower caliber (look where they are now)
Gambit had tendency to underperform against EU tier1 opposition, but if they overcame it that playoffs day - SEN wouldn't stand a chance at LAN
You saw it this time during Stage 3, as the tournament unfolded Gambit have been building the better version of themselves and slowly turning into real Scrimbit
Too bad Riot gave us only 2 slots back then, cuz if it was 3 we would possibly witness another team lifting Masters 2 trophy
Olofboost, I see you've invested 2 minutes of your time writing utter nonsense. Making up of impossible scenarios is lunacy at it's finest. As you see, you cannot alter things that happened in the past. Therefore, your 'ifs' and 'buts' are not valid at all. Gambit lost to Fnatic, case closed. At that time Fnatic were much better. Sentinels won Iceland. Gambit won Berlin. Instead of making up scenarios which is not possible, it is better to hope that Scrimbit win Champions instead.
I know a lot of NA fans ride on copium but this is a bit of copium overdose if you ask me.
Next time I wish that you use your grey cells to write an article that makes sense.
idkbro [#26]social media presence, EU pros bar mixwell, scream... are barely able to reach 500 viewers on twitch, they dont get that much attention, NA players have way more marketing than EU pros, who wants to watch random noname eu kids with fucked up english speaking on their own countries language most of the time? that doesnt really attract the general fan tbh
Faker , Showmaker , Jankos , S1mple , Kenny , Sumail all talk in their regional language most of the times in intense situations with the team , still they get more viewers
Deleted_Old_Id [#33]Faker , Showmaker , Jankos , S1mple , Kenny , Sumail all talk in their regional language most of the times in intense situations with the team , still they get more viewers
he is talking about Valorant. people watch Faker, showmaker, jankos, simple, kenny because they are the best in their esports and they care about that esports.
DragonDrac [#34]he is talking about Valorant. people watch Faker, showmaker, jankos, simple, kenny because they are the best in their esports and they care about that esports.
HE made the point that nobody watches people with fucked up english and regional language but thats not true
balls [#6]Cause Iceland was a bigger event than Berlin, viewership and hype wise. And CIS has no valorant fans.
everyone there is still on the navi major hype
Daniveus [#27]Valorant is more popular in NA and u guys didn't shut up about how sentinels destroyed fnatic until berlin started.
overtimes and 13-11 games = destroyed lul
OkOkay [#21]they lost 2 thats not so many
It's the maximum amount of games you can lose in that format bruh
shyftnot [#40]teams weren't famous enough and nobody disagrees Gambit is the best team in the world but it wasn't a clean sweep.
because they face a harder competition than sentinel in iceland
Number1_poiz_jettgod_fan [#36]everyone there is still on the navi major hype
CIS valorant gets like 2k viewers
cis people don't like valorant at all compared to csgo
Gambit dropped the match against acend in emea playoffs to berlin but since then they leant their mistake so quick and improved on it and end up being a champion of emea. the same exact thing happened to berlin. if they lose they improved on the mistake as quick as you can't think. gambit is hardworking team. won't be surprised if they win again.
Blazieboy [#30]Olofboost, I see you've invested 2 minutes of your time writing utter nonsense. Making up of impossible scenarios is lunacy at it's finest. As you see, you cannot alter things that happened in the past. Therefore, your 'ifs' and 'buts' are not valid at all. Gambit lost to Fnatic, case closed. At that time Fnatic were much better. Sentinels won Iceland. Gambit won Berlin. Instead of making up scenarios which is not possible, it is better to hope that Scrimbit win Champions instead.
I know a lot of NA fans ride on copium but this is a bit of copium overdose if you ask me.
Next time I wish that you use your grey cells to write an article that makes sense.
Still haven’t answered why gambit aren’t getting the same recognition
OkOkay [#24]EMEA* and lets just wait for champions to know the best
Europe is the best region why are you adding Africa and the Middle East ?
mclife20 [#41]because they face a harder competition than sentinel in iceland
not to mention that SEN was extremely luck to not drop a map if we're being honest with ourselves. Fnatic could have easily won several maps, if not the series.
MaruxFlux [#28]nats and redgar avg like 5k viewers lol, most of them arent even russian
After they won berlin, they were not getting anywhere near that before
wedqatwrtgehge [#8]get gambits dick out of your mouth bro the reason gambit aren't talked about as much for the berlin performance is because it wasn't as dominant as sentinels
get ur tongue out of tenz's ass please
number_1_bjor_fan [#42]CIS valorant gets like 2k viewers
cis people don't like valorant at all compared to csgo
Yeah CIS region is more into CS at the moment
Blazieboy [#30]Olofboost, I see you've invested 2 minutes of your time writing utter nonsense. Making up of impossible scenarios is lunacy at it's finest. As you see, you cannot alter things that happened in the past. Therefore, your 'ifs' and 'buts' are not valid at all. Gambit lost to Fnatic, case closed. At that time Fnatic were much better. Sentinels won Iceland. Gambit won Berlin. Instead of making up scenarios which is not possible, it is better to hope that Scrimbit win Champions instead.
I know a lot of NA fans ride on copium but this is a bit of copium overdose if you ask me.
Next time I wish that you use your grey cells to write an article that makes sense.
Whatever dude...
Gambit could've lost to Liquid at past EMEA Finals too, Liquid had a match point on Icebox 3v2 man advantage, nats got somewhat lucky with the timing to get the kill and made the situation 2v2, and Gambit won that round and later the series.
But what if nats missed that timing? He dies, 1v3 man disadvantage for the boys, Gambit lose, everyone heartbroken, and history of whole Valorant changes... Some another team is getting the Masters 3 trophy.
My point is that it could be the same against Fnatic, I'm not saying it is 100% but you see what happened with this Liquid situation, the sickest comeback from being down bad in lower bracket to winning everything in the end.
Lotta reasons, most have already been discussed.. not sure if mentioned afaik Sentinels players are better known.
Sure Sentinels didn't drop a map, they were in top form... they werent in top form in Berlin
I think Gambit is considered the best team in the world its just not talked about as much. I wont say their performance was as dominant as Sentinels but some of their wins were just almost embarrassing to the other team ( right Carlos? )
Gambit in form will take a team like Sentinels in form to beat sure 100T beat them and they rallied like crazy to get back in it, it was inspiring to watch but if we're being honest part of that is big mental go boom on Gambit which you can credit 100T for putting them in that position, but I feel like Sentinels don't tend to crumble to that degree, though I cant say I was super enthusiastic about their performance in Berlin.. hopefully TenZ is sharpening up his Raze. Let's be honest though as far as NA teams NV looked great.
I feel like Acend should be talked about up there but they rely on that one guy too much cNet) remember
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