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Spanish VCL

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#1
Aayan

What the FUCK is this format??
First having draws in group stage for some reason and now this
I don't even watch the region that much and this is annoying me

https://x.com/bowekpk/status/1889815258635837753

#2
TraditionalFlyer
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Frags
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Riot is stupid

#3
Mortadelo
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Riot doesn't make the format, each tournament organizer does, following certain parameters, mostly schedules

#4
Mortadelo
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Yeah they're gonna have 3 splits this year and the teams are set now, that part of the format probably makes sense for the future but it's stupid to apply it now aswell

And about the draws, when tier 2 started, bo2 were very common in most EMEA leagues, eventually they all moved on because it's fucking ass, it seems like LVP didn't get the message

#5
targuin
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That point system is... interesting.
Im not even sure if I like it in an ideal world where orgs stay the same over years, and rosters are consistent.

On the other hand the system other regions have is too far the other way, where it is SO easy to get relegated.
For example in Dach if you lose 2 bo3s and then the "relegation bo5" youre gone. You dont have time to fix your team if things go wrong (see PXU after beating BBL in the offseason)
So i do wonder where the correct middle ground is with such short splits (for Spain the normal relegation system would work since they got to play so many maps imo)

However I do have to defend the format. Spains format is the best in all the emea t2 regions. Everyone got to play 18 maps in groups, with main broadcast showing 6 per day (missing 4). Thats miles better than anyone else.

  • NE is a confusing mess and could broadcast everything due to its size (they have the best playoffs though tbf and the format is decent...ish if youre fine with bo1s)
  • Dach had a swiss system where 2 wins/losses meant you were done (so max 3 bo3s)
  • France was decent with everyone playing 3 bo3s + bo5 playins for 3rd place teams (4th gets relegated after just 3 bo3s)
  • And Turkey did a bo1 format, with split groups and only 8 maps played. Aka horrible. At least do a full group stage if youre gonna do bo1s.
  • Havent watched Mena so cant comment on them
#6
Huitzilopochtli
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great analysis, i think with spain the system in general is alr but idk abt the points from last year bcs of some weird scenarios (like KPI-> winning near everything 2024 and losing everything this year so far) maybe they work on the point distribution or so?

#8
targuin
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Im just not sure you can ever fix the point distribution

If a team gets relegated and a new team comes into the league they start at 0 points
That means they are basically guaranteed to get relegated again next split unless they make it to like top 4 in playoffs
Thats really rough for a t3 team

#7
makoidk
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NE's format is great imo

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