how does cs have so many massive tournaments

it seems there a massive tournament like every month

like huge tournaments with prize pools and viewerships equal to VCT masters and champions

Katowice just ended and theres a 1.25 million dollar tournament in romania then like a month after theres another 1.25 million dollar tournament in romania again

and theres like 4 other 400k-600k tournaments in the next few months, there was also like 4 huge cs events just in the past like 4 months

when will val become like this since rn its mainly just riot organising 3 internationals a year and thats it

its up to riot to accept tourney org's request and they are very strict with it afaik

them being control freaks over pro scene is killing t2 rn

cs is an open circuit. valve let other companies run tournaments. riot only lets themselves running it for now

having gambling money and gambling addicts helps

mitski [#4]

having gambling money and gambling addicts helps

riot accepted gambling sponsors in vct now. and still when they come it will be the same shit 3 tournament only)) nt

because valve isnt a control freak over their esports like riot is. they just allow other TOs to come in and organize the tournaments. the only ones valve pays for is the majors which are directly sponsored by them and we have 2 of those a year.

no monopoly over tournament organization and then capitalism doing its magic fueled by gambling money and cs in general being an infinite money glitch for orgs who make the major thanks to stickers so they amounts of cash that the esport moves is crazy

idkbro [#7]

no monopoly over tournament organization and then capitalism doing its magic fueled by gambling money and cs in general being an infinite money glitch for orgs who make the major thanks to stickers so they amounts of cash that the esport moves is crazy

unlike other esports where u have a big prize pool and thats it in cs majors u get stickers which will continue to give u money for as long as the game is alive

Nah i dont want VAL to become like CS
Even with kickoff i dont have time & energy to watch all the games
6 big event a year is already the ideal numbers

_Nonsense [#9]

Nah i dont want VAL to become like CS
Even with kickoff i dont have time & energy to watch all the games
6 big event a year is already the ideal numbers

yeah 3 international tournaments and 6 month off season is great bro!

foythvlr [#3]

cs is an open circuit. valve let other companies run tournaments. riot only lets themselves running it for now

it was franchising

_Nonsense [#9]

Nah i dont want VAL to become like CS
Even with kickoff i dont have time & energy to watch all the games
6 big event a year is already the ideal numbers

Agreed

Valve is not a control freak like Riot

mitski [#4]

having gambling money and gambling addicts helps

Yeah the gamblers are gonna say you're wrong but you right for sure. Its always the late 20's to late 30's gamblers.

laeDLaer [#10]

yeah 3 international tournaments and 6 month off season is great bro!

off season is being halfed this year from mid october-early january is pretty good imo especially with all the tournaments we got this year

kyro1 [#15]

off season is being halfed this year from mid october-early january is pretty good imo especially with all the tournaments we got this year

bro its the same amount of time without games, still same amount of tournaments. dont let them fool you...

2024 cs literally had 12 S tier events. wtf is riot doing

laeDLaer [#6]

because valve isnt a control freak over their esports like riot is. they just allow other TOs to come in and organize the tournaments. the only ones valve pays for is the majors which are directly sponsored by them and we have 2 of those a year.

so theres pgl events blast events and iem events

can u pls explain which ones are majors and which ones are like not?

on liquipedia it shows soooo many S tier tournaments which ones actually matter and people care about like vct masters and champions

and which organizer hosts cologne and katowice yearly and which organizer hosts the majors?

Taruuu1 [#17]

so theres pgl events blast events and iem events

can u pls explain which ones are majors and which ones are like not?

on liquipedia it shows soooo many S tier tournaments which ones actually matter and people care about like vct masters and champions

and which organizer hosts cologne and katowice yearly and which organizer hosts the majors?

Majors basically the champs of cs. 2 of them every year

IEM Katowice/Cologne considered very elite close to the majors because of the history behind them

the TO that hosts the tournament is decided by valve every year. the last major was hosted by Perfect World (chinese TO) in Shanghai and the next major will be hosted by Blast in Austin, Texas. but usually majors will be hosted by either ESL, Blast or PGL

all IEM (intel extreme masters) are ESL events

my rankings for events this year imo, some may not agree but i think most will
Majors
IEM KAtowice/Cologne
other IEMs, PGL events and EWC
all blast events and pro league
micky mouse t2 tournaments with insane prize pools like yalla compass, thunderpick, fissure playground (betboom dacha) and skyesports

in val terms basically the majors are champs, Katowice/Cologne like the 2nd masters and rest of IEMs, PGL and EWC are like the first masters (IMO)

laeDLaer [#18]

Majors basically the champs of cs. 2 of them every year

IEM Katowice/Cologne considered very elite close to the majors because of the history behind them

the TO that hosts the tournament is decided by valve every year. the last major was hosted by Perfect World (chinese TO) in Shanghai and the next major will be hosted by Blast in Austin, Texas. but usually majors will be hosted by either ESL, Blast or PGL

all IEM (intel extreme masters) are ESL events

my rankings for events this year imo, some may not agree but i think most will
Majors
IEM KAtowice/Cologne
other IEMs, PGL events and EWC
all blast events and pro league
micky mouse t2 tournaments with insane prize pools like yalla compass, thunderpick, fissure playground (betboom dacha) and skyesports

in val terms basically the majors are champs, Katowice/Cologne like the 2nd masters and rest of IEMs, PGL and EWC are like the first masters (IMO)

ty

Taruuu1 [#19]

ty

also if you want vlr for cs go to HLTV, basically vlr but 10000x more detailed with stats and everything is better

https://www.hltv.org

KOMPOSTO [#2]

its up to riot to accept tourney org's request and they are very strict with it afaik

them being control freaks over pro scene is killing t2 rn

Well said

Gamba

laeDLaer [#5]

riot accepted gambling sponsors in vct now. and still when they come it will be the same shit 3 tournament only)) nt

they accept that orgs have these sponsors, but they can't show these sponsorships in vct tournaments
also riot themselves aren't taking these sponsorships for official tournaments

KOMPOSTO [#2]

its up to riot to accept tourney org's request and they are very strict with it afaik

them being control freaks over pro scene is killing t2 rn

At the beginning of Valo, so until 2020, Riot's plan concerning Valo esports was to make it open circuit (at the time they've used words like 'community-based' or something similar along the lines, also mentioning different TOs and so on), like CS, and unlike League. Though for some reason they changed their mind going into 2021.

Though even if they allowed 3rd party TOs, Valo garnering as many S-tier tournaments as CS does is going to be really hard unless Riot accepts gambling sponsorship coming into the forefront of Val esports.