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shaq_attaqr

wtf is going on why are people genuinely acting like trace is the best 2 seed because edg did their usual trolling in regional upper bracket. Unless teams fuck up and let them play their best maps again they're 8th in the event

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trace good 👍

#3

shaq_attaqr

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I'm not saying they aren't good, this isn't a madrid fpx situation

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fpx almost beat heretics. should have, probably

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Hynix

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s0n literally fucked them right after that match fpx just happened to be playing good

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trace is the best 2nd seed. liquid is shit, sen is mid, and t1 kinda depends on the day.

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Hynix

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trace is clearly the worst team at this event lock in bro

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kyro1

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trace is clearly not bro lmao you dont watch cn if you think this. its liquid and its not even close

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Hynix

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VCT China:

EDG shits on all of the shit Chinese teams.
EDG lobotomize themselves for some reason.
Some shit Chinese team beats EDG and people hype them up.
The shit Chinese team gets grouped (unless Biank is on the team).

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kyro1

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im not hyping trace bc they beat edg 1 time its irrelevant but trace is good bro its not like fpx in madrid or something like that this team will be competitive

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NerfMaxima

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no one thinks trace is good because they beat edg once. its the fact that their macro has been far superior than edgs has, and it isnt even close. Trace should be hella mad they didnt win the final, because they played better than EDG but got diffed mechanically a lot. for example, trace lost 14-16 on abyss, when the only factor was this was because nobody could walk up mid and get like 3 people each round, even bind was just a massive zmjjkk masterclass saving his team from the depths of hell.

Trace are nowhere near a shit chinese team

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NerfMaxima

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oh I checked ur profile and your just a chinese team hater HAHAHAHAHHA, well played I got hella baited

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shaq_attaqr

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you're overcorrecting on the china underestimation from champs, their map pool is ass

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they have 3 bad maps, in bo3s thats fine

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kyro1

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no bro they have improved a lot from champs i get you prolly dont watch cn bc that was true before but genuinely their map pool is good they will beat probably any team on lotus and bind and their others are solid much better than most teams right now since they kept their team together.

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because trace looked better than EDG throughout the tournament, even in the grandfinal, trace played a more beautiful game while EDG had huge individual moments. The only real weakness trace has is that they have a weak map pool, and lack of experience (which didnt stop them from winning two games straight). its not like champs where trace can only win 2 maps. I think every team is relatively close hence the grandfinals for all the regions being close but trace on a macro level looks better, more consistently than t1, liquid or sen.

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shaq_attaqr

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they have by far the most exploitable map pool at the event and the beautiful macro you're talking about really ain't allat for most of these teams

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NerfMaxima

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what? you think these teams can aim diff trace? or what does this mean

the beautiful macro you're talking about really ain't allat for most of these teams

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shaq_attaqr

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I'm saying the other teams have similar or better macro on more maps

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NerfMaxima

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you are considering map pool way to much. Trace literally only need to worry to play 1 map their bad at. and their macro compared to the 2nd seeds is definitely better on those other maps

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kyro1

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bro this just isnt true whos macro are you talking about? drx who spam no info site hits? sentinels who are only here bc of hero plays? liquid?????? i promise you there isnt a team with better macro on bind right now

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sen beat mibr convincingly if we exclude pearl

they deserve to be here

#22

NerfMaxima

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sen definitely deserve to be here. but their macro is far worse than trace.

if mibr made it to bangkok then that is a fraudulant second seed

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kyro1

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mibr had 3 weeks of prac bro its more impressive they got there in the first place kinda speaks to the general level of play in americas right now

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im sorry but reading this thread is fucking disgusting, like watch a game before you speak