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Nerf shorty

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#1
Eyck

Shotguns should be nerfed especially in this "tac shooter". Shorty just became a "free get out" card a lot ot pros are using rn. Not just opers but almost every team is snow balling with

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butterdog_dogwithdabutter
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silver take

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butterdog_dogwithdabutter [#2]

silver take

Sliggy is also silver?

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butterdog_dogwithdabutter [#2]

silver take

Typo sorry

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CarnageBTC
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Eyck [#4]

Typo sorry

he loves the judge wdym ??

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butterdog_dogwithdabutter
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Eyck [#3]

Sliggy is also silver?

who tf is sliggy

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MrBlooBloom
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Eyck [#4]

Typo sorry

literally went to immortal by playing judge 24/7

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Ryandr
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Eyck [#4]

Typo sorry

Bruh he actually loves watching pros use shotguns.

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CarnageBTC [#5]

he loves the judge wdym ??

No he doesn't? Also im talking about shorty. Don't netf it's damage but increase it's cost, that would avoid every player have an extra get away gun.

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Ryandr [#8]

Bruh he actually loves watching pros use shotguns.

Yes because he said he wants teams to use everything to their advantage. That don't mean anything else. I think judge is fine. Idk how it got into this discussion. Im talking about shorty.

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just give the shorty a longer pullout time and the cringe is gone

still does what it needs to but you can't just bail yourself out always with a shorty

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Eyck
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butterdog_dogwithdabutter [#6]

who tf is sliggy

You are silver

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aexbigb0t
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butterdog_dogwithdabutter [#6]

who tf is sliggy

ex-TL coach and now a streamer for TL

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aexbigb0t
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Eyck [#12]

You are silver

Him not knownig Sliggy won't make him silver, chill bro

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butterdog_dogwithdabutter
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Eyck [#12]

You are silver

not watching any streamers makes me a silver nt kid

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aexbigb0t [#14]

Him not knownig Sliggy won't make him silver, chill bro

Yea but he was reasy to call me that. Hop off lil bro.

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butterdog_dogwithdabutter [#15]

not watching any streamers makes me a silver nt kid

I'm talking about pro play. If you don't watch, just play your swiftgame kid, why are ypu on vlr?

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Eyck [#17]

I'm talking about pro play. If you don't watch, just play your swiftgame kid, why are ypu on vlr?

Are you in your right mind? He can watch Pro play without watch-partystreamers, knowing streamers isn't essential wtf you on

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butterdog_dogwithdabutter
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Eyck [#17]

I'm talking about pro play. If you don't watch, just play your swiftgame kid, why are ypu on vlr?

what the fuck is this kid on about

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butterdog_dogwithdabutter [#19]

what the fuck is this kid on about

You won't get it kuddo. Keep grinding swiftplay.

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aexbigb0t [#18]

Are you in your right mind? He can watch Pro play without watch-partystreamers, knowing streamers isn't essential wtf you on

Boing boing

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butterdog_dogwithdabutter
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Eyck [#20]

You won't get it kuddo. Keep grinding swiftplay.

ofc i wouldn't get silver takes bro try. again

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midzera
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I hate when people complain about the shotguns when they do what they need to do at short range. Judge got nerfed because it was genuinely busted especially on Split. Bucky got nerfed in early Valorant because it was like a Season 0 Fortnite Pump Shotgun. Shorty does not need a nerf when it's killing people at short range. I can see a pullout time nerf just like hmazuur said, but even then, the shotguns are designed to win more at close range.

Jinggg losing 2 times in the same spot at bottom-mid on Abyss to gyen's shorty was more down to Jinggg's complacency to punish gyen's push the first time and then not learn the second time that gyen loves pulling out the shorty.

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midzera [#23]

I hate when people complain about the shotguns when they do what they need to do at short range. Judge got nerfed because it was genuinely busted especially on Split. Bucky got nerfed in early Valorant because it was like a Season 0 Fortnite Pump Shotgun. Shorty does not need a nerf when it's killing people at short range. I can see a pullout time nerf just like hmazuur said, but even then, the shotguns are designed to win more at close range.

Jinggg losing 2 times in the same spot at bottom-mid on Abyss to gyen's shorty was more down to Jinggg's complacency to punish gyen's push the first time and then not learn the second time that gyen loves pulling out the shorty.

It's not just the jingg incident. A lot of teams are buying shorties while snow balling the score. Enemy teams can tty to catch them off guard by camping or something but that doesn't work cause pros instantly whip out shorties. I don't want it's damage nerfed, only it's pullout time.

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midzera
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Eyck [#24]

It's not just the jingg incident. A lot of teams are buying shorties while snow balling the score. Enemy teams can tty to catch them off guard by camping or something but that doesn't work cause pros instantly whip out shorties. I don't want it's damage nerfed, only it's pullout time.

It's a good sidearm for short range angles and does good burst damage. The shorty has been used for years. If it's that much of an issue, you can play Vyse and then teams will feel more inclined to buy Sheriffs which is more economically expensive. In the majority of cases, the shorty seems pretty fine. If the pull out time were any slower, it'd take away from the aggressive risk taking some players make.

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midzera [#25]

It's a good sidearm for short range angles and does good burst damage. The shorty has been used for years. If it's that much of an issue, you can play Vyse and then teams will feel more inclined to buy Sheriffs which is more economically expensive. In the majority of cases, the shorty seems pretty fine. If the pull out time were any slower, it'd take away from the aggressive risk taking some players make.

Aggressive risk should be punished not rewarded

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Fendy1
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get a brain

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