Potential Coaching/Analyst help?

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GambleNats

In light of the M4 situation I have actually learned quite a lot from these coaches/analysts who talk about communication, how to present information etc.
Now Ive learnt that they often make information short and sweet, so I was wondering if there was anything that I could improve on with my own team. Because although my information isnt 100 pages long for a single map, it is certainly quite a lot and since I am NOT a coach/analyst and have 0 clue how to actually do the job any advice is appreciated. Even if you are not an official coach or analyst but believe that you have a good idea to help me out in future it would be awesome if you left a comment!

and dw I wont reject it and splatter your win-loss record :D
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8VmLzdJkax5IMoViP2OsVOVPIoJ3SjI1PgCfuNOqQY/edit?usp=sharing
just note this doc is edited so I dont reveal anything personal, and that the antistrats are outdated because we arent facing this team anymore. This is just an example on how I did it

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NerfMaxima

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idk bro im plat, but cool auramancer image

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localkoolkid

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where are the map locations?

Also u a bitch for that photo, im fucking FUCKING pissed!

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GambleNats

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mb bro, I forgot to add that icebox was in the bennett islands

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localkoolkid

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rookie error, be better man

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mCe

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Oh no. I'm not getting tricked again. Nice try buddy.

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GambleNats

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but im actually serious I promise 😔 Pinky swear

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xD

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localkoolkid

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I would upvote your post, but unfortunately you have a low win rate, sorry mCe :(

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Aayan

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I can vouch for GambleNats they are chill

But maybe im tricking you so who knows

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GambleNats

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thanks man :D

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thanks for saving me from the burning building the last week!

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GambleNats

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no problem I was on the way to donate to charity anyways ;)

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I can't believe it was you who got Sentinels, Gambit, EG, Geng, Edg, Fnatic, Loud, Optic, and Acend their title wins

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VacuousViper

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Its crazy that M4 scammed gamblenats out of help

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cameran

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Pretty good

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GambleNats

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well at least im not a complete failure

thanks for the input

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Gemiknight

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this is so much easier to read and understand than the other one. very nice 👍

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GambleNats

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thanks you for the input :)

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NerfMaxima

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oh btw what do the map colours mean

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GambleNats

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Oh great question, shoulda explained this. so basically the order of the maps, is the comfortability of us on said map. so Lotus best map, pearl worst map.

The colours is the likelyhood of the other team picking the map (this is the grand finals and they get 2 map bans and a pick) so since they always pick pearl, pearl is green (100%), yellow means they have played the map before, so some comfortability that they didnt atleast ban it (we cant see bans) and the orange maps are maps they havent played on stream

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NerfMaxima

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and do you play every map or???

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GambleNats

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well kinda? its like a normal series but all maps are at play so normally it would be:

Team A ban, Team B ban, Team A pick, Team B pick, Team A ban, Team B ban, Team A pick.
then the rest of the maps are void

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NerfMaxima

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oh that makes sense

#22

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mCe giving free advice to m4 and then passing on this person is a great representation of society

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GambleNats

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nah its all chill, im sure he is busy after dealing with a 100 page document LOL

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StalwartTiger_35

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i meant to criticize the m4's of the world, not the goat

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NerfMaxima

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the m4's of the world is wild

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NerfMaxima

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One thing I did actually notice is the lack of plans with ult. there are many ult combinations that straight up win rounds, you have 1 for ascent but thats it. Also since you dont actually have a professional team, I really like the postplant idea you did for ascent, but I wish you did it for pearl too

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GambleNats

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Oh shit yeah, i completely forgot to do ult combos, probably needed to watch more vods for that, thanks for the input

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saebr

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So what was the result of the match?

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GambleNats

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they forfeited... which is why it ends off at Split, so yes I did all this for nothing

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229fn

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Where is Split IRL though, maybe they wouldn't have FF'd if they knew

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had they known "Within the Shinjuku district of Japan's capital, Tokyo, a split has emerged between two groups. On one side, Kingdom Corporation continues its developments in the area, building plazas alongside its offices and shops there, and all overlooked by its humongous HQ situated further north, towering into the city skyline." they wouldve played it out for sure

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GambleNats

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https://www.vlr.gg/439046/split/#3

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saebr

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So... how much money did you get + why did they forfeit

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GambleNats

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prize pool was 200.

the main players get 80%
the subs + coaches get 20%

So I got 12 dollars 👍

oh yeah they FF'd cuz they couldnt find a date to play

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saebr

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Damn thats a lot of work for $12. Guess you also have the incentive of making a youtube video. Looks kind of fun though so I understand. Too bad I never have enough friends into valorant to set this up. And they'd probably need me on the frontlines anyway, heh :sigma:

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GambleNats

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I was mainly in it for the video and my friends, I didnt even think I was getting money in the first place lol. anyways hope you can experience something similar because it was actually really fun to do this and watch the team pull off the strats you made live

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First. It's good to have 1000 pages of analysis as long as it makes your team win.

Second. Your page literally does not look like analysis at all.

third. the analyst's job is assisting the coach, so you must have communication capabilities to make the coach really feel helped by you.

Fourth. nothing instant and easy, so don't expect much.

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GambleNats

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Second. Your page literally does not look like analysis at all.

hmmm, looks like I need to improve upon that then, can you point out why its not analysis and provide how it should actually look? im just a rookie at this so im not quite too sure how it should be

Fourth. nothing instant and easy, so don't expect much.

Are you saying here that learning to be better is not quick and easy?

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NerfMaxima

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First. It's good to have 1000 pages of analysis as long as it makes your team win.

no its not bro? no one ever. and I mean it, no one ever in a professional or unprofessional environment will EVER, EVER read a 1000 page document of analysis for a single match. Part of the job is condensing and summarising the information. having 1000 pages means you failed at it

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TheOnion

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I don’t know, but I believe in you gamblenats.

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GambleNats

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thanks TheOnion, idk what you are doing in life but I believe in you too

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TheOnion

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Thanks, I’m in health and social care classes currently MrGamble. 😄

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Tempest24

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Would you like to work at 100T coaching staff?

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GambleNats

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im gonna leave it to the real professionals, someone like me doesnt know how many sites haven has

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Tempest24

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Do you atleast know where icebox is located smh

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GambleNats

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oh this is a tough one... is it the bunt islands??

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nice job. maybe add in a couple of strats, like hyperlinks to certain rounds? idk how you would exactly go about it but a lot of prep is building off of what is already available. i saw you cited what teams you took inspiration from so im sure theres a couple good examples. again overall nice and concise

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GambleNats

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sorry but im not too sure what you mean? what does "maybe add in a couple of strats, like hyperlinks to certain rounds?" is hyperlinks like just a link?

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cloudberry

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A hyperlink is a link. I think he means linking timestamps of relevant rounds in VODs

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GambleNats

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ahh kk, thanks for the explanation

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GambleNats

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great advice, I will put some in next time, thank you!

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Wezzaa

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very cool man!

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is that another nova believer I see

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SWERL IS THE GOAT

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personally after looking through split i think the attack could be improved like sure you tell me how the enemy likes to approach the map but personally i think it would be a lot better if you could spot little clues to where they might be going, like a cypher cam position swap or sova early drone = b split, small little details like that would be a lot better imo

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GambleNats

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Yeah no I totally agree with you. Even when making it I felt i was doing too much of "the enemy do this" and literally show what they do each time. Knowing how the enemy start a round on what they wanna do is 100% better. I cant believe I missed this

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In terms of presentation its pretty good and pretty standard. The actual strats I haven't paid attention to. If you want you can DM me on discord at dollarxcade and I can provide you with some resources from my coaching experiences and managing an immortal+ team

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yeah that would be great