3

A Pro and Con of Every Team

Comments:
Threaded Linear
#1
Wunkey

Drop your teams below and I'll reply!

I'll start for DRX.

Pro: We currently have our strongest roster ever, in terms of firepower.
Con: Serial bottlers who always fold in the pressure...

#2
Aayan
3
Frags
+

Fnatic

#3
GlitchGull
0
Frags
+

Gen.G

#4
Wunkey
11
Frags
+
Aayan [#2]

Fnatic

Pro: Greatest team of all time.
Con: You lost to BBL to start 2025.

#5
LakiaOfValorant
0
Frags
+

Since someone said Gen G already, EDG

#6
smthlikeyou11
0
Frags
+

prx

#7
Wunkey
5
Frags
+
GlitchGull [#3]

Gen.G

Pro: You won Pacific's first international event.
Con: In doing so, however, I'm slightly upset that you took the Korean crown from DRX.

#8
thatpower
0
Frags
+

imo drx 2024 had the best firepower but i didn't really watch the new iteration play

#9
SOURVLRT
0
Frags
+

GE

#10
Wunkey
7
Frags
+
LakiaOfValorant [#5]

Since someone said Gen G already, EDG

Pro: EDG won the most competitive VCT international event of all time.
Con: In doing so, however, Korea didn't get to lift the trophy on their own soil in Seoul.

#11
GlitchGull
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#7]

Pro: You won Pacific's first international event.
Con: In doing so, however, I'm slightly upset that you took the Korean crown from DRX.

Lmaooo💀

#12
vollizie
0
Frags
+

G2

#13
glittering_yard
0
Frags
+

MIBR

#14
Wunkey
4
Frags
+
smthlikeyou11 [#6]

prx

Pro: I like Jinggg and I'm sure he'll prove everyone wrong, especially with this new PRX transformation.
Con: Quite possibly the worst fanbase in all of VCT.

#15
Wunkey
4
Frags
+
thatpower [#8]

imo drx 2024 had the best firepower but i didn't really watch the new iteration play

MaKo, Flashback, and HYUNMIN all have insane aim. Although I love BuZz, HYUNMIN feels like an upgrade in terms of pure mechanics. Foxy9 was great at times but inconsistent.

#16
Wunkey
7
Frags
+
SOURVLRT [#9]

GE

Pro: Indians are cool and I'm glad there is a team to represent them.
Con: That team is GE...

#17
Cryptic88
-3
Frags
+
Wunkey [#14]

Pro: I like Jinggg and I'm sure he'll prove everyone wrong, especially with this new PRX transformation.
Con: Quite possibly the worst fanbase in all of VCT.

You forgot about sen. Sg prx fans are normal.

#18
LakiaOfValorant
1
Frags
+
Wunkey [#14]

Pro: I like Jinggg and I'm sure he'll prove everyone wrong, especially with this new PRX transformation.
Con: Quite possibly the worst fanbase in all of VCT.

i'll add that they do seem to be a little more disciplined than they used to be while keeping their style, i'm not sure that'll be enough but i have more hope than last year for PRX.

#19
Cryptic88
0
Frags
+

Nrg

#20
Inkdud
0
Frags
+

MxS

#21
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
vollizie [#12]

G2

Pro: Amazing management and I have you as the team to win Americas Kickoff.
Con: You kept ruining my 2024 Pick'ems by being fraudulent at times.

#22
Aayan
2
Frags
+
Wunkey [#4]

Pro: Greatest team of all time.
Con: You lost to BBL to start 2025.

the contrast is crazy 🙏😭

#23
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
Cryptic88 [#17]

You forgot about sen. Sg prx fans are normal.

I like PRX as our little brother team but the way their fanbase handled the Flashback drama really pissed me off...

#24
Wunkey
2
Frags
+
glittering_yard [#13]

MIBR

Pro: You have aspas.
Con: He'll be knocked out of Americas Kickoff with the rest of MIBR in just a few days, unfortunately.

#25
trikecycle
2
Frags
+

Wolves

Pro: We currently have our strongest roster ever, in terms of firepower.
Con: Serial bottlers who always fold in the pressure...

#26
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
Cryptic88 [#19]

Nrg

Pro: One of the most talented, most promising rosters in the world.
Con: It's being led by FNS, who I have slandered for years and will not be hearing him out.

#27
Wall_Bug
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#16]

Pro: Indians are cool and I'm glad there is a team to represent them.
Con: That team is GE...

Thats f'ed up 🤣

#28
cameran
0
Frags
+

sen

#29
Cryptic88
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#23]

I like PRX as our little brother team but the way their fanbase handled the Flashback drama really pissed me off...

I dont have twitter so i dont really know about prx fan response but i think everyone should have just respected his privacy and let him figure his own situation out

#30
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
Inkdud [#20]

MxS

Pro: I like their logo.
Con: Are they even active anymore?

#31
glittering_yard
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#24]

Pro: You have aspas.
Con: He'll be knocked out of Americas Kickoff with the rest of MIBR in just a few days, unfortunately.

atleast we have aspas 😌

#32
LakiaOfValorant
0
Frags
+
trikecycle [#25]

Wolves

Pro: We currently have our strongest roster ever, in terms of firepower.
Con: Serial bottlers who always fold in the pressure...

that split was sad to watch

#33
Cryptic88
3
Frags
+
trikecycle [#25]

Wolves

Pro: We currently have our strongest roster ever, in terms of firepower.
Con: Serial bottlers who always fold in the pressure...

Con: tmv tricked me into thinking wolves was good and i have gotten everything other than the wolves matches right in my pickems

#34
Wunkey
5
Frags
+
trikecycle [#25]

Wolves

Pro: We currently have our strongest roster ever, in terms of firepower.
Con: Serial bottlers who always fold in the pressure...

Pro: Their football team has Hwang Hee-chan.
Con: In a relegation battle...

#35
reaper_rega08
-4
Frags
+
Wunkey [#7]

Pro: You won Pacific's first international event.
Con: In doing so, however, I'm slightly upset that you took the Korean crown from DRX.

GenG Con : You lost to Sen when it mattered the most.

#36
Cryptic88
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#30]

Pro: I like their logo.
Con: Are they even active anymore?

I think they got absorbed into sr

#37
SOURVLRT
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#16]

Pro: Indians are cool and I'm glad there is a team to represent them.
Con: That team is GE...

if drx loses to GE, you better drop that flair

#38
Wunkey
7
Frags
+
cameran [#28]

sen

Pro: You win trophies.
Con: You'll get cyberbullied by the fanbase if you mention SEN 22 - 23...

#39
Wunkey
4
Frags
+
Cryptic88 [#36]

I think they got absorbed into sr

Pro: Their Game Changers squad is good.
Con: Their main team is led by a fried chicken shop, BcJ.

#40
Wunkey
3
Frags
+
SOURVLRT [#37]

if drx loses to GE, you better drop that flair

Hey, I really do think GE have a good shot at beating TLN. However, GE will likely never meet DRX in Kickoff...

#41
Prathades
0
Frags
+

Pro: We currently have our strongest roster ever, in terms of firepower.

Almost every team right now

#42
Disastered
0
Frags
+

team secret

#43
Wunkey
0
Frags
+
Cryptic88 [#29]

I dont have twitter so i dont really know about prx fan response but i think everyone should have just respected his privacy and let him figure his own situation out

I think it is a bit of a stretch to say those reactions came from DRX reverse sweeping PRX. However, it really seemed like many people were unnecessarily and irrationally trying to force the situation without conclusive evidence.

#44
vanssr
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#23]

I like PRX as our little brother team but the way their fanbase handled the Flashback drama really pissed me off...

What this about flashback drama I just heard it rn, I am prx fans, can you tell me?

#45
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
Prathades [#41]

Pro: We currently have our strongest roster ever, in terms of firepower.

Almost every team right now

Fair enough. However, I do think we have one of the more mechanically gifted teams. Really promising side.

#46
LakiaOfValorant
3
Frags
+
cameran [#28]

sen

Pro : They are good at learning from their mistakes fast ( I.E MASSIVE loss against GEN G in madrid before playing them again in grand finals and winning)

Con : The fandom is insufferable (and slightly off topic, that new jersey is horrid)

#47
Cryptic88
0
Frags
+
vanssr [#44]

What this about flashback drama I just heard it rn, I am prx fans, can you tell me?

He basically had sex with an underage girl when he was also underage if im not wrong

#48
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
Disastered [#42]

team secret

Pro: Filipinos are cool and I'm glad there is a team to represent them.
Con: I'm sorry but I genuinely believe TS may be close to the weakest Pacific team on paper.

#49
Disastered
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#48]

Pro: Filipinos are cool and I'm glad there is a team to represent them.
Con: I'm sorry but I genuinely believe TS may be close to the weakest Pacific team on paper.

ill keep dreaming

#50
putan
0
Frags
+

DFM

#51
highlyte
0
Frags
+

ZETA

#52
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
vanssr [#44]

What this about flashback drama I just heard it rn, I am prx fans, can you tell me?

There were accusations against Flashback, a few days before Champions Seoul 2024 started. While the situation was being professionally handled, many PRX fans took to social media to express their incredibly biased opinions. They slandered Flashback and called for him to be immediately removed from the team. Later, his name was cleared.

Some speculated that these reactions occurred due to DRX reverse sweeping PRX or because they wanted DRX to be weak immediately before an international event. While I do believe that these are a stretch, it still really hit me. The fanbase of the team that DRX considers brothers turned on us so quickly.

#53
mustafais
0
Frags
+

Heretics. Unfortunately we all know what the con is

#54
Wunkey
4
Frags
+
putan [#50]

DFM

Pro: I predicted you to do well in Pacific Kickoff.
Con: I didn't expect you to lose to RRQ immediately, though...

#55
Wunkey
2
Frags
+
highlyte [#51]

ZETA

Pro: Masters Reykjavík 2022 was a miraculous run.
Con: However, I still have war flashbacks... It should've been us... How did you beat us...?

#56
cameran
1
Frags
+
Wunkey [#38]

Pro: You win trophies.
Con: You'll get cyberbullied by the fanbase if you mention SEN 22 - 23...

now that con is actually the most accurate one ive seen

#57
eLxR
0
Frags
+

GE

#58
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
mustafais [#53]

Heretics. Unfortunately we all know what the con is

Pro: Undeniably amazing squad.
Con: You denied Korean fans the opportunity to see DRX on the big stage at Champions Seoul 2024...

#59
Wunkey
2
Frags
+
mustafais [#53]

Heretics. Unfortunately we all know what the con is

Don't worry, I picked a different con.

#60
mustafais
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#58]

Pro: Undeniably amazing squad.
Con: You denied Korean fans the opportunity to see DRX on the big stage at Champions Seoul 2024...

👌

#61
ButterflyEffect23
1
Frags
+

T1

#62
kfan4238173
0
Frags
+
mustafais [#53]

Heretics. Unfortunately we all know what the con is

Pro: young players who haven’t peaked
Con: you employ b00b and all your players suck and your org is shit and u have no fans and your branding sucks and I hate your team :P and you’re chokers who will never lift a trophy

#63
LakiaOfValorant
0
Frags
+
mustafais [#53]

Heretics. Unfortunately we all know what the con is

Pro : Really good players

Con : They don't do well under pressure and seem to consistently lose their composure when they're close to winning.

I hope they will win something this year, i think they might benefit from working on their mental even more than working on their gameplay.

#64
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
mustafais [#60]

👌

You thought you could get away with it? Win a trophy, mate.

#65
Wunkey
4
Frags
+
ButterflyEffect23 [#61]

T1

Pro: Better roster on paper than DRX.
Con: Better roster on paper than DRX.

#66
Wall_Bug
0
Frags
+
mustafais [#60]

👌

😆

No one can know the con if you don't say it huh

#67
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
Wall_Bug [#66]

😆

No one can know the con if you don't say it huh

Everyone knows...

#68
Pmka1
0
Frags
+

Nongshim

#69
LakiaOfValorant
1
Frags
+
putan [#50]

DFM

Pro : Meyi

Con : That roster is still relatively young, i think they haven't found their footing quite yet. We could see something better from them in the future.

#70
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
Pmka1 [#68]

Nongshim

Pro: They're the start to a Korean revolution. We'll consistently win Ascension and create a league separated from Pacific, like China.
Con: You may cook DRX momentarily and I'm nervous.

#71
LakiaOfValorant
0
Frags
+
Pmka1 [#68]

Nongshim

Pro : Expected nothing amazing, was pleasantly surprised, they look promising.

Con : I haven't seen enough of them yet to get a clear picture of where they stand against the rest of Pacific, so i can't give cons as of right now.

#72
merciless-pity8989-89
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#15]

MaKo, Flashback, and HYUNMIN all have insane aim. Although I love BuZz, HYUNMIN feels like an upgrade in terms of pure mechanics. Foxy9 was great at times but inconsistent.

free1ng was a top 2 player in kr challengers as well

#73
Zakariya
0
Frags
+

LOUD

#74
Wall_Bug
0
Frags
+

100T

#75
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
merciless-pity8989-89 [#72]

free1ng was a top 2 player in kr challengers as well

You're right, he definitely deserves to be mentioned. He was by far the best player in China Ascension last year, too. You would never expect a non-duelist to drop the same numbers as free1ng.

#76
LakiaOfValorant
1
Frags
+
Wall_Bug [#74]

100T

Pro : Team looks pretty good so far this year

Con : Personal opinion, but i cannot stand boostio.

#77
Wunkey
2
Frags
+
Zakariya [#73]

LOUD

Pro: You have already exceeded my expectations by beating EG.
Con: Unfortunately, your bottling of LOCK//IN São Paulo 2023 will continue to haunt you.

#78
n1cf
0
Frags
+

FUT, their highs is high as fuck but their lows...

#79
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
Wall_Bug [#74]

100T

Pro: Congratulations, you will not be heading out of Americas Kickoff early. Lucky to be facing off against a senior citizen.
Con: SEN own you and you'll be reminded of it even just a day after another defeat to them.

#80
afreespirit
1
Frags
+

Talon
PROmmie
Con: everything else (including coach)

#81
Cryptic88
0
Frags
+
n1cf [#78]

FUT, their highs is high as fuck but their lows...

Dont worry cb00b isnt there anymore

#82
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
n1cf [#78]

FUT, their highs is high as fuck but their lows...

Pro: I like Türkiye.
Con: Worst Tier 1 team from Türkiye now, unfortunately.

#83
z12
-1
Frags
+
Wunkey [#65]

Pro: Better roster on paper than DRX.
Con: Better roster on paper than DRX.

I would pay money to not see this take again

#84
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
afreespirit [#80]

Talon
PROmmie
Con: everything else (including coach)

Pro: Cooked DRX during off season.
Con: Cooked DRX during off season.

#85
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
z12 [#83]

I would pay money to not see this take again

Don't worry, I actually think DRX are better on paper than T1. I was just appeasing to the masses by being attempting to be humorous.

#86
AstaR0th
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#43]

I think it is a bit of a stretch to say those reactions came from DRX reverse sweeping PRX. However, it really seemed like many people were unnecessarily and irrationally trying to force the situation without conclusive evidence.

auntymarrie those who know

#87
Wunkey
2
Frags
+
AstaR0th [#86]

auntymarrie those who know

Those Twitter fangirls scare me...

#88
z12
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#85]

Don't worry, I actually think DRX are better on paper than T1. I was just appeasing to the masses by being attempting to be humorous.

today is gonna be so hype 😭

#89
LakiaOfValorant
0
Frags
+

No one said it and i'm curious so, RRQ?

#90
Wunkey
3
Frags
+
LakiaOfValorant [#89]

No one said it and i'm curious so, RRQ?

Pro: Jemkin discovered steroids.
Con: I don't think he's shared them with the rest of the team just yet.

#91
bees
0
Frags
+

Karmine Corp!

#92
zappp
0
Frags
+

c9

#93
Wunkey
2
Frags
+
bees [#91]

Karmine Corp!

Pro: I once had a friend named Karmine.
Con: We are no longer friends.

#94
Wunkey
3
Frags
+
zappp [#92]

c9

Pro: I never doubted your win against NRG.
Con: I never doubted your loss against G2.

#95
Gemiknight
0
Frags
+

since g2 is taken. what about EG?

#96
Wunkey
2
Frags
+
Gemiknight [#95]

since g2 is taken. what about EG?

Pro: You won Champions Los Angeles 2023.
Con: At that very event, I still remember how DRX lost to EG. I was so determined to prove everyone wrong by saying that DRX are the best Fracture team in the world. However, the game was so chaotic. I swear I had nightmares of us getting knifed, jawgemo double satcheling and literally one tapping players while midair, and the times when we got spammed through smokes.

#97
Gemiknight
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#96]

Pro: You won Champions Los Angeles 2023.
Con: At that very event, I still remember how DRX lost to EG. I was so determined to prove everyone wrong by saying that DRX are the best Fracture team in the world. However, the game was so chaotic. I swear I had nightmares of us getting knifed, jawgemo double satcheling and literally one tapping players while midair, and the times when we got spammed through smokes.

man i remember that knife. me and my friends lost our shit when we saw it lmao.

#98
yellow_donkey
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#70]

Pro: They're the start to a Korean revolution. We'll consistently win Ascension and create a league separated from Pacific, like China.
Con: You may cook DRX momentarily and I'm nervous.

create a league separated from Pacific, like China

sorry to pop your bubble but its not as easy as it sounds.

#99
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
yellow_donkey [#98]

create a league separated from Pacific, like China

sorry to pop your bubble but its not as easy as it sounds.

Don‘t worry I’m not actually that delusional…

#100
z12
0
Frags
+

what are your thoughts on trace(🐐 ) esports?

#101
Wunkey
1
Frags
+
z12 [#100]

what are your thoughts on trace(🐐 ) esports?

Pro: Historical Champions Seoul 2024 run.
Con: You cooked DRX during off season.

#102
yayvsboaster
0
Frags
+
Wunkey [#40]

Hey, I really do think GE have a good shot at beating TLN. However, GE will likely never meet DRX in Kickoff...

nice ans

#103
elament
0
Frags
+

dragon ranger gaming

#104
geospliced
0
Frags
+
trikecycle [#25]

Wolves

Pro: We currently have our strongest roster ever, in terms of firepower.
Con: Serial bottlers who always fold in the pressure...

Ruined my pick'ems https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/1c4063af

#105
4ch1p4p4
0
Frags
+
Aayan [#22]

the contrast is crazy 🙏😭

The fall of 😔

#106
Layne
0
Frags
+

Lev

#107
Modern575
1
Frags
+

TL

#108
Terpischora
0
Frags
+

VITALITY

  • Preview
  • Edit
› check that that your post follows the forum rules and guidelines or get formatting help
Sign up or log in to post a comment