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What the fuck, actual good Lothar take?

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#1
Denjisideals

"You wanna hear something funny?
In patch 9.10, at Immortal+ level, Phantom had a 9.36% pickrate.

In patch 9.11, Phantom GOT PUSHED to insane levels and you know whats the pickrate at Imm+ now?
8.64%

This lack of critical thinking and stubbornes from players is what makes riot make those WILD BALANCE CHANGES. Because even if they do something outrageous people might not use it.
Iso, Neon, Phoenix were all already playable but got PUSHED to ''overpowered'' territory because valorant players wont recognise whats good unless its shoved into their faces and they are force fed like a duck.

Incredible stuff, really."

https://x.com/LotharHS/status/1867588613157888498?t=kFDcPXZ1dub9gbLtqL8AUQ&s=19

Honestly, true. Valorant players would rather leave the game than try something out of their favourite agents even if the other agents are good. How many times has Raze been nerfed and how many times has Yoru been buffed. Yet, we are still stuck with Raze Jett because no one likes to try actual meta agents or actually experiment with shit, until the thing is a fucking God.

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uwukitten
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yeah I still see a lot of neons in ranked despite the nerfs and they perform quite well
phoenix gets played plenty in ranked
yoru takes too much thinking/learning for most people to use him, he's a niche agent

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Aayan
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tbf its human nature to want to stick to what you're comfortable with
even if its at a slight detriment

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c4rrotstix
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Aayan [#3]

tbf its human nature to want to stick to what you're comfortable with
even if its at a slight detriment

Literally harbor and viper in 2023 after the nerfs

Teams don't want to create new strategies that will be more optimal because of the time sink so they use unoptimized strategies because they have experience on them

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foythvlr
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most changes are for proplay. average val player dont care much about game changes. actually, a part of them dont like the game at all tbh

#6
jawn
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this might just be a problem that comes from VCT scheduling, teams don’t have enough tournaments and/or games to truly experiment and innovate on the game so a lot of the time they just play safe shit and try to polish it or just wait until tier 2 has polished a new meta comp

and since the ranked meta is usually formed by trickled down tech from pro valorant it kinda reflects it

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shzuo
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The patch are usually focused on pro play.

#8
BEHEMOTH
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Blud said good Lothar take as if Lothar mostly doesn't give good takes, he has an aggressive nature which might come off as toxic to a lot of people but his in-game depth knowledge is incredible. Sadly the Valorant community is so dogshit that they find these passive-aggressive pros/streamers/analysts who put up a 'nice-guy' act, more enjoyable and likable than Lothar who actually acts like himself. He might come off as a dick but I rather have people like him who know their shit than some dumbass posers with no talent.

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BEHEMOTH [#8]

Blud said good Lothar take as if Lothar mostly doesn't give good takes, he has an aggressive nature which might come off as toxic to a lot of people but his in-game depth knowledge is incredible. Sadly the Valorant community is so dogshit that they find these passive-aggressive pros/streamers/analysts who put up a 'nice-guy' act, more enjoyable and likable than Lothar who actually acts like himself. He might come off as a dick but I rather have people like him who know their shit than some dumbass posers with no talent.

knows their shit? hes known ranked terrorist in ascendant

he is talentless when it comes to valorant

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Denjisideals
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BEHEMOTH [#8]

Blud said good Lothar take as if Lothar mostly doesn't give good takes, he has an aggressive nature which might come off as toxic to a lot of people but his in-game depth knowledge is incredible. Sadly the Valorant community is so dogshit that they find these passive-aggressive pros/streamers/analysts who put up a 'nice-guy' act, more enjoyable and likable than Lothar who actually acts like himself. He might come off as a dick but I rather have people like him who know their shit than some dumbass posers with no talent.

Lothar cried like a child when G2 jumped off the cliff in Abyss
Is it not a strategy to deny opponents the alts
Also he isn't aggressive
He types out without thinking most of the time, deadass

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Denjisideals
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foythvlr [#5]

most changes are for proplay. average val player dont care much about game changes. actually, a part of them dont like the game at all tbh

No no
Valorant players here I meant the pros only
Reyna is played in Ranked so

#12
Chow1E
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tbh its harder to learn agent that you don't like, I remember one tricking sova and cypher, I did try like many times raze in tdm and swiftplay but I'm still pick either sova or cypher

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Denjisideals [#11]

No no
Valorant players here I meant the pros only
Reyna is played in Ranked so

then its just plainly wrong lol phantom didn't got pushed by "insane levels" by any means and is less used in ranked because vandal is objectively better there since you don't have to think much about strategical use of rifles

iso wasn't viable at all on pro play till he got buffed and it still is a bit of a troll pick, neon and phoenix were used as wildcards sometimes before buffs (2023 fracture and lotus on some teams and 2024 loud comps are examples), but jett and raze were (and still are) the superior duelists for coordinated teamplay in most maps

riot changes the meta to try to not make the game too repetitive but theres no way to downplay jett and raze because they're simply the best duelists by default

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chrlxz [#9]

knows their shit? hes known ranked terrorist in ascendant

he is talentless when it comes to valorant

I said his knowledge of the game is incredible. I don't care how much of a elo terrorist he is, if you've ever seen any of his post-game or mid-game analysis, you'll realize that he is very good. The same goes for Sean Gares.

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Denjisideals [#10]

Lothar cried like a child when G2 jumped off the cliff in Abyss
Is it not a strategy to deny opponents the alts
Also he isn't aggressive
He types out without thinking most of the time, deadass

You can only remember that one tweet that got attention for the wrong reason, I am not surprised. I rather judge someone when they are doing their job than judge them for what they tweet out on their social media.

And I say this coz JoshRT( G2's coach) actually clarified the Abyss jump-off incident and he began it by saying that he got that idea from Lothar lmaoo

You guys are on the internet, so it is always better to get the full context of things before we react especially since most of it is available easily to us, just coz someone is getting downvoted or disliked on their socials doesn't mean they are wrong especially when its twitter where all people do is engagement bait

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Blue_Iced_Tea
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c4rrotstix [#4]

Literally harbor and viper in 2023 after the nerfs

Teams don't want to create new strategies that will be more optimal because of the time sink so they use unoptimized strategies because they have experience on them

But that still gets wins (looking at you, rankers)

#17
CarnageBTC
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yeah same case with the odin ... most broken gun in the game but might be one of the lowest used guns in the game, why will riot nerf that ?

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hdeqth
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BEHEMOTH [#15]

You can only remember that one tweet that got attention for the wrong reason, I am not surprised. I rather judge someone when they are doing their job than judge them for what they tweet out on their social media.

And I say this coz JoshRT( G2's coach) actually clarified the Abyss jump-off incident and he began it by saying that he got that idea from Lothar lmaoo

You guys are on the internet, so it is always better to get the full context of things before we react especially since most of it is available easily to us, just coz someone is getting downvoted or disliked on their socials doesn't mean they are wrong especially when its twitter where all people do is engagement bait

get bros meat out of your mouth, you're practically doing tricks on it

#19
x_knowitall39_x
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“ Valorant players would rather leave the game than try something out of their favourite agents even if the other agents are good.”

It’s fucking ranked why the fuck would I stop playing the agents I like cause some theorycrafter with no real presence in the scene anymore says that X is theoretically better in a perfectly coordinated team, which you won’t find in ranked.

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