VIT is not a superteam

Only in my personal humble opinion, Im kinda a hater for VIT but that is unrelated and my opinion is not biased at all
A superteam in my opinion, is a team that all the players are the best at their roles and all achieved something in their respective position. This was inspired by FNSs stream when he was watching NRG 24, everyone on NRG made at least 1 LAN in their career, won one LAN and are considered the best at their role in some point of their career.
But looking at VIT 25 I would have to disagree because I am a retard

Kicks is no where near the best at his role (He is prob going to play flash initiator), i dont want to shit on the kid bc he clearly has potential
Sayf is a great DUELIST, his flex was looking good only because Vitality in kickoff and early stage 1 looked mid (Maybe i am wrong). He is most likely going to play smokes and IGL at the same time and we saw what happened when a cracked duelist decided to become an IGL for a team
Derke and Less are undebatable the goat at their roles, maybe they had their downfall a little bit in 2024 but they are still very good players
Trexx is good he hasn't find much success in his career (I would blame on his team but he is clearly very talented)

I dont know how well Faded is going to cook but i would assume that he wouldnt be as good as gorillas coaching (From their past results)
Just saying also Allat just for VIT to win champs 2025 at their homeground

kicks is going to be a util + entry dummy when he has no util

perfect system

for vit to be good sayf has to call decently and kicks just has to play decently(like a 0.85 average rating) for them to qual for a lan

superteams arent about being the best in your position at all, alfa wasnt even a top sentinel yet when people considered fnc a superteam

DownLoad_AimLabs [#3]

for vit to be good sayf has to call decently and kicks just has to play decently(like a 0.85 average rating) for them to qual for a lan

Terrible example but NRG kickoff crashies was like 0.85 avg rating kinda thing and ethan was calling pretty decently

koromast [#4]

superteams arent about being the best in your position at all, alfa wasnt even a top sentinel yet when people considered fnc a superteam

Maybe im wrong but thats what i learnt from FNS plus i dont think kicks nor sayf would become the best at their roles

kanyefan4238173 [#2]

kicks is going to be a util + entry dummy when he has no util

perfect system

Get ready for champs winner kicks bud

H3ENnZ [#6]

Maybe im wrong but thats what i learnt from FNS plus i dont think kicks nor sayf would become the best at their roles

kicks was the 2nd best of vit on champs i think people is understimating him a lot, and sayf doesnt need to be the best igl cuz all his teammates have a shit ton of experience on their own anyway so they can just rely on what their coach tells them to do, now the problem is i dont think their coach is going to know how to handle that much egos, i wouldve preferred erik (doombros)

H3ENnZ [#5]

Terrible example but NRG kickoff crashies was like 0.85 avg rating kinda thing and ethan was calling pretty decently

yes but less hard clears victor and derke is more flexible than demon1, plus vit have a better head coach

koromast [#8]

kicks was the 2nd best of vit on champs i think people is understimating him a lot, and sayf doesnt need to be the best igl cuz all his teammates have a shit ton of experience on their own anyway so they can just rely on what their coach tells them to do, now the problem is i dont think their coach is going to know how to handle that much egos, i wouldve preferred erik (doombros)

I agree with ur take but kicks didnt have the best 2024 season overall especially in the regular seasons

DownLoad_AimLabs [#9]

yes but less hard clears victor and derke is more flexible than demon1, plus vit have a better head coach

I doubt that faded will be better than chet overall as a coach but ur right Chet made some horrible decisions

koromast [#4]

superteams arent about being the best in your position at all, alfa wasnt even a top sentinel yet when people considered fnc a superteam

But they became one at lock it when they won it, not exactly before.

So, according to FNS, Fnatic in 2023 wasn’t a superteam

who thinks VIT is a superteam?
sorry but a team with k0cks isn't going anywhere

H3ENnZ [#5]

Terrible example but NRG kickoff crashies was like 0.85 avg rating kinda thing and ethan was calling pretty decently

ethans IGLing was ASS. they were lost most of the time when playing against good teams. there was a reason why they went 8x26 against lev

dont get me wrong, I love ethan and hes an insane initiator + mid rounder but he is not fit to play the IGL role.

H3ENnZ [#10]

I agree with ur take but kicks didnt have the best 2024 season overall especially in the regular seasons

he was good towards the end which is the most recent so i think its ok to give him more chances

Superteam's definition is just based on your own opinion so it's just about what you consider makes a superteam
But yeah Kicks definitely makes this not a superteam for me

Level [#13]

So, according to FNS, Fnatic in 2023 wasn’t a superteam

Boaster chron and derke are all experienced veterans with their mark left on the international stage
Leo and alfajer on the other hand were some of the best upcoming talents in EMEA and looks promising

Clucker [#12]

But they became one at lock it when they won it, not exactly before.

nah people saw derke leo and chronicle on the same team and said super team

Kicks gonna threw all of his utility to help their teammates on point

vitality is going to be a 2025 nrg watch lol

sexocum [#21]

vitality is going to be a 2025 nrg watch lol

I wouldnt be surprised

masterX [#20]

Kicks gonna threw all of his utility to help their teammates on point

I do hope so

sexocum [#21]

vitality is going to be a 2025 nrg watch lol

Nrg didnt have Less

koromast [#19]

nah people saw derke leo and chronicle on the same team and said super team

People say things, lock in proved it

on frost and babybay's podcast frost was saying the same thing a couple weeks ago

sexocum [#21]

vitality is going to be a 2025 nrg watch lol

this team doesnt have off roles tho, nrg was like a fucking puzzle of who plays which agent on which map but on this team its easier to figure out and build different comps on a single map instead of being forced to play a specific comp all the time

H3ENnZ [#5]

Terrible example but NRG kickoff crashies was like 0.85 avg rating kinda thing and ethan was calling pretty decently

ethan calling was terrible and also even comparing anything to nrg should be a crime that team had so many internal issues that it isnt even worth looking at

Watch this team fold, they don't have a proper IGL and are taking a gamble on Sayf as the IGL, we've seen this before you know... (cough cough NRG)
It's not about just putting all the strongest pieces in one team, there must be a presence of a good leader who they can rely on in tough situations, and Vitality doesn't have that.

Every team with Derke is NOT a superteam