these GE frauds really used indians to get clout and to into the league then throwed every indian player out and showed them the middle finger lmao indians should wake up and stop blindly supporting just cause they're indian
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darkhorse08 [#3]elegant
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why you getting mad not like indians are playing in GE
elegant [#4]why you getting mad not like indians are playing in GE
They trialled all Indian top players, but no one made it into the top 5.
darkhorse08 [#6]They trialled all Indian top players, but no one made it into the top 5.
Grand total of 11 or so with likes of rucifix who no hate but hv struggled in even T3 in India .
CarnageBTC [#8]who said all indians support them keke ? i dont xD
i admit not all indians but alot of them did when they weren't in the league it was an all indian roster that got this org popular and all the clout now that they've reached the global stage they kick all the indians out it's just exploiting the indian support and their feelings
TrashTalkerV2 [#10]Naahhh bro, all you do is yapping HAHAHAHA. I wonder if you even graduated primary school.
idc you can disrespect me all you want but they're just using indians for clout
CarnageBTC [#8]who said all indians support them keke ? i dont xD
how is this region gonna grow if stuff like this happens
darkhorse08 [#6]They trialled all Indian top players, but no one made it into the top 5.
BBL had an all turkish lineup just saying it was an all indian roster that got this org the clout that it needed to reach the league
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elegant [#15]BBL had an all turkish lineup just saying it was an all indian roster that got this org the clout that it needed to reach the league
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Turkey has good players and big on esports, India does not. Simple as that . GE finally realized if they don’t drop the Indians they will be kicked out in 2027
strify [#16]imagine being gone for 3 months and then the first thing you post is this kekw
cuz i'm indian this is a troll id and i haven't been playing the game much past months been playing silent hill 2 before that i was playing the elden ring dlc it's pretty good
Suiiiiiii [#18]Tbh I would rather have non Indian players on the lineup rather than getting embarrassed on the global stage. They are also working on the Indian academy lineup as well. It will take time but this is the only viable way things can work out for now
as if this org haven't been getting embarrased ever since they entered vct with an non indian lineup
x_knowitall39_x [#17]Turkey has good players and big on esports, India does not. Simple as that . GE finally realized if they don’t drop the Indians they will be kicked out in 2027
who was in the team past 2 seasons? they had a non indian lineup the entire time
elegant [#13]how is this region gonna grow if stuff like this happens
everything was perfect until the owner started having unrealistic expectations ... the sole purpose of selecting GE into franchise was to try and grow the scene in South Asia ... but the owner started dreaming of champs trophy keke
CarnageBTC [#22]everything was perfect until the owner started having unrealistic expectations ... the sole purpose of selecting GE into franchise was to try and grow the scene in South Asia ... but the owner started dreaming of champs trophy keke
that's true
CarnageBTC [#22]everything was perfect until the owner started having unrealistic expectations ... the sole purpose of selecting GE into franchise was to try and grow the scene in South Asia ... but the owner started dreaming of champs trophy keke
+1, that fraud owner will change his words every single time from promising to improve the SA Scene by saying now we don't need Indian player because of their performance as if LF was the problem of GE roster in 2024 we all know how ass was polvi, Russ and Benkai than LF.
Invic_Deep [#7]It's alright their wish , they believe a team without indians has best chance of winning so be it.
But their true intentions would be visible if they don't invite Indian T2 teams for GE vs world showmatch after promising exclusively that event
when is the showmatch btw any idea??
Brother how many times do I need to tell you guys
WE ARE BUNS AT VIDEO GAMES
THERE YOU GO
Indian tier 2 players, didn't even show up at the trials
Fuck do you want GE to do
These bums care about paychecks
Here is a little stat
The best tier 2 team was carried by Kazakhs and the highest rated Indians from that team at Ascensions were rated at 38th in all of ascension whereas the Kazakhs were at top 10, both of them.
That same Indian was top 10 in ratings in the South Asia challengers and that speaks a ton
That's a -28 in ranking
The Indian scene is diluted as fuck
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i've seen worse than 753 posts
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darkhorse08 [#6]They trialled all Indian top players, but no one made it into the top 5.
Rucifix?! I've whooped this guy several times in ranked, there's no way he makes it to the top 15
nmshowl [#29]Rucifix?! I've whooped this guy several times in ranked, there's no way he makes it to the top 15
Yet he was there in trials bro imagine the quality of Indian trials if he is one of 11 who trialed
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bahahaha there are people who have 14k posts in less than a year
Invic_Deep [#31]18 to 24 nov six days bo5 back 2 back
fuck me ...... it just had to be during my exams gaddamit
shaggyboy1030 [#34]every match would be bo5??
yess and against a different team only GE plays evryone rest all play just once against GE
botfragger432 [#24]+1, that fraud owner will change his words every single time from promising to improve the SA Scene by saying now we don't need Indian player because of their performance as if LF was the problem of GE roster in 2024 we all know how ass was polvi, Russ and Benkai than LF.
Why don't YOU start your own org with your own funds ust to grow SA scene?
Tifizza [#38]He might have a point.
If BBL can do it, why GE cannot do it ?
India's current population : 1,455,344,223
Turkey's current population : 87,473,805You can't tell me there aren't 5 Tier 1 good players in that IMMENSE number ? if the answer is no, then that is just sad
I will tell you that India doesn't have 5 tier 1 pros
And Turkey is like the powerhouse of EMEA in terms of talents, there is lightyears of difference between us and them
The only thing to say in there is , with open trials only lightning fast made it to top 10 and rest of Indian players never did , and that's their own skill issue if u can't make it to even top 10 of trials how can u expect to even win a match in vct T1 with those players, plus Two random kazakhs just came in and farmed the league of South asia without any prior experience and even ended in top 10 rating of ascension while no Indian player was even close . Also they are starting their academy roster for Indian players to develop and if u ever want those to play in the T1 directly u gotta make sure u still have that slot during the next few years and not lose it just cause u wanted to play indians in the server who currently aren't at that level
Tifizza [#38]He might have a point.
If BBL can do it, why GE cannot do it ?
India's current population : 1,455,344,223
Turkey's current population : 87,473,805You can't tell me there aren't 5 Tier 1 good players in that IMMENSE number ? if the answer is no, then that is just sad
Ur dumb bro, do u know the pc numbers in India ,less than 15% have a laptop or a desktop and out of them less than 70% have laptops and desktops good enough to run valo smoothly, and even out of the left ones not everyone plays or likes valorant and the ones who do are just playing for fun and don't wanna go pro . Turkey moreover had a CS history previously unlike india cause forsaken is an asshole ( the Indian one and not prx one) don't make blind comparisons bro
KClaw [#41]Ur dumb bro, do u know the pc numbers in India ,less than 15% have a laptop or a desktop and out of them less than 70% have laptops and desktops good enough to run valo smoothly, and even out of the left ones not everyone plays or likes valorant and the ones who do are just playing for fun and don't wanna go pro . Turkey moreover had a CS history previously unlike india cause forsaken is an asshole ( the Indian one and not prx one) don't make blind comparisons bro
I am not dumb, I said that if the answer is NO, then that is Sad. and what you've described dear sir, "Sad" is an understatement.
I hope things will get better for you
and I wasn't making any statements, I was simply asking questions
Denjisideals [#26]Brother how many times do I need to tell you guys
WE ARE BUNS AT VIDEO GAMES
THERE YOU GO
Indian tier 2 players, didn't even show up at the trials
Fuck do you want GE to do
These bums care about paychecks
Here is a little stat
The best tier 2 team was carried by Kazakhs and the highest rated Indians from that team at Ascensions were rated at 38th in all of ascension whereas the Kazakhs were at top 10, both of them.
That same Indian was top 10 in ratings in the South Asia challengers and that speaks a ton
That's a -28 in ranking
The Indian scene is diluted as fuck
what happened with the previous roster for past 2 seasons ? they weren't all indians they all got embarassed
KClaw [#40]The only thing to say in there is , with open trials only lightning fast made it to top 10 and rest of Indian players never did , and that's their own skill issue if u can't make it to even top 10 of trials how can u expect to even win a match in vct T1 with those players, plus Two random kazakhs just came in and farmed the league of South asia without any prior experience and even ended in top 10 rating of ascension while no Indian player was even close . Also they are starting their academy roster for Indian players to develop and if u ever want those to play in the T1 directly u gotta make sure u still have that slot during the next few years and not lose it just cause u wanted to play indians in the server who currently aren't at that level
they brought different players from different regions past 2 seasons and didn't accomplish anything at all coulda just got indians to play the teams got embarrased anyway tarik was saying the same thing
Denjisideals [#39]I will tell you that India doesn't have 5 tier 1 pros
And Turkey is like the powerhouse of EMEA in terms of talents, there is lightyears of difference between us and them
BBL was one of the worst performing teams in emea that year and GE was in apac coulda just gotten an all indian roster the results woulda been the same tarik was saying the same thing
BalkanSigma78 [#32]bahahaha there are people who have 14k posts in less than a year
yeah those people live on this website
Invic_Deep [#9]Grand total of 11 or so with likes of rucifix who no hate but hv struggled in even T3 in India .
rucifix in GE trials? are you fkn joking. I teach some young kids to play valo for ascendant lobbies, and he was in their vods. Indian scene is cooked if its that bad
Invic_Deep [#30]Yet he was there in trials bro imagine the quality of Indian trials if he is one of 11 who trialed
bro paid management to get a spot on OG last season
Anti-fakenews [#47]rucifix in GE trials? are you fkn joking. I teach some young kids to play valo for ascendant lobbies, and he was in their vods. Indian scene is cooked if its that bad
Indian scene isn't cooked it's just GE and their shenanigans.
They invited very few players , radiant was criteria and rucifix prob cleared it(it helps that he is a friendly guy nd has friends in industry) . For instance Paradox wasn't called up who was best Indian rep in ascension this year , Mogo boys except Deathmaker didn't try and they are the best team in India .
So yeah trial happened on Sg server putting Indians at disadvantage against other Apac pros so it was so so trial.
Anyways DM and Techno made it to round 2 rest were eliminated in round 1.
Lightningfast joined later in close trials and none were selected that's it
Invic_Deep [#49]Indian scene isn't cooked it's just GE and their shenanigans.
They invited very few players , radiant was criteria and rucifix prob cleared it(it helps that he is a friendly guy nd has friends in industry) . For instance Paradox wasn't called up who was best Indian rep in ascension this year , Mogo boys except Deathmaker didn't try and they are the best team in India .
So yeah trial happened on Sg server putting Indians at disadvantage against other Apac pros so it was so so trial.
Anyways DM and Techno made it to round 2 rest were eliminated in round 1.
Lightningfast joined later in close trials and none were selected that's it
Nvm
Krytox [#50]Nvm
Paradox applied but Ge just didn't call him up for trials for some reason.
Open trials doesn't mean all 400 who applied were allowed to play and Ge management watched them . GE management shortlisted some 80 players from all applications and only they were watched with some barely getting 2-3 maps to prove themselves
CarnageBTC [#22]everything was perfect until the owner started having unrealistic expectations ... the sole purpose of selecting GE into franchise was to try and grow the scene in South Asia ... but the owner started dreaming of champs trophy keke
ok now this is just plain stupid
GE is not in the franchise league to give reservations for indians who just arent good enough for T1 yet
They have conducted open trials for their roster and the fact that only 11 indians even thought about participating shows the lack of interest
Every team owner dreams of attending and winning champions so its pretty stupid to think that hes aiming “too high”
I like this new roster and i think they can do pretty well this time around
Krytox [#52]ok now this is just plain stupid
GE is not in the franchise league to give reservations for indians who just arent good enough for T1 yet
They have conducted open trials for their roster and the fact that only 11 indians even thought about participating shows the lack of interest
Every team owner dreams of attending and winning champions so its pretty stupid to think that hes aiming “too high”
I like this new roster and i think they can do pretty well this time around
but the point of franchising is to develop talent in the first place ... otherwise riot would have given franchise slot to any other org ? who tf is GE ? there were way better orgs during that time .... it was purely for SA reprentation and u cant argue that ... whatever
elegant [#43]what happened with the previous roster for past 2 seasons ? they weren't all indians they all got embarassed
its plain simple,
Bad coaching staff
Spin couldnt utilize the talent he had in the 2023 roster, and the 2024 roster which was made by spin and bigtime was just awful
Krytox [#52]ok now this is just plain stupid
GE is not in the franchise league to give reservations for indians who just arent good enough for T1 yet
They have conducted open trials for their roster and the fact that only 11 indians even thought about participating shows the lack of interest
Every team owner dreams of attending and winning champions so its pretty stupid to think that hes aiming “too high”
I like this new roster and i think they can do pretty well this time around
Oh no no no you're too naive bro, the only reason why GE gets the franchising slot in the first place is to cater to Indian audience.
Why? Because there are orgs that are miles better GE and none of them are picked Because none have an interest in investing into Indian scene(aside from indian orgs). GE have yet to do anything significant for the region.
While it's not wrong to dream big, rushindra needs to wake tf up and realize his position. He's there to help the Indian scene grow and he needs to do a better job on that.
CarnageBTC [#53]but the point of franchising is to develop talent in the first place ... otherwise riot would have given franchise slot to any other org ? who tf is GE ? there were way better orgs during that time .... it was purely for SA reprentation and u cant argue that ... whatever
Developing talent is for tier 2 like challengers
Franchising (Tier 1) showcases the best of the best
Every teams aims for the best possible roster to do good
I agree that GE was chosen to have a indian representative in VCT but indians arent good enough to compete in Tier 1, then why would they hire them?
GE are planning on making an academy team in challengers sourh asia to help develop talent in the region, they havent turned their backs from south asia region
elegant [#43]what happened with the previous roster for past 2 seasons ? they weren't all indians they all got embarassed
Coaching issues, role issues, comms issues
They get T3xture even after the fact that he had limited English comms and don't give me that he can learn bs
Comms are important and you can't force someone to comm against what they are comfortable in to that extent and that's okay, look where he is now
Last year it was a budget roster by all means
You let Monyet go and then pay for Benkai (????)
Benkai who was most suited for Assistant coach and not a player
You get all these past tier 1/tier 2 players who are past their prime
And Indians don't deserve a chance as of now
There is no sugarcoating it
I will not stand for praise which is not deserved
A full Indian team would get 13-0'd by atleast 6 teams in the league
Maybe, just maybe, if you considered, they aren't good enough
Last year's DFM would dogwalk any all Indian team
I am not saying India doesn't have talent, but the talent isn't ready yet
Maybe next year if OG keeps their current roster
That's the best chance India has at an all Indian roster
Krytox [#57]Developing talent is for tier 2 like challengers
Franchising (Tier 1) showcases the best of the best
Every teams aims for the best possible roster to do good
I agree that GE was chosen to have a indian representative in VCT but indians arent good enough to compete in Tier 1, then why would they hire them?
GE are planning on making an academy team in challengers sourh asia to help develop talent in the region, they havent turned their backs from south asia region
Should have done that fucking years ago instead of now when finally riot gave teams an incentive to do so.
If riot didn't tweak academy rules trust me rushindra won't even be thinking about making an academy team.
elegant [#45]BBL was one of the worst performing teams in emea that year and GE was in apac coulda just gotten an all indian roster the results woulda been the same tarik was saying the same thing
BBL was NOT one of the worst rosters
BBL ended stage 2 at 7th, same number of games won as 6th, defeated Heretics, NAVI and Lulquid
I don't know where you are getting this narrative from
Er3ngenes1s [#55]I think this is a long term project like how TH was this year. they are trying to have core for future seasons with the foundations being in set and then they maybe get some indian players on it
I can guarantee no one from academy will join the main roster in coming years.
Its all pr.
Invic_Deep [#51]Paradox applied but Ge just didn't call him up for trials for some reason.
Open trials doesn't mean all 400 who applied were allowed to play and Ge management watched them . GE management shortlisted some 80 players from all applications and only they were watched with some barely getting 2-3 maps to prove themselves
all 400 people who werent allowed to play was because they didnt fit in the criteria that they STATED in the open trial registration. They played alot more matches and the coach chose the players for the roster.
Idk anything about the paradox situation tbh
IonlywatchvcjXD [#59]Should have done that fucking years ago instead of now when finally riot gave teams an incentive to do so.
If riot didn't tweak academy rules trust me rushindra won't even be thinking about making an academy team.
you are acting as if GE has a shit ton of money. GE is a smaller org compared to the other teams in the pacific league and hence they would probably had to manage their money accordingly.
Krytox [#65]you are acting as if GE has a shit ton of money. GE is a smaller org compared to the other teams in the pacific league and hence they would probably had to manage their money accordingly.
So better org were rejected with more finance to put ge in franchise. I wonder what could be the reason behind picking GE over other orgs. Certainly not to grow and support Indian region.
Invic_Deep [#67]now that this thread is alive again just using this moment to let you all know that as of now GE is playing EDG on 24th, Boom on 21 , another Apac team on on 23rd,one of JDG/FPX/DRG/BLG/TEC on 22nd, OG/MOGO on 18th and probably RNT on 19th, DSG on 20th(idk on what basis RNT is invited ).
Obviously cuz skillz and Rossi, Ge cannot look beyond their old players for some reason.
Greed_ [#68]Obviously cuz skillz and Rossi, Ge cannot look beyond their old players for some reason.
Rossi said on stream he isnt part of team anymore though he is still at RNT bootcamp, Sultan left, DOS9 left and even Para isnt scrimming as of now idk on what basis RNT is being called to debut with a brand new roster directly in showmatch instead of letting both OG and Mogo play.
Invic_Deep [#69]Rossi said on stream he isnt part of team anymore though he is still at RNT bootcamp, Sultan left, DOS9 left and even Para isnt scrimming as of now idk on what basis RNT is being called to debut with a brand new roster directly in showmatch instead of letting both OG and Mogo play.
Where do you even get the leaks on teams invited
Greed_ [#62]I can guarantee no one from academy will join the main roster in coming years.
Its all pr.
not even one? zamn
Er3ngenes1s [#71]not even one? zamn
While I don't think they will fail, they definitely have a lot to catch up to. Which is why from start of vcl sa Ge alongside t2 teams shoud've formed academy teams. To put it in years:
e.g
2020 2021 2022 is so you can catchup to other region
2023 2024 realistically where your talents starts to show
Don't know the when exactly are you done catching up, heck you might have to play catchup game for a long time, but the point is there will be a point where the investement starts to pay off, the earlier you start the faster you will catch up
Invic_Deep [#67]now that this thread is alive again just using this moment to let you all know that as of now GE is playing EDG on 24th, Boom on 21 , another Apac team on on 23rd,one of JDG/FPX/DRG/BLG/TEC on 22nd, OG/MOGO on 18th and probably RNT on 19th, DSG on 20th(idk on what basis RNT is invited ).
where did u get this info? m curious
I knew they were having showmatches with various teams but how do you know which teams?
Krytox [#74]where did u get this info? m curious
I knew they were having showmatches with various teams but how do you know which teams?
I posted on separate thread saw a stillshot from owner's video ,this was all written in whiteboard behind him
Invic_Deep [#75]I posted on separate thread saw a stillshot from owner's video ,this was all written in whiteboard behind him
ohhh ok thanks man
Greed_ [#66]So better org were rejected with more finance to put ge in franchise. I wonder what could be the reason behind picking GE over other orgs. Certainly not to grow and support Indian region.
thats what im saying .... GE was never a big org enough to be in franchise if financial stability was the only criteria
Stopped supporting GE after season 1. They said they can't win with Indian players. Well, you couldn't win without them either. Instead of helping Indian rookies realize their potential, they are now developing SEA and Korean talent for them. Do you really think the bigger orgs from KR and SEA would pass off these guys GE signed, if they were generational talents?
NOX_- [#81]u aint Indian why so butthurt about Indian players think about el salvador
i am indian lmao
CarnageBTC [#78]thats what im saying .... GE was never a big org enough to be in franchise if financial stability was the only criteria
and this org acts like indians are a liabilty when indians are the reason they're there none would give a shit about this org if this was in some other country without the indians supporting them in big numbers and player like skrossi which had a big indian fanbase behind him
ohhkida [#80]get a life, get associated with a gang mate <3
india ka hu mai bhai kyu racism faila raha
avenger50000 [#82]Stopped supporting GE after season 1. They said they can't win with Indian players. Well, you couldn't win without them either. Instead of helping Indian rookies realize their potential, they are now developing SEA and Korean talent for them. Do you really think the bigger orgs from KR and SEA would pass off these guys GE signed, if they were generational talents?
the reason they got a place in vct was cause they're indians and cause of representation there were bigger orgs than GE they could've gotten then but they got a small org like GE why? cuz of indians and now this org is acting like indians are a liablity when they're the sole reason they're even in this position i only wish our people stopped blindly following such scammers and open their eyes and think properly
Krytox [#52]ok now this is just plain stupid
GE is not in the franchise league to give reservations for indians who just arent good enough for T1 yet
They have conducted open trials for their roster and the fact that only 11 indians even thought about participating shows the lack of interest
Every team owner dreams of attending and winning champions so its pretty stupid to think that hes aiming “too high”
I like this new roster and i think they can do pretty well this time around
the reason they got a place in vct was cause they're indians and cause of representation there were bigger orgs than GE they could've gotten then but they got a small org like GE why? cuz of indians and now this org is acting like indians are a liablity when they're the sole reason they're even in this position i only wish our people stopped blindly following such scammers and open their eyes and think properly
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