So GE might be going with a Phillipines Roster for next season.
So the question is will Indian Audience still prefer to Support GE in VCT Pacific knowing they won't be having any Indian Player to represent them and Bigger question GE host Watch Parties in India for their match will people show up to those watch parties to Support GE.
Also I don't know If I am Wrong or not but I feel Philippines are very racist towards Indian.
It's not like GE have a choice, our players aren't getting results for them, we simply don't have the player quality to hang in with T1, it's a shame but it's something we have to accept as a region, the only thing we can do now is grow and develop Players who are capable of Playing In T1, but that isn't going to happen if our orgs and players don't change their ways
NOX_- [#2]Org is still Indian so still I will support
Tbh its everyone choice if u want to support u can if dont want then dont
I dont understand why you guys are supporting GE with no Indian players. Just because GE is an Indian org doesn't mean we have to consider a totally foreign roster. If that's the case, you should have supported Entity Gaming from dota2 cause the org is Indian. I won't bootlick GE until they atleast an single Indian in the roster !!
botfragger432 [#5]I dont understand why you guys are supporting GE with no Indian players. Just because GE is an Indian org doesn't mean we have to consider a totally foreign roster. If that's the case, you should have supported Entity Gaming from dota2 cause the org is Indian. I won't bootlick GE until they atleast an single Indian in the roster !!
Well in valorant it's about Orgs not country it's not a world cup
ReaperBM [#8]Well in valorant it's about Orgs not country it's not a world cup
It's same for every esport title not just valorant lol.
In India ( or any other country), they support real Madrid and Barcelona more than their own country club.
I get the point of us seeing Indian players thrive in tier 1 but I don't really get the obligation of 'GE should hire Indian players because it is an Indian org'. if Indian players aren't good enough for tier 1 yet, why should GE hire Indian players? Only valid reason in my opinion is that; Indian players get experience from tier 1. Which is a very good reason don't get me wrong, however I don't believe GE is a charity either.
They are gonna prioritise winning. I mean just getting to champs means you get an extra share of champs bundle revenue right? Financially speaking it makes sense for orgs to hire players that they think would win them games, instead of prioritising country over skills.
If GE creates an academy for Indian players to improve I will support them, as for who they hire for their T1 team, I don't really care. Either way they are trying their best to survive imo, esports isn't really a financially forgiving business.
botfragger432 [#5]I dont understand why you guys are supporting GE with no Indian players. Just because GE is an Indian org doesn't mean we have to consider a totally foreign roster. If that's the case, you should have supported Entity Gaming from dota2 cause the org is Indian. I won't bootlick GE until they atleast an single Indian in the roster !!
Let me say that if you are not capable to run a business would your father give you chance or give chance to other brother who is more effective in this area
KssS [#11]Im not racist i love indian curry /s
But for real tho there are real racist people in the philippines. However, we still have people here who love indian movies, culture, food, and not to mention a very strong indian-filipino community.
such a kiss ass. lets be real filipinos dont like indians.
stopper [#15]such a kiss ass. lets be real filipinos dont like indians.
nahhhhh that's your opinion
botfragger432 [#5]I dont understand why you guys are supporting GE with no Indian players. Just because GE is an Indian org doesn't mean we have to consider a totally foreign roster. If that's the case, you should have supported Entity Gaming from dota2 cause the org is Indian. I won't bootlick GE until they atleast an single Indian in the roster !!
prx earlier in 2024 had 0 players from singapore but singaporeans still supported them. and Singapore has much better players than india has to offer. in the end its about winning and getting money not being patriotic. Granted 2024 GE didnt win shit despite having an international roster so ig fans can be disappointed
botfragger432 [#5]I dont understand why you guys are supporting GE with no Indian players. Just because GE is an Indian org doesn't mean we have to consider a totally foreign roster. If that's the case, you should have supported Entity Gaming from dota2 cause the org is Indian. I won't bootlick GE until they atleast an single Indian in the roster !!
French orgs like kc and vitality have no French player and see their fanbase it's still huge it's all about perspective, in your case you are too fixated on INDIAN PLAYERS
Demon1_The_GOAT [#18]Are Indians really that bad at Valorant? There's a huge population, but gamers aren't that competitive as other parts in the world I'm assuming?
It's Not Being Bad or Being good , I mean There are 2 prospects to this take
1stly In India Gaming is considered not a a good hobby to have and Parent don't support, I mean everybody knows this narrative of Indians Being only Doctors and Engineers
2ndly Some didn't get enough chances be it any sport other than cricket, I mean Look at formula 1 we have only 1 driver in F2 and his brother literally cried in team radio that his Team doens't support him.
Also see GE only they should be giving chances to Indian players but Instead they just bail them out 1st with Skrossi and Then with Lightiningfast.
I mean LF did perform decent for GE last way better compared to other 4 players still he got dropped and we have some talent in tier 2 scene it's just that everybody wants quick result and With everybody I mean Indian Audience they just want the player to top frag every game .
Dan_E56 [#12]I get the point of us seeing Indian players thrive in tier 1 but I don't really get the obligation of 'GE should hire Indian players because it is an Indian org'. if Indian players aren't good enough for tier 1 yet, why should GE hire Indian players? Only valid reason in my opinion is that; Indian players get experience from tier 1. Which is a very good reason don't get me wrong, however I don't believe GE is a charity either.
They are gonna prioritise winning. I mean just getting to champs means you get an extra share of champs bundle revenue right? Financially speaking it makes sense for orgs to hire players that they think would win them games, instead of prioritising country over skills.
If GE creates an academy for Indian players to improve I will support them, as for who they hire for their T1 team, I don't really care. Either way they are trying their best to survive imo, esports isn't really a financially forgiving business.
Ok so About Winning Both years they all said About GE wining with 1 Indian On roster then still ended up in bottom so Does it make any difference signing 5 different country player and Still ending at the bottom . It's better to sign 5 Indian player give them some time some experience and see.
Also their CEO clearly said that they can't Make a Full Indian roster or have more Indian players because it will Hurt Riot Competitive integrity. So Being at bottom with 5 international players doens't hurt riots Competitive integrity.
Also I don't know if you watch Platchat but they always make fun of GE's decison of doing Clown things .
AmanGupta12_08 [#20]It's Not Being Bad or Being good , I mean There are 2 prospects to this take
1stly In India Gaming is considered not a a good hobby to have and Parent don't support, I mean everybody knows this narrative of Indians Being only Doctors and Engineers2ndly Some didn't get enough chances be it any sport other than cricket, I mean Look at formula 1 we have only 1 driver in F2 and his brother literally cried in team radio that his Team doens't support him.
Also see GE only they should be giving chances to Indian players but Instead they just bail them out 1st with Skrossi and Then with Lightiningfast.I mean LF did perform decent for GE last way better compared to other 4 players still he got dropped and we have some talent in tier 2 scene it's just that everybody wants quick result and With everybody I mean Indian Audience they just want the player to top frag every game .
Okay so basically India is fucked in Esports and won't have a great future in it.
juho [#7]yeah im supporting them. Indians were given the chance, they just weren't good enough 🤷🤷.. I'd like GE to at least be competitive in playoffs and shit instead of being the laughing stock
Given Chances ? What chances ? Ok Skrossi was Given some chances and He Performed in 1-2 Matches and Was dogshit in other but do u really call that chances , I blame Coaching staff for this Horrendous years Of GE , I mean Coaching staff of Ge tried to run solo Viper on Bind
Zyrux [#13]Let me say that if you are not capable to run a business would your father give you chance or give chance to other brother who is more effective in this area
I mean I don't know If u watch Formula 1 or Not but There is a Team called Aston Martin who is Owned by one of their Driver's father and Everyone says that he doens't know how To drive .
stopper [#15]such a kiss ass. lets be real filipinos dont like indians.
Keep hating, no Indian cares.
AmanGupta12_08 [#23]Given Chances ? What chances ? Ok Skrossi was Given some chances and He Performed in 1-2 Matches and Was dogshit in other but do u really call that chances , I blame Coaching staff for this Horrendous years Of GE , I mean Coaching staff of Ge tried to run solo Viper on Bind
they had open trials...
AmanGupta12_08 [#23]Given Chances ? What chances ? Ok Skrossi was Given some chances and He Performed in 1-2 Matches and Was dogshit in other but do u really call that chances , I blame Coaching staff for this Horrendous years Of GE , I mean Coaching staff of Ge tried to run solo Viper on Bind
YOU are so delusional bro, they had open trials and none of the players from india did even make the last shortlisting of top 10. So , dont even cry abt indian players and what not.
For Coaching staff, I think they had plans and it did not work out because our players were fucking chokers. 1st season only Monyet and Texture were absolute best. Rossi had only few moments and nothing else
AmanGupta12_08 [#21]Ok so About Winning Both years they all said About GE wining with 1 Indian On roster then still ended up in bottom so Does it make any difference signing 5 different country player and Still ending at the bottom . It's better to sign 5 Indian player give them some time some experience and see.
Also their CEO clearly said that they can't Make a Full Indian roster or have more Indian players because it will Hurt Riot Competitive integrity. So Being at bottom with 5 international players doens't hurt riots Competitive integrity.
Also I don't know if you watch Platchat but they always make fun of GE's decison of doing Clown things .
Does nationality here really matter here? I mean esports is a business at the end of the day. GE is gonna pick whoever the deem good enough for winning (no matter where the player is from). I am not saying they'll win or make international, I am just saying its their decision.
I think they care more about winning and making champs because of the extra revenue.
I realise this thread is more about GE fans and I was thinking more about Indian esports in general. What I really meant was that no one has an obligation to invest in the Indian esports scene. Personally I am just happy with ANY investment in the Indian esports scene in general. But I wouldn't get mad at an org (no matter where they originate from) to not do so. But I understand why people may be upset at GE for not investing in the Indian esports scene.
I don't watch platchat, I only really watch thinking man's valorant. But doesn't everyone clown on GE atp?
botfragger432 [#5]I dont understand why you guys are supporting GE with no Indian players. Just because GE is an Indian org doesn't mean we have to consider a totally foreign roster. If that's the case, you should have supported Entity Gaming from dota2 cause the org is Indian. I won't bootlick GE until they atleast an single Indian in the roster !!
That's so retarded
Dan_E56 [#28]Does nationality here really matter here? I mean esports is a business at the end of the day. GE is gonna pick whoever the deem good enough for winning (no matter where the player is from). I am not saying they'll win or make international, I am just saying its their decision.
I think they care more about winning and making champs because of the extra revenue.
I realise this thread is more about GE fans and I was thinking more about Indian esports in general. What I really meant was that no one has an obligation to invest in the Indian esports scene. Personally I am just happy with ANY investment in the Indian esports scene in general. But I wouldn't get mad at an org (no matter where they originate from) to not do so. But I understand why people may be upset at GE for not investing in the Indian esports scene.
I don't watch platchat, I only really watch thinking man's valorant. But doesn't everyone clown on GE atp?
It's Not About Nationality or Something, They Advertise themselves as Indian Org and only Indian Hope and Survivors in this scene. I mean they can Sign whoever they want but then advertise ur self as International org rather than Indian Org. Indian Audience is Quite Volatile and They use that. I mean KC and Vitality are French Orgs But they don't advertise themselves completely like French Orgs they just have International as Their logo in VCT.
Demon1_The_GOAT [#22]Okay so basically India is fucked in Esports and won't have a great future in it.
I mean you can't be Good In everything , I mean India is Good In Cricket , chess , Major Olympiad's of Maths and Science and other sports too. I mean where is Singapore or Spain's or Finland's Cricket team. I mean China , USA , Russia , Brazil , Russia , Japan are some of the biggest countries in the World they don't have anything in Cricket .
AmanGupta12_08 [#30]It's Not About Nationality or Something, They Advertise themselves as Indian Org and only Indian Hope and Survivors in this scene. I mean they can Sign whoever they want but then advertise ur self as International org rather than Indian Org. Indian Audience is Quite Volatile and They use that. I mean KC and Vitality are French Orgs But they don't advertise themselves completely like French Orgs they just have International as Their logo in VCT.
I admit I only started following valorant esports this year so I don't know much about GE's past or how they have promoted themselves to garner supporters. But yeah I agree its kind of scummy to ask for a country to support you when you don't support any players from that country.
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