why is aspas considered the best in the world?

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bananacannon33

he won 0 international titles this year

only had the best "stats" in americas stages

was never the best duelist at any international tournament

baits his team vs other top duelists

he is not the best, don't know where this narrative came from

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y0y

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BulkyLettuce

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hes the best at baiting

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dort

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ppl on this site just love glazing duelist players for some rsn

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ishaanko

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first valid take

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But he consistently the top 2 duelist for 3 years who can play jett, raze and neon. How many players been that consistently in their role for 3 whole years?

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2022 - top 1
2023 - top 5-10
2024 - top 10-20

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false

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BUFF163

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ur false

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Who are your 4-9 duelists who were better than Aspas in 2023?

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BUFF163

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derke, demon1, something, jinggg

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Conceit

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I would absolutely love to hear who could possibly be the other 5 that could make him the 10th best duelist (which is in the range you included), but yeah most of those are debatable, but I would not say Something could be included because he only attended 1 international tournament in that year, which isn't his fault but if we're talking best over the year Aspas is clearly better

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Masa

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sayf? (i dont agree with the narrative that aspas isnt him, but i think sayf is a top 6 duelist)

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Conceit

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Sayf's goated but he unfortunately really did nothing in 2023 besides winning EMEA in a fluke game. Definitely held back by his team, but I mean Aspas got 2nd at Lock in, won Americas, and got 3rd at Champs

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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3 frauds were named

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Prasinos

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I tink brother is spreading missinformation 🤔

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But he consistently the top 2 duelist for 3 years

LOL

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FrenchToast

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well i think it’s because the pros who played against him hold him in high regard and call him the best

they have a lot of respect for him unlike some vlr users

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BUFF163

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the pros are wrong

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LocoMonteiro

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Literally every pro in the world: "Aspas is one of the best players in the world"
VLR silver analysts: "what a baiter"

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Average_NA_fan

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rewatch him diffing demon1 and zekken and there's ur answer

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bananacannon33

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he got diffed by kangkang and miniboo

and those guys actually entry

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Average_NA_fan

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kangkang said aspas is the best player, retard

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bananacannon33

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"I still got nothing [championship title] right now, so I can't [be] compared with him. In my heart, he is still the world's number one Duelist."

kangkang is better now lol
aspas is not the best

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Average_NA_fan

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illiteracy...

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BulkyLettuce

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miniboo owns your idol

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Azzelastia

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He isn't. Demon1 is the GOAT

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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He was the best duelist in 2022 champs and lock in

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bananacannon33

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2022 champs he was not the best duelist

there's 5+ duelists in that event that individually performed better

he was carried by sacy, panacada, and less

lockin maybe? although I put derke higher

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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Name a better duelist in 2022 champs, careful with the chamber merchants tho 🤭

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scream 🤓

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Yuh_aye

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don't know where this narrative came from

It came from the mouths of actual pros who play the game at the highest level

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I think Aspas is overrated to an extent, but he's still an S tier player. I think his passive playstyle has been rightfully called out this year, but he's still a mechanically great player and one of the most widely respected players in val. He'll make a huge impact wherever he goes next.

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Average_NA_fan

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aspas dropped 47 kills on sentinels with an aggressive raze and then they come these fucking bots saying he's passive

tik tok generation IQ is prob negative

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bananacannon33

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you can lie to yourself all you want but he has some of the lowest first engagement numbers out of any duelist

but keep thinking hes super aggressive. no one agrees with u

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Prasinos

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Aspas fk ratio seeing this be like: 🫥

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bananacannon33

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aspas teammates having to run in after flashing for him: 🫥

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Prasinos

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Flashing? You really watched Lev games? Bc you would know that most of comps was without flash.

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bananacannon33

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and if you watched lev games, tex gets more first engagements than aspas as sentinel

even mazino as breach has to entry for him lol

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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bro watching the game on Vlr.gg stats tab 💔🐶💔

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Prasinos

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Cleary dont watched, when Mazino is with Breach, Aspas do the entry.
But when the comp is without bang and C0M is lurking, the team plays slow and most of the times, depends of Aspas getting the Fk with any to no skill support.

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Average_NA_fan

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aspas gets 20 thousand views per live on twitch u can be sure a lot of people agree with me and each one of them has higher IQ than u

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ValAnalist1

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Idiot people really can't understand. It's not your fault. You are just dumb.

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Prasinos

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Calma princeso, que raiva é essa? Kakakakaka.
Eu to indeciso se é bait gringo ou só o classico negacionismo com Br.

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ValAnalist1

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Tem que meter a real pros newba que não entendem porra nenhuma. Aspas é o melhor jogador dessa porra e ponto final. Isso é provado pela consistência dele, que desde que chegou em 2022 o cara não teve momento ruim. Tu acha um ou outro que tem uma mecânica do nível dele, acha alguns que tenha seja fundamentalmente correto igual a ele, mas tu não acha jogadores que sejam mecanicamente do nível dele e ainda sim com essa gameplay fundamentada.

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Prasinos

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O OP ta usando o argumento de titulo, mas ignorando o fato do Aspas sempre estar top 3 e com 2 Americas.
Mané me meteu Zekken > Aspas por causa de Madrid kakakakkakakakakkakakaka.

Foda é os gringo ignorando tudo isso, só pq sim, eles querem o NA no topo.

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notnormally

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It come from having the best stat on multiple tourney, the consistent top 2 duelist for 3 year, ( on raze, jett, neon) and acknowledgement from pro, coach and analyst

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Aspas is one of the best but to say the he's been top 2 duelist for 3 yrs now is just not true.

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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2022 aspas

2023 aspas demon1

2024 aspas kk

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bananacannon33

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2023 derke demon1 (aspas 0 titles)

2024 kk zekken texture (aspas 0 titles)

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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Titles = best LULW

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bananacannon33

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ur "best" player hasn't won a single title in 2 years yet he's the "best" 🤡

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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is valorant a 1v5 game now or what

Braindamage 😴

#57

bananacannon33

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primmie diffed your goat while losing 2-0

what's your excuse

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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"diffed" is doing crazy work here 😂😂😂😂

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Prasinos

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Like he wasnt top 3 at both 2023 and 2024 champs, and winned both VCT americas 🙏

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Prasinos

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It no way u saying Zekken > Aspas 🤣.

Nah bro, Demon1? Fine, Derke? Fine, ZEKKEN?
Brother Zekken was washed by Aspas in 2023 and 2024.

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Prasinos

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3/8

Impressive is the other ones going in his bait

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my personal opinion is because of how consistent he has been for legit years I can count on 1 hand the amount of bad games he has had over the years

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bananacannon33

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if we want to talk consistency

derke has been consistent longer than him and has more titles

and even in last champs, he was better than aspas

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False again sadly

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Prasinos

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Thank you, a valid discussion, Derk vs Aspas is valid, Zekken vs Aspas? Beyond delusional.

But no, Derke isnt consistent as Aspas, you talk about titles like if only the first place exist, Derke had a good run in the first master, being 2th, a no existent 2022, 1th lock in, 1th masters, 2th Emea, 4th Champs.
2024, 1th Emea. And besides Emea, Derke wasnt top4 in any 2024 international.

Aspas in other hand, since he joined the professional Val, he allways is top 3.
2th Masters, 1th Champs
2th lock in, 1th Americas, 3th champs
1th Americas, 4th masters, 3th Champs.

Derke has a good year and right after, a mid year.
Aspas has allways good years.

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derke is the best duelist

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even if he baits, you cant be that consistent for this long without being great. Also, he would instantly make any team better by replacing the main deulist on every single team besides maybe a couple.

Derke, KangKang, Zekken, texture and some other people are the exception. But basically every other team only gets better. Imagine if NRG, FNATIC now, PRX, or even G2 got him. They would be insane.

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kanyefan4238173

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Ngl his consistency is unmatched and in this game it’s hard to be consistent

He’s never been the best player in the world but he’s always up there and never has a bad game. It depends what you value in a player because this game is too dynamic to name an objective best player

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thwifo_fan

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he is the best player itw as of now no one else has been consistently good for as long as he has
he is kind of a jett one trick tho

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SomeoneLikeU

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Ever since he started playing in T1 he has been a top 2 player in the world at all points in each year. It's just consistancy.

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bananacannon33

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he was not a top 2 player this year or last year

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SomeoneLikeU

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yes he was. He was by far the best last year and for this year it was him and t3xture with zekken being 3rd.

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bananacannon33

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he was not by far the best last year lol

Leo was far better in stats and won 2 titles
Alfajer was also better than him
Demon1 was better

No one says aspas was the best in 2023

This year, t3xture is better + kangkang + zekken

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aspas played better than Leo in Lockin and champs, Alfa got shit on in lock in and champs, Demon1 was better at champs and only champs.
t3xture is better yes, zekken is maybe and kangkang was the worst player on his team by far until the grand final of champs and only champs other than that he wasnt even top 20 at any event.
You are the exact type of person to say that aspas baits. BulkyLettace get off the alt.

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badvibrations

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Bait used to be believable

#73

ohptic

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