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Demon1 smokes > TenZ smokes

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#1
meanie

Demon1 at some point was the best controller in the world (champs 2023), meanwhile TenZ has never been at that level. This is a fact that cannot be argued against.

I think it’s obvious to admit that SEN Demon1 would be an upgrade, also TenZ was really only an Omen one trick.

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RzqoFoxie
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Everyone's smokes > TenZ smokes

#12
AldiX07
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how does it feel to get grouped by the "worst" smoke player

#3
Soddalele
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0/8

#4
KennyJones
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Boaster smokes > Demon1 smokes > TenZ smokes

#5
meanie
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reported for terrorism

#11
fixxfinn
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Bro just wanna feel included

#6
idkmanwth
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it took sen fans 10 hours to turn on their legend

#8
meanie
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the fuck you expect me to do paint up a mural?

#10
idkmanwth
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the least you can do is not compare, ik tenz's agent pool aint flexible but he's good at the agents he played

#16
boilin_cockroach
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Bro you have to be blind to think that amovie’s 69th alt account is sen fan. That guy just rage baits everytime

#28
idkmanwth
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#25, btw hi boiling cock

#44
boilin_cockroach
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hi idkmanwth!

#17
Denjisideals
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It's ammovie. He is an EG fan. This is his new account.

#18
meanie
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whatever makes you guys sleep at night

#25
idkmanwth
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idk who amovie is, but thanks for telling me :)) fake flairs are worse than baiters ngl

#7
jawn
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demon1 was never at any point the best controller in the world

#9
meanie
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he dickslapped every matchup whenever he played smokes in champs including the smokes goat himself mako, he was 100% the best

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AfterGlow22
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Demon1 can't play viper and I've seen better omen. He was a fragging controller that just put down smokes and isolated 1v1s like an absolute God. He was never really at the level of Mako or any other top tier controllers at that, but he was good, no doubt about that, better than Tenz I would say.

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jawn
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meaning he just got more kills, demon1 isn't even remotely close to being compared to mako on the smokes role let's stop with the dumb shit

#15
meanie
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The biggest smokes gap in VCT 2023 was literally Demon1 beating the shit out of Mako in the upper semis at Champs, but keep coping

#19
jawn
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BREAKING NEWS: opposing controller puts up great numbers in 26-13 win

#20
meanie
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…because of Demon1’s performance, glad we’re on the same page here!

#22
meanie
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my king TenZ having 3 more kills in the smokes matchup against Demon1 doesn’t really hold a candle to anything I’ve said so far, like at all really. You’re honestly coming off as a retard with that move ngl

#24
jawn
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you haven't said anything but "hurr durr demon1 got kills", he isn't even top5 in americas on the role. hardly top10

#29
meanie
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what does this even mean lmaooooooo are you seriously trying to devalue Demon1’s smokes because he “just got more kills”? do you hear yourself right now? XDDD

#23
AfterGlow22
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I meant util wise. Sure, he stomped Mako back in 2023, but Mako's util and agent pool is far better than Demon1's, as a matter of fact, Jawgemo was a far better smokes player than he was in terms of util and agent pool because at least Jaw knew how to support with his paranoia. He can't support properly, his games on NRG are proof, my guy missed a bunch of paranoias and sometimes only used them for his own duels. Let the guy join SEN, please do, but I just hope they'll be able to find someone who can play Omen and not just let Demon1 play the agent.

#26
meanie
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“Mako’s util is far better” random buzzword that’s been used to death

“Jawgemo was a far better smokes player” what the fuck?

Wait your entire post is about playing Omen like that’s the only controller in the game lol. You’re also basing off Demon1’s ability to play Omen, off a single match.

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AfterGlow22
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Well, it is true. His Omen was so bad that they never let him play Omen again. And yes, my entire post is about playing omen because Omen is the most picked controller in pro play (alongside Viper, which Demon1 also can't play). And yes, Jawgemo is a better smokes player than Demon1, half of his plays were set up by the likes of Jaw and Ethan anyways.

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meanie
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“his Omen was so bad they never let him play Omen again” brother he wasn’t even the worst or 2nd worst player on the team?

“Half of his plays were set up by the likes of Jaw and Ethan” when his job is literally to just place smokes and play like a regular controller? Does Demon1 just not set up Jawgemo when he’s on duelist then?

“Demon1 can’t play Viper” when we haven’t even see him touch the agent?

“Omen is the most picked controller in pro play which means Demon1 MUST play the agent” even though it’s likely that won’t remain in 2025 with the Astra buffs?

Notice how you’re just saying shit here?

#36
AfterGlow22
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Hear yourself throughout this entire thread, I never said he was the worst or 2nd worst player on the team. Nor did I say that he was an awful smokes player (but I did say that his Omen was awful lmao no denying that). And Omen will still remain in the meta for sure, no reason for him not to just because Astra got buffed. He's never touched Viper because he can't play Viper??

Hey man no need to get angry, my entire point was that he couldn't smokes on a team by himself, they need someone else to fill the role for him when the map needs an agent that Demon1 can't play.

But here's a better suggestion, let him play Sentinel. He said it himself that he played Cypher and KJ on the reserve roster of EG before he subbed in for BcJ

#37
meanie
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Your points quite literally make no sense and you’re leaving me to scramble up a reply to sort out the confusion you’re doubling down on.

You said that Demon1’s Omen performance was so bad that his team wouldn’t allow him to play the agent again, when he wasn’t even close to being the worst player in the lobby, this makes no sense to believe just like that.

The fact that you’re still trying to tell me that he CANNOT PLAY VIPER because he HASNT PLAYED VIPER YET is such a retarded thought that summarizes all of your arguments. You believe stuff based off of absolutely nothing in such a shameless way lol.

#27
reaper_rega08
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Demon1 2023>>>>Tenz entire career.

#45
Tsensei
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these takes are why people dont respect your country

#30
GE_JERRYCHAPULIN
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Dos9 > Tenz

#40
Average_VCT_fan
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Kiles > TenZ (this is bait)

#42
H3ENnZ
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I still remember the day Demon1 played omen against TenZ...

#43
YeaUrMum
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Bro demon1 is just an aimer on smokes just like tenz is 😭
He is NOT the best smoker at any point you are stupid af
Karon or Marved are example of smokes players

#46
TM06Nick
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Well yeah demon1 plays Astra/Brim and only playing Omen is not a real controller player

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