SEN is cooked | VLR.gg

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Rey55

https://ibb.co.com/9sL2nBX

This is you with N4RRATE most likely btw. Losing to a T2 team in this fashion when they are not even performing the best in Ascension, Mexico! Verno was your best chance at redemption. There's no saving this org now LUL.

DISCLAIMER: I don't hate N4RRATE. He is a very good player but they should also upgrade zellsis's spot. Bandaid solution isn't gonna help.

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nihso

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Dementia?

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scrims wins and losses do not matter at all. actually surprising some people don't understand this

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Rey55

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losing 9-3 is pretty bad. No need to cope

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there are things like being in shape (sen are on a holiday and m80 are in the gaming form), dedication, what teams are trying. even if you lose 13-0 13-0 in a pracc, it does not matter, you have more material to work with. If you win comfortably, you can see what you are doing right. if you lose, you can see what went wrong. Literally any experience is a plus when you pracc

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rey55 is a do not engage kinda user

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I still like talking to people, even if they are baiters :D

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same lol

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And not toi mention that they literally beat them in a scrim not even a week ago with narrate

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catNmouse

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PRX and EG (when they were actually good) lost to sen in scrims many times it doesn’t matter

TH were shitting on EDG on abyss in scrims btw, how did that turn out in real time?

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Rey55

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It did matter. We latter saw in officials that SEN were indeed better than PRX.

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OPTIC were getting shit on in scrims, look how that turned out in internationals.

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Rey55

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when NV trialed yay, they were shitting on everybody that's how they knew their team was perfect. Normal scrims you can do poorly because you are trying new strats but in TRIALS they just use trusted setups, strats and the trial player has to just plug and play.

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bro ignored half the point for convenience

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bro t1 teams losing scrim is not a surprise they not much better than top t2 teams

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SEN had an opportunity to improve their team but they fumbled it

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TenZ wasn't playing so of course they were losing

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Rey55

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cope

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It's not cope. tenz is one of their best performing players and has an integral partnership with zekken. Of course they are struggling without him.

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We're taking scrim results to heart???

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A trial at that

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Rey55

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Teams try more in trials so that they can truly see if someone is good or not. If you troll in trial scrims what's the point? You coping a bit too hard buddy LOL

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you're acting like ts is the end of the world because of a 3-9 score in a scrim. Results show whether teams need improvement or not. I guarantee you if TH was getting cooked by T2 teams in scrims you would be all over this forum trying to defend and cope

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I bet he won't even reply to this

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WalmartTenz

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A trial is to see if the player can gel with the team. They won a scrim against m80 not even a week ago with narrate, so please shut tf up.

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0/10 ragebait

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they were helping them practice their strats maybe? Just like prx did with edg?

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Rey55

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They are trialing a player. Why would they do that? It serves them no purpose.

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catNmouse

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The team they are scrimming against is currently competing in ascension, why wouldn’t they?

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Rey55

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Cz it's a waste of time for the trial. He is trying to prove his worth. They won't do trail scrims forever, the have to try out how good the trial is with every single opportunity they get. Getting shit on like this do NOT help them

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Wrong, getting shit on gives them a room for improvement. Take EDG the champs winners for examples, destroyed by LOUD in madrid and TH in shanghai, they became way more resilient since then and went ahead and won it all. EG got embarrassed 0-13 by LOUD and won it all in champs as well. You will never improve if you don’t iron out your mistakes. Losing is learning

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bait so obvious fish wont fall for this

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justo

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scrim results do not matter, they literally were smacking that same team in a scrim a few days ago. dont read into it

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so they are supposed to beat ascension´s favourites with a new player that isnt used to play with the team at all

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Rey55

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Do you think they picked up the new player from ranked> The new player is N4RRATE who is literally better than sacy. They should win 9-3 with him not lose 3-9.

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they should win 9-3 when they have time with him and they already have sinergy and gameplans imo you are severely overreacting

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catNmouse

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FNC should win every game with their superstar players (with leo). They did it in 2023 so surely they do it in 2024 right? A players firepower is important sure but there are other factors like game plans, strats, what the enemy is doing, etc. I think that’s what you are failing to realize. A team like M80 is running out of meta comps. FNC 2024 is not the same as FNC 2023 for that reason lol. I think you are overlooking into this way too much as well bro

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Rey55

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DISCLAIMER: I don't hate N4RRATE. He is a very good player but they should also upgrade zellsis's spot. Bandaid solution isn't gonna help.

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Sacy is way worse than Zellsis, Sacy all year up to champs has been shit and even in Champs playoffs he fell off

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No one is denying that !! but Zellsis is still NOT great. They shoulda gotten verno or v1c as well as N4rrate

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Zellsis is the sole reason we won map 5 vs Gen.G he had like 25 kills lol + intangibles + he's our midrounder people like you see a player who is literally average of the pack in Americas and Average in the pack in Champs so just because he's not dropping Aspas number on Flex he's not good

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I am a d1 SEN hater, but this is a stretch brotha

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its a trial lol

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cameran

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wait so with ur new edited comment u saying that they shouldve get n4rrate or u saying that zellsis should get dropped lol

and thats 1 scrim, in the past 3 scrim leaks theyve been 10-4ing them lol

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michaelisupset

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did you just ignore the results where they were 16-4, 5-0, 8-2, etc against m80? or is it just whatever fits your narrative

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catNmouse

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The latter, i guarantee you if this was about TH he wouldn’t hold them to the same standard

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Rey55

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TH doesn't need to do trials because they already have the perfect team. The point isn't to show scrim results, the point is that they are doing this bad even with a talented player like N4RRATE meaning they have other problems than just replacing sacy

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catNmouse

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Are you going to ignore the fact that they’ve won more in scrims than losing or what?

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Rey55

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losing 9-3 is still pretty fkin bad with a team that's supposed to make you unstoppable, a superteam of sorts. That's just me

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catNmouse

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Firepower isn’t everything dude

They are currently ahead of c9 in scrims but you’re obviously not going to mention that because it won’t fit your narrative

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Rey55

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I don't have a narrative. I used to like SEN and I still like some of their players but I just don't buy the narrative that they are gonna be a SUPERTEAM or gonna contest against NRG/LEV/100T etc next season just cz they are upgrading on sacy.

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catNmouse

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That’s fine, you don’t have to believe in them lol. They’ll do fine without your support

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clearly they don’t have a “perfect” team when they lose every grand final they are in

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Rey55

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That's really good for their rookie year

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U ARE RIGHT N4RRATE MUST STAY IN KC

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catNmouse

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only if m0gnum is out

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Kqwzt

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give me another igl i beg

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michaelisupset

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i’ve got bad news for you

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catNmouse

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Is it even likely he’ll leave KC? yeah sure he’s trialing but at the end of the day, they are just trials

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I mean him doing trials kind of implies that he plans on leaving, no?

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catNmouse

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Saadhak trialed with NRG many times last year though

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0/8 bait . bro is taking scrims results seriously

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EnterKey

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You're kind of supposed to lose in scrims cause you just test new things and if it works it works and if it doesn't it doesn't 💀

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Rey55

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They are doing trial scrims. I don't think they are cooking up new starts.

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terrible bait but i guess it worked 3/8