Surely good enough for tier 1 right?
Every match this guy is the best player, good firepower, good util, good gamesense. W loyalty too since he stuck with us for this year, cannot thank him enough for that.
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calImegod [#2]He's better than a lot of tier 1 smoke players. He's easily top 5 smokes in the world. He just wants to stick with M80 for some reason
I mean loyalty in eSports is sure very rare
Dunno about top 5 tho since he is very unproven but definitely a top tier talent
Is igl at this age
Great overall
Denjisideals [#3]I mean loyalty in eSports is sure very rare
Dunno about top 5 tho since he is very unproven but definitely a top tier talent
Is igl at this age
Great overall
He clears mindfuck
Targu1n [#6]Imma be real, I think all of em are good enough for t1 skill wise
Just gonna depend on what slots open up and how they mesh with the existing players on that roster
I mean if they do make it to tier 1, I definately see them go to playoffs in the minimum
They try a lot of things which makes it really difficult to anti strat them
Few weeks back they were running the triple sentinel comp now they running the yoru on lotus
Very dynamic team, just needs to add a bit more firepower and let's be honest, there's lots of that in na tier 2 if they want to find it
Hobbit [#8]He's one of the best controller players in NA...
Teams like 100T, C9, EG, NRG could sign him if they're looking for a guaranteed upgrade
Facts
As much as I want him to forever be part of M80, I do want him to succeed. however, if we win this time then he is the face of a tier 1 team so I guess everyone wins
Denjisideals [#9]Facts
As much as I want him to forever be part of M80, I do want him to succeed. however, if we win this time then he is the face of a tier 1 team so I guess everyone wins
I think he'll be in franchise next year no matter what
Really impressive considering that you can't really say the same about any other ascension player
Hobbit [#10]I think he'll be in franchise next year no matter what
Really impressive considering that you can't really say the same about any other ascension player
Yea man
Plus fragging igl
Absolutely cracked
Demon1_The_GOAT [#12]Skuba v1c clears. Zander dont really work well with other teammates besides his mates in M80 as well. Solid player though.
Not even as an IGL?
Denjisideals [#14]Not even as an IGL?
I honestly think he plays a lot better not being IGL. He had a hard time in V1 back then when he was IGL, but hes a good aimer and can clutch easier if he dont need to focus on other things. Just my opinion. But 2025 will be very different and so will Tier 1 gameplay.
Demon1_The_GOAT [#15]I honestly think he plays a lot better not being IGL. He had a hard time in V1 back then when he was IGL, but hes a good aimer and can clutch easier if he dont need to focus on other things. Just my opinion. But 2025 will be very different and so will Tier 1 gameplay.
Let's see what happens. Just want best for the guy. Hopefully he will be in T1 with M80
Denjisideals [#16]Let's see what happens. Just want best for the guy. Hopefully he will be in T1 with M80
Yea winning Ascension with M80 is best bet for him. But M80 may choke again so who knows!
Demon1_The_GOAT [#17]Yea winning Ascension with M80 is best bet for him. But M80 may choke again so who knows!
Yea competition is tough
I still believe in the boys tho
Denjisideals [#18]Yea competition is tough
I still believe in the boys tho
I've never believed in Koalanoob and Nismo seems to be falling short. BCJ and Net have T1 experience so there's a chance M80 will succeed. Koala been playing better so there's hope.
Demon1_The_GOAT [#19]I've never believed in Koalanoob and Nismo seems to be falling short. BCJ and Net have T1 experience so there's a chance M80 will succeed. Koala been playing better so there's hope.
Koala is kind of like Icy
Very passive duelist
In some form or other, M80 and G2 are very similar to each other in the way they play
Hobbit [#8]He's one of the best controller players in NA...
Teams like 100T, C9, EG, NRG could sign him if they're looking for a guaranteed upgrade
I don't think it's as guaranteed of an upgrade over s0m, but the rest definitely.
Denjisideals [#11]Yea man
Plus fragging igl
Absolutely cracked
Tbf, I don't think he's called since V1. It's mostly been Johnqt, Nitro, and Net calling this time. I don't know if he doesn't want to igl or other's have just wanted to do it more.
calImegod [#2]He's better than a lot of tier 1 smoke players. He's easily top 5 smokes in the world. He just wants to stick with M80 for some reason
He's not even the best smoke in NA
Tooker [#21]I don't think it's as guaranteed of an upgrade over s0m, but the rest definitely.
Zander is 100% better at controller
That's mostly because s0m is not a specialist, he flexes most of the agents but doesn't specialize in any role
Demon1_The_GOAT [#15]I honestly think he plays a lot better not being IGL. He had a hard time in V1 back then when he was IGL, but hes a good aimer and can clutch easier if he dont need to focus on other things. Just my opinion. But 2025 will be very different and so will Tier 1 gameplay.
what's with the narrative that being igl means you can't clutch? fragging in general i understand, as you have to be checking minimap and processing information a lot more often, but in a clutch you're alone with nothing besides the standard info to focus on lol
Tooker [#22]Tbf, I don't think he's called since V1. It's mostly been Johnqt, Nitro, and Net calling this time. I don't know if he doesn't want to igl or other's have just wanted to do it more.
he's literally calling this season
Hobbit [#8]He's one of the best controller players in NA...
Teams like 100T, C9, EG, NRG could sign him if they're looking for a guaranteed upgrade
I'm sorry... are you calling Zander a guaranteed upgrade over s0m? Are you insane? I love m80 and Zander definitely belongs in tier 1 (the whole squad did since last year), but s0m clears
Tooker [#22]Tbf, I don't think he's called since V1. It's mostly been Johnqt, Nitro, and Net calling this time. I don't know if he doesn't want to igl or other's have just wanted to do it more.
net has never fully igled he was always 2nd igl
fatdaddy [#28]I'm sorry... are you calling Zander a guaranteed upgrade over s0m? Are you insane? I love m80 and Zander definitely belongs in tier 1 (the whole squad did since last year), but s0m clears
Yes, now what are you going to do about it
Hobbit [#25]Zander is 100% better at controller
That's mostly because s0m is not a specialist, he flexes most of the agents but doesn't specialize in any role
s0m has proven to be a world class harbor, great on omen and brim and has a very good understanding of how the role works lmao. getting zander over s0m is not an upgrade, it’s a side grade at best
catNmouse [#31]s0m has proven to be a world class harbor, great on omen and brim and has a very good understanding of how the role works lmao. getting zander over s0m is not an upgrade, it’s a side grade at best
His Harbor I'll buy, but you will never convince me otherwise
Zander is not considered the best controller in NA just because he's not playing on any top team
Wait until 2025, everyone will say he's the best controller in the world in a few months
Hobbit [#32]His Harbor I'll buy, but you will never convince me otherwise
Zander is not considered the best controller in NA just because he's not playing on any top team
Wait until 2025, everyone will say he's the best controller in the world in a few months
This discussion is pointless because even if m80 lose out on ascension zander is still contracted for another 2 years lol
catNmouse [#33]This discussion is pointless because even if m80 lose out on ascension zander is still contracted for another 2 years lol
M80 let their players seek offers as unrestricted F/A after failing to qualify in 2023, I don't see how they wouldn't do the same this year
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