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Is aspas really the goat?

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He does decent in region. Mid performance in almost every international tournament seoul, LA, shanghai, tokyo, istanbul . Maybe the goat of playing for stats in 2024

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nihso
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Flag and flair.

I agree though.

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Syr0m
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flag + flair

#13
catNmouse
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friendly fire

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chrlxz
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im deadly serious when i say im taking QutionerX over statspas any day

#5
michaelisupset
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you gotta be stupid

#6
meanie
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that is because you are deadly (?) retarded. All good though! The British are usually like that

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chrlxz
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u btw

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meanie
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❤️zekken❤️

#7
nihso
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Quwho? Statpas clears

#10
cloudberry
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No QutionerX slander allowed 😡

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nihso
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I've literally never seen this guy. He's on BBL no? He's good si or no?

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cloudberry
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He's a great duelist, ye

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chrlxz
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he is genuinely really good jokes aside

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Astaaaaa
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he had 440 kills in la just saying

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ValAnalist
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He is the most consistent player in valorant until now. This is not debatable. But to be the GOAT, you can use other logics like who won more international events... who make less mistake, who influences more... you can choose your goat, but Aspas have the best argument for him.

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Botroretro
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How is Aspas consistent again? I remember him always either dropping 30 or going 0.5kd on loud

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ValAnalist
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Loud in 2022 all the players played well, so they didn't need a star to carry, the same thing happened in EDG 2024, KangKang before the final was just fulfilling his role. He is the most consistent because he always plays well in every tournament. And Aspas is a different duelist than the others, he is not just a good aimer, he knows how to play smart. That's why you see several duelists who show up at a camp killing everyone, but as soon as the aim stops working the guy becomes completely useless for the team.

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YouvebeenGremlined
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In short, if you value trophies and success at the highest level, chronicle is the goat, if you value individual performance and dominance over the competition, Aspas is the goat.

I'd say Aspas better than decent at every international, he's in the top 3 performing duelists in every metric in every international he's attended if you exclude shanghai where LEV flopped, even then he was still the 6th best player at the event because every player above him was a duelist and he was holding a staggering 0.21 fkpr which means he's not playing for stats or baiting his team either. He's made nearly every international event. When looking at great players, the most important factors are consistency. There's a reason why nobody is going to argue that a player like Cned or Nats is the goat, even yay to some extent because while they may have been the undoubtedly the best player for a significant period, they haven't held up over time. When you think of Goats, you need players who have consistently near the best, sometimes this is easy because you have a player who's been the best for a long time EX: Lip in overwatch. But most of the time we need players who have been near the top for the longest. At this point in valorant, there are only really two main players that you can argue. Chronicle and Aspas. Both of these players have storied careers, multiple high-level international performances and have shown that they are the best or one of the best in their role for their entire career. Chronicle is a weird case because while he's almost never been the best player on his team (Nats on GMB) (Leo/alfajer on FNC)(although recently he's been the best on FNC) he's been a top 20 player throughout the entirety of his career and has never really had a significant drop in individual impact. The biggest thing he has going for him is his FOUR international title wins (3 with FNC, 1 with GMB). Aspas is a more typical case, while he only has 1 international title and 3 grand finals appearances, He's always been near the top or at the top of his role, significantly more than any other player. During the reign of Yay and LOUD's arguably best year (2022) the only player that consistently could match him was aspas, during FNC's 2023 dominance, aspas was regularly outperforming Derke. In 2024, he's continued his form with LEV. Even when LEV missed masters madrid, aspas was top 2 in kickoff and number 1 in Americas. He kept his form at both internationals he attended this year. You can argue that he's not the best at any given moment in valorant history, (same for chronicle) but his consistency in always being near the peak of play hasn't been matched.

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trembolonaRage
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#21
shzuo
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If there is other player that went top 3 champions three years straight you tell me
(And two-times Americas champion, Masters 2022 2nd place and Lock-in 2nd place)

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