Goodbye MIBR and GE
GE can only themselves by making a decent roster + pulling Indian fanBase (rather than making them angry, by bad choice of players)
The simple choice is this lineUp
🇻🇳YESicaN (Asc'23 best)
🇰🇿Dos9 (ranked demon, destroys server in 80 ping)
🇮🇳SkRossi/Venka (the favs n top 2)
🇰🇷Yoman/🇸🇬Styron(IGL)
A good KR🇰🇷 Smoker (Persia etc)
KR plyrs r good for low budget team like GE, cutting player extra expenses
This doesn't mean shit unfortunately
But atleast they will be on their toes
Re-evaluation is basically the vct term for we are working on it or the classic GE trust the process
Plus those are two very big markets in terms of viewership
I doubt they will actually do anything
(Please don't kick MIBR 🥲)
kamisavitar [#4]GE can only themselves by making a decent roster + pulling Indian fanBase (rather than making them angry, by bad choice of players)
The simple choice is this lineUp
🇻🇳YESicaN (Asc'23 best)
🇰🇿Dos9 (ranked demon, destroys server in 80 ping)
🇮🇳SkRossi/Venka (the favs n top 2)
🇰🇷Yoman/🇸🇬Styron(IGL)
A good KR🇰🇷 Smoker (Persia etc)KR plyrs r good for low budget team like GE, cutting player extra expenses
Just sign the SPG roster if they fail
Koreans on English speaking roster never work at full potential and rightfully so. Not every region uses English as a main language
Look at Persia and T3xture
If you want to sign a good Korean or JP roster, might as well sign them as a whole
Yea just to be very clear theres a LOT of teams expected to be in these talks with riot
We have no idea if Riot even plans to kick a team so Id treat these talks more as warnings for teams riot deems as under preforming.
Personally I dont think anyone's getting removed, since riot have waited for the roster shuffles to start before holding these talks without warning any team directly that they might be losing their spot.
Lots of pros already in advanced talks with various orgs, and the public backlash for screwing over the players would be unnecessary for riot
Denjisideals [#6]Just sign the SPG roster if they fail
Koreans on English speaking roster never work at full potential and rightfully so. Not every region uses English as a main language
Look at Persia and T3xture
If you want to sign a good Korean or JP roster, might as well sign them as a whole
Ig Riot added GE ONLY coz of potential Indian fanBase,
So if they can't fulfill EVEN dat there is no point of having them.
There r 10+ better orgs in GE, IN EVERY sphere
what GE can pull r huge numbers for riot as Valo is PLAYED by alot of PPL casually but eSports engagement is less , but again all they did was disappointment
kamisavitar [#4]GE can only themselves by making a decent roster + pulling Indian fanBase (rather than making them angry, by bad choice of players)
The simple choice is this lineUp
🇻🇳YESicaN (Asc'23 best)
🇰🇿Dos9 (ranked demon, destroys server in 80 ping)
🇮🇳SkRossi/Venka (the favs n top 2)
🇰🇷Yoman/🇸🇬Styron(IGL)
A good KR🇰🇷 Smoker (Persia etc)KR plyrs r good for low budget team like GE, cutting player extra expenses
These kind of rosters need insane amount of time to build synergy and ge just does not keep their roster if they fail in one year. Plus if youre having kr players there will be communication issues. You can't make a good roster just by adding good players from each region
kamisavitar [#10]Ig Riot added GE ONLY coz of potential Indian fanBase,
So if they can't fulfill EVEN dat there is no point of having them.
There r 10+ better orgs in GE, IN EVERY spherewhat GE can pull r huge numbers for riot as Valo is PLAYED by alot of PPL casually but eSports engagement is less , but again all they did was disappointment
Facts
OG is wayyy better than them in terms of infrastructure and decision making
Targu1n [#9]Yea just to be very clear theres a LOT of teams expected to be in these talks with riot
We have no idea if Riot even plans to kick a team so Id treat these talks more as warnings for teams riot deems as under preforming.Personally I dont think anyone's getting removed, since riot have waited for the roster shuffles to start before holding these talks without warning any team directly that they might be losing their spot.
Lots of pros already in advanced talks with various orgs, and the public backlash for screwing over the players would be unnecessary for riot
Which is why I said riot Essentially called out majority of the orgs being shit partners, losing partners rn means riot needs to have a substitute and face the backlash
Realm3098 [#11]These kind of rosters need insane amount of time to build synergy and ge just does not keep their roster if they fail in one year. Plus if youre having kr players there will be communication issues. You can't make a good roster just by adding good players from each region
Yoman knows eng he worked as IGL for CN team
Persia was already part of Indian team OG
I made sure to eliminate communication gap as much as possible, idk abt YESicaN but he is an utilised Jewel of Pacific
SAMPV6 [#8]Franchising is about stability🤪👍🏻
Yes. And these teams aren't helping the sustainability. MIBR isnt doing shit with the funding that VCT is giving them (I heard they were using it in other esports instead) and GE isn't well liked by the Indian fans because they are both failing as a team and not fielding an Indian roster.
IonlywatchvcjXD [#13]Which is why I said riot Essentially called out majority of the orgs being shit partners, losing partners rn means riot needs to have a substitute and face the backlash
yup gotta agree
there are good partners ready in t2 tbf, but fixing relations/expediencies with existing partners is so much easier
firefirefirefire [#17]can you post the tweet here plz
Sources: MIBR's and Global Esports' VCT slots are set for reevaluation after the 2025 season. These aren't the only ones, as several other teams are also set to undergo similar reevaluations.
firefirefirefire [#17]can you post the tweet here plz
Sources: MIBR's and Global Esports' VCT slots are set for reevaluation after the 2025 season. These aren't the only ones, as several other teams are also set to undergo similar reevaluations.
Denjisideals [#21]Sources: MIBR's and Global Esports' VCT slots are set for reevaluation after the 2025 season. These aren't the only ones, as several other teams are also set to undergo similar reevaluations.
Slow
Not1 [#19]Bruh ge gets removed from franchise and it's ggs for indian val.
Don't listen to delusional people bro , business decisions are taken with quite a few things kept in mind and India isn't losing that slot anytime soon .
Even if GE is removed I am 80% sure Orangutan will get the slot . RGE isn't big enough, rest don't hv any stability or structure. The only way OG doesn't get the slot is if Riot wants to capitalise on fanbase thing and decided to give Godlike or S8ul the slot for that purpose since both hv fielded teams in past.
ncahlil [#26]Wait why them? I dont really follow americas sry
Broke ass org just like me frfr.
someone there hired their gardener as an accountant
ncahlil [#26]Wait why them? I dont really follow americas sry
EG are practically not an org anymore, they only exist because riot forced them to stay because franchising contract stuff
C9 are probably losing 80% of their revenue with BC Game being in trouble
RAOSHAB [#18]Why though, I’m sure its not the results
GE was given the slot most likely to develop the Indian market/fanbase
What they've done so far in this direction is nothing short of a disasterclass
Mibr i speculate for alleged funds misuse
Sk00d [#29]EG are practically not an org anymore, they only exist because riot forced them to stay because franchising contract stuff
C9 are probably losing 80% of their revenue with BC Game being in trouble
What is BC game?
Sk00d [#27]EG gonna be out first
C9 looking likely as well, I wonder how is KOI holding up nowadays on the financial side
EG badly deserves it esp the contract jail drama last szn
As for KOI pique doesn't know shit on running an esports org he won't bail KOI out for sure
Sk00d [#29]EG are practically not an org anymore, they only exist because riot forced them to stay because franchising contract stuff
C9 are probably losing 80% of their revenue with BC Game being in trouble
C9 are probably losing 80% of their revenue with BC Game being in trouble
I saw this too but you should have check the replies too. the person who reported this claimed the percentage is wrong and said it's like 30%
Dattadri_sai [#37]W RIOT
better give the slot to OCE/VIET/Mongolian
They would probably just not demote some of the ascension teams instead of adding random orgs
Denjisideals [#6]Just sign the SPG roster if they fail
Koreans on English speaking roster never work at full potential and rightfully so. Not every region uses English as a main language
Look at Persia and T3xture
If you want to sign a good Korean or JP roster, might as well sign them as a whole
i unfragged u for just being indian
Invic_Deep [#25]Don't listen to delusional people bro , business decisions are taken with quite a few things kept in mind and India isn't losing that slot anytime soon .
Even if GE is removed I am 80% sure Orangutan will get the slot . RGE isn't big enough, rest don't hv any stability or structure. The only way OG doesn't get the slot is if Riot wants to capitalise on fanbase thing and decided to give Godlike or S8ul the slot for that purpose since both hv fielded teams in past.
Bro godl and s8ul are not interested in val and also I don't think so that they have plans for such big investment.
Only entity, rnt Or maybe og are good enough to replace ge. But entity not interested in val
thiagomds [#42]What about Furia? They kept the same players. Khalil renew until 2026. Riot should reevaluate Furia and maybe bring another BR org.
Obviamente a MIBR ta sendo reavaliada por causa da diretoria de merda deles, não existe motivo algum pra reavaliarem a FURIA kkkkkkj
I Hope GE gets kicked out of franchise as they are the worst org to get an opportunity to represent a region with huge esports fan base. As an Indian i just want to see full Indian roster that's it. Doesn't matter if they come last, at least they will grow and inspire new players for better future in this game.
Invic_Deep [#3]Lot of them are being re-evaluated but yess GE needs to improve something or Orangutan's better structure, funding and facilities might just knock them out of VCT
GE money>>>
burritx [#44]Obviamente a MIBR ta sendo reavaliada por causa da diretoria de merda deles, não existe motivo algum pra reavaliarem a FURIA kkkkkkj
Furia nao conseguiu absolutamente nada na franquia até agora, olha o time dos cara, o melhor nivel foi ganhar de uma loud cansadissima em crise, de uma mibr fraca e uma 100T desmoronando, tomaram espanco de LEv e EG, time com potencial n toma espanco assim. Renovaram com khalil enquanto tem cortezia e brinks no mercado kkkk
AvgRossiFan [#30]GE was given the slot most likely to develop the Indian market/fanbase
What they've done so far in this direction is nothing short of a disasterclassMibr i speculate for alleged funds misuse
probably number of indian supporting GE and valo has reduced
thiagomds [#48]Furia nao conseguiu absolutamente nada na franquia até agora, olha o time dos cara, o melhor nivel foi ganhar de uma loud cansadissima em crise, de uma mibr fraca e uma 100T desmoronando, tomaram espanco de LEv e EG, time com potencial n toma espanco assim. Renovaram com khalil enquanto tem cortezia e brinks no mercado kkkk
Fúria é a org do "voltaremos mais forte" e do "importante é se divertir" não esperem nenhuma boa decisão dessa org que fede a fracasso
kamisavitar [#4]GE can only themselves by making a decent roster + pulling Indian fanBase (rather than making them angry, by bad choice of players)
The simple choice is this lineUp
🇻🇳YESicaN (Asc'23 best)
🇰🇿Dos9 (ranked demon, destroys server in 80 ping)
🇮🇳SkRossi/Venka (the favs n top 2)
🇰🇷Yoman/🇸🇬Styron(IGL)
A good KR🇰🇷 Smoker (Persia etc)KR plyrs r good for low budget team like GE, cutting player extra expenses
damm that's great roster tbh
Coldy29 [#46]I Hope GE gets kicked out of franchise as they are the worst org to get an opportunity to represent a region with huge esports fan base. As an Indian i just want to see full Indian roster that's it. Doesn't matter if they come last, at least they will grow and inspire new players for better future in this game.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
thiagomds [#48]Furia nao conseguiu absolutamente nada na franquia até agora, olha o time dos cara, o melhor nivel foi ganhar de uma loud cansadissima em crise, de uma mibr fraca e uma 100T desmoronando, tomaram espanco de LEv e EG, time com potencial n toma espanco assim. Renovaram com khalil enquanto tem cortezia e brinks no mercado kkkk
e? time não ganhar não é motivo pra org ser reavaliada kkkkkkkkkk
Warlordwibz [#34]GE won't survive 2025 objective based org funds provided by riot. Disguised will be good replacement.
nah cause Dsg is of MYSG Region and MYSG already has PRX , so if they gonna replace then it could be OG Or Rnt
Dattadri_sai [#37]W RIOT
better give the slot to OCE/VIET/Mongolian
Even if GE is gotten rid of, the slot will still be given to India. A lot of market potential + Val Mobile is also gonna launch soon.
nihso [#53]Finally. MIBR and GE putting up the worst performance year after year.
It's not because of performance or results; it seems to be more about expectations not being met. Although I'm not familiar with other regions, in the Pacific region, DFM's performance has been way worse than GE's. Therefore, the core issue may lie in GE not fulfilling what they were contracted for, and that it engaging the Indian audience, which is quite the opposite of what was anticipated.
VISION007 [#57]nah cause Dsg is of MYSG Region and MYSG already has PRX , so if they gonna replace then it could be OG Or Rnt
If we're talking giving region slots in VCT for the purpose of just existing, I'd rather have OCE.
DSG because Toast (content creator org) always focus on fans, INTERNATIONAL fans, not just solely focus on 1 country only, like GE.
VISION007 [#57]nah cause Dsg is of MYSG Region and MYSG already has PRX , so if they gonna replace then it could be OG Or Rnt
Regions shoudn’t play roles in choosing org
Skoepdoep2 [#43]MIBR doesn't even deserve to have a team, they suck ass, they should disband.
eg lost 2-0 to them tho
burritx [#56]e? time não ganhar não é motivo pra org ser reavaliada kkkkkkkkkk
entao pq o mibr seria?
ihatewestjett [#35]EG badly deserves it esp the contract jail drama last szn
As for KOI pique doesn't know shit on running an esports org he won't bail KOI out for sure
i dont care about pique lol
KOI is 3 orgs mixed into one but the first 2 seasons they had some internal issues, I wonder if things are straightening out and how their finances are looking now
thiagomds [#64]entao pq o mibr seria?
é serio que tu nem leu o que eu escrevi antes de montar aquela parede de texto? Kkkkkkkkkkk
a diretoria da MIBR NEGOU fazer um time bom, rejeitaram todas as ideias com jogadores do T1 e T2 e deixaram a mesma line de 2023 por causa de dinheiro (que eles tinham), e obviamente tão fazendo mais merda pra Riot estar investigando
burritx [#66]é serio que tu nem leu o que eu escrevi antes de montar aquela parede de texto? Kkkkkkkkkkk
a diretoria da MIBR NEGOU fazer um time bom, rejeitaram todas as ideias com jogadores do T1 e T2 e deixaram a mesma line de 2023 por causa de dinheiro (que eles tinham), e obviamente tão fazendo mais merda pra Riot estar investigando
negou fazer time bom de acordo com quem? A org foi contra a opinião dos coaches? pq pra mim a furia era terrivel tb, as 2 se negaram a fazer time bom entao? Tem que ter provas disso.
thiagomds [#48]Furia nao conseguiu absolutamente nada na franquia até agora, olha o time dos cara, o melhor nivel foi ganhar de uma loud cansadissima em crise, de uma mibr fraca e uma 100T desmoronando, tomaram espanco de LEv e EG, time com potencial n toma espanco assim. Renovaram com khalil enquanto tem cortezia e brinks no mercado kkkk
A Furia toma ferro por ser muito boazinha e ter más escolhas de montagem de equipe, mas imagino que a diretoria deve ter uma boa relação com a Riot e também eles tem grana (pra gastar) pra ter uma operação estável, imagino que seja essa a diferença
RAOSHAB [#20]Sources: MIBR's and Global Esports' VCT slots are set for reevaluation after the 2025 season. These aren't the only ones, as several other teams are also set to undergo similar reevaluations.
hope one of the other ones is clown9
Sk00d [#27]EG gonna be out first
C9 looking likely as well, I wonder how is KOI holding up nowadays on the financial side
KOI is fine they signed Demon1
IonlywatchvcjXD [#2]Lol, they're just being reevaluated, some of these orgs are getting called out for being shit partners 😂😂
"So MIBR, Ive heard you are using your VCT money on your CS roster?"
~Leo Fartia
Getsyuga [#59]It's not because of performance or results; it seems to be more about expectations not being met. Although I'm not familiar with other regions, in the Pacific region, DFM's performance has been way worse than GE's. Therefore, the core issue may lie in GE not fulfilling what they were contracted for, and that it engaging the Indian audience, which is quite the opposite of what was anticipated.
It's kinda hard to do that when Indian Valorant hasn't really done anything and it would be considered a waste of money coming from the management pov.
Invic_Deep [#3]Lot of them are being re-evaluated but yess GE needs to improve something or Orangutan's better structure, funding and facilities might just knock them out of VCT
got tired of those clowns in vip section of champs after finishing bottom 2 regionaly
Not1 [#41]Bro godl and s8ul are not interested in val and also I don't think so that they have plans for such big investment.
Only entity, rnt Or maybe og are good enough to replace ge. But entity not interested in val
When you are about to get money and global recognition everybody is suddenly interested. At the end of the day this is all business never forget
Sharo [#61]Regions shoudn’t play roles in choosing org
They should and they always do as long as orgs are competent. Anybody not represented in T1 is going to die out very quickly trust me
toofan1 [#47]GE money>>>
They aren't as rich as you think but yess they are well set-up in Korea and have spent a long time in this scene
AlexSMTx [#73]"So MIBR, Ive heard you are using your VCT money on your CS roster?"
~Leo Fartia
F R ??
thiagomds [#68]negou fazer time bom de acordo com quem? A org foi contra a opinião dos coaches? pq pra mim a furia era terrivel tb, as 2 se negaram a fazer time bom entao? Tem que ter provas disso.
De acordo com o próprio bzkA irmão, e você ta realmente comparando a MIBR não fazer um time novo por ser mão de vaca, com a Furia que pegou 2 talentos muito promissores do tier 2 e ainda tentou contratar jogadores do T1?
Se vc quer falar mal da furia por não ganhar nada fica a vontade, mas não fica querendo inventar desculpinha pra se justificar lol, a line da Furia simplesmente não tinha encaixado no 1 split, a line da MIBR sempre foi ruim
Getsyuga [#58]Even if GE is gotten rid of, the slot will still be given to India. A lot of market potential + Val Mobile is also gonna launch soon.
cope lmfao, u think Mongolian/OCE/Viet doesn’t have market potential? lol market potential my fcking ass i radder have a competitive League than some random indian orgs with market potensial bullshit witch probably not even true, can’t even afford a good PC gaming talking about market potential lol, u are not China 😂 & nobody gaf about val mobile
Dattadri_sai [#86]cope lmfao, u think Mongolian/OCE/Viet doesn’t have market potential? lol market potential my fcking ass i radder have a competitive League than some random indian orgs with market potensial bullshit witch probably not even true, can’t even afford a good PC gaming talking about market potential lol, u are not China 😂 & nobody gaf about val mobile
Europeans dont know shit about how things work here in SEA. PUBG, Free Fire, CODM these all generate whole ton of money, especially search up Free Fire that shit generated more money than most PC games ever could. As for market potential, the esports scenes is just an extension for them to generate more money, they don't give a fuck bout your preference.
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