lock//in excluded because invitational
5- PRX, EDG
4- FNC, FUT, FPX
3- LOUD, TH, T1, DRX, GENG
2- KRU, NRG, EG, SEN, LEV, G2, NAVI, TL, DRX, BLG
1- 100T, KC, VIT, GX, TLN, ZETA, TE, ASE, DRG
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dort [#4]fpx made all 3 finals in their region just to get grouped at every international
just shows how trash their league is
what you said is true but unfortunately
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nobody___100 [#7]what you said is true but unfortunately
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dort [#4]fpx made all 3 finals in their region just to get grouped at every international
just shows how trash their league is
grouped ?
mf they got the worst groups possible
legit their only international opponents were mfs that made the grand finals
AND THEY STILL CUT IT CLOSE
CoCloudy [#10]grouped ?
mf they got the worst groups possible
legit their only international opponents were mfs that made the grand finals
AND THEY STILL CUT IT CLOSE
let's not get ahead of ourselves here
fpx lost to qck and karmine corp in madrid, and t1 at champs last year
maybe they were good at shanghai, but in champs as well they lost pretty convincingly to sen
they need more experience, its a situation where even tho the team itself is good, they just don't have the ability to close out wins internationally because of a lack of experience
CoCloudy [#10]grouped ?
mf they got the worst groups possible
legit their only international opponents were mfs that made the grand finals
AND THEY STILL CUT IT CLOSE
close games dont cut it sadly. they are 1-9 in internationals currently
shrike- [#3]prx not having an international win is laughably sad and i love it because it makes them get closer and closer to realizing the way they play will never win them a trophy
Made more finals that NRG tho xD
Crypto_816 [#14]Made more finals that NRG tho xD
and? this doesn't change the fact that prx will legitimately never win an international trophy with how they play. this is a fact.
Crypto_816 [#14]Made more finals that NRG tho xD
What good is making finals if you can't even win them?
nobody___100 [#11]let's not get ahead of ourselves here
fpx lost to qck and karmine corp in madrid, and t1 at champs last year
maybe they were good at shanghai, but in champs as well they lost pretty convincingly to sen
they need more experience, its a situation where even tho the team itself is good, they just don't have the ability to close out wins internationally because of a lack of experience
champs last year was a different roster ??
fpx lost to THE EMEA KICK OFF WINNERS
and top 4 finalist of madrid
they almost won again TH and geng multiple times
dort [#4]fpx made all 3 finals in their region just to get grouped at every international
just shows how trash their league is
12-5
dort [#13]close games dont cut it sadly. they are 1-9 in internationals currently
they will make it 9-9 next year
shrike- [#3]prx not having an international win is laughably sad and i love it because it makes them get closer and closer to realizing the way they play will never win them a trophy
what about my goat benjyfishy and TH?
shrike- [#15]and? this doesn't change the fact that prx will legitimately never win an international trophy with how they play. this is a fact.
the way they play has no change whatsoever on them not winning an event. The only reason they dont win is cause of their shit map pool. They have close to 3 good maps and once they get into a BO5 their weak map pool fucks them over. The only reason they were so dominant was because of their playstyle
DBStudios [#16]What good is making finals if you can't even win them?
thats a stupid mindset to have. Making a finals in it self is amazing. sure winning it would be the best and nothing would compare but being in the finals automatically means you are a top 2 in the world. You cant be top 2 in the world if your "Playstyle is bad " as the people say it is. Whats bad isnt their playstyle but their map and agent pool.
Crypto_816 [#26]the way they play has no change whatsoever on them not winning an event. The only reason they dont win is cause of their shit map pool. They have close to 3 good maps and once they get into a BO5 their weak map pool fucks them over. The only reason they were so dominant was because of their playstyle
yeah they dominated because they could outaim everyone
look at what happens when they face teams that 1) can actually shoot back and 2) have a much better game plan than them, they completely crumble
then running completely insane comps just to w key into site and hope to click heads isn’t going to win them a championship. sure it’s fun to watch, and it’ll gain them a lot of fans, but the trade-off is never getting an international trophy
Crypto_816 [#27]thats a stupid mindset to have. Making a finals in it self is amazing. sure winning it would be the best and nothing would compare but being in the finals automatically means you are a top 2 in the world. You cant be top 2 in the world if your "Playstyle is bad " as the people say it is. Whats bad isnt their playstyle but their map and agent pool.
But losing 2 finals whilst having double map veto is generational choking
shrike- [#15]and? this doesn't change the fact that prx will legitimately never win an international trophy with how they play. this is a fact.
ion even know how nrg plays tbf, if edg can win champs, the sky's the limit
CarnageBTC [#30]But losing 2 finals whilst having double map veto is generational choking
Agreed Again my point stands their Map pool is one of the weakest in the league they got maybe 2-3 maps that they are good at.
shrike- [#28]yeah they dominated because they could outaim everyone
look at what happens when they face teams that 1) can actually shoot back and 2) have a much better game plan than them, they completely crumble
then running completely insane comps just to w key into site and hope to click heads isn’t going to win them a championship. sure it’s fun to watch, and it’ll gain them a lot of fans, but the trade-off is never getting an international trophy
If that was the case they would've never gotten even close to winning against high level teams. PRX this year seemed to have run out of strats because of their limited agent pool. Otherwise they had some of the best coordinated strats etc.
Crypto_816 [#32]Agreed Again my point stands their Map pool is one of the weakest in the league they got maybe 2-3 maps that they are good at.
true they will never win an international bo5 ever .... same goes for edg, if they didnt have the map veto advantage, they would have lost against TH
omg, learn ascent for fuck sake ... its not leaving the map pool ever... its been 4 years
CarnageBTC [#34]true they will never win an international bo5 ever .... same goes for edg, if they didnt have the map veto advantage, they would have lost against TH
omg, learn ascent for fuck sake ... its not leaving the map pool ever... its been 4 years
I do think PRX have a chance most of their map pool problems stem from their very limited agent pool on both jjingg and something and their role clash. Best thing they can do is have d4vai and forskaen flex and make something perma 2nd entry/ init with jinggg learning jett, neon and some kayo
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