SEN has had the hardest year

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yukky

Had to go through LOUD, 100t, LEV, NRG for Kickoff and won
Beat both EU teams at Madrid Swiss Stage and basically eliminated them
Destroyed favorites PRX 3-1 and beat GenG in Madrid final despite having worse map pool & no map ban advantage
Fell off Split 2, usually hard to recover form (look at NRG)
Clutched Champs by points, voted most overrated team
Went through group of death and eliminated favorites GenG
Beat DRX convincingly
Beat EU first seed despite just loosing to EDG
Guaranteed Top 4

I don’t think another team could have done this

SEN is clearly one of the top 3 teams this year, and if they make finals I would argue that they were the best team this year

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Agreed.

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Ngl if SEN wins Champs theyre the best team of the year

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of all time

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chill jawn

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jawn

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if the only team in val history that wins both masters and champions in a year isn't the greatest then that conversation is unserious

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People will hate to admit it, but statistics wise they will be the greatest yet, no one has had the same achievements would have in one year

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lxolotl

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u might actually be kinda right tho since no other team has had such success

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K4ziuHa

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Wtf are you on about sen wasn't even at Shanghai

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thats irrelevant, 1 masters and 1 champs in a year would make them the best team of all time

no other team has ever done that

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the phrasing was a little weird. they didn't mean that they won both masters tournaments and then also champs. They meant they would be the first team to win both a masters tournament and also champs in a single season.

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Ardiss would be disappointed

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Spitting facts

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jawn

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thank you bigtiddymilf

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well yeah 3 time periods we were the best while teams only got 1 and FNC had 2

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chill

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i love 2022 sen they were the peak valorant team

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lowkey

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Best team of all time coz no other team has won masters and champs in the same year. And yes fs i am biased.

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Mickey mouse masters doesn't count though

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KingJark

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if so mickey your team should have won?

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stfu cunt.

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fnatic still the best team of all time, but it's hella close and if sen win another masters after winning champs then I would give it to sen

oops wrong reply, it was supposed to be for the reply above

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Fnatic has won one masters and lock in?

They are no where close to the best team of all time talk lol…???????????????

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you are just retarded and are probably baiting.

but best team of all time isnt just about the number of trophies. it is about the team that has been a top team/good team for most of the time and also has trophies.

FNATIC is still the best team of all time even if SEN wins champs.
my ranking even if SEN wins champs for best teams of all time:

FNATIC
LOUD
ENVY/OPTIC/NRG
SENTINELS

if SEN win again, or just have even a decent year unlike their horrendous 2022 and 2023, then SEN becomes #1

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if trophies arent as highy weighted then id swap Loud and Fnatic

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sentinelmain377

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?????????

FNATIC (2nd, N/A, 5th-8th) >>>>>>>> LOUD (didn’t exist) in 2021

LOUD (2nd, 11th-12th, 1st) > FNATIC (11th-12th, 4th, 5th-6th) in 2022

FNATIC (1st, 1st, 4th) > LOUD (2nd, 7th-8th, 3rd) in 2023

FNATIC (N/A, 7th-8th, 5th-6th) > LOUD (4th, N/A, N/A) in 2024

How is Loud > Fnatic lmao???🤣

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fnatic does have the best prime. too bad they didn’t peak during champs.

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If SEN win champs.. SEN are the best team of all time unfortunately. FNC will always be the most dominant team of all time. But SEN are the best team of all time.

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disappointment of a team peaking in a mid year after winning a filler tournament right before failing to qualify for Shanghai, you’re a funny person

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ct_fd_str

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EvIL GeNIusES

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yukky

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https://www.vlr.gg/393132/sen-is-one-of-na-s-biggest-failures

nice try buddy

if eg was so great they should’ve been here today 🙏🙏

they’re an embarrassment for NA franchising 😭😭

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yeah they kinda let China finish top 3 for the first time ever, probably the biggest embarrassment my region had to go through since nrg vs blg. champs EG dissolved but they still remain to be NA’s greatest accomplishment :D

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Yo what did china do to you 💀 why you butthurt about them winning. Though EG's run was pretty cool. Though I wouldn't say it's NA's greatest accomplishment.

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Maybe one of the greatest but the greatest I’m doubting a bit

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EG as NA's greatest accomplishment. actually dying. LOL

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cook king

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nihso

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SEN are just the Main Characters and want to make it entertaining

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Unfortunately everything you said is realistically true because botnatic let it happen, embarrassing team.

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yukky

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there’s an anchor on the fnatic team but people don’t like to hear it…

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hetaW

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Gen.G is the best team this year no matter what happens imo, reached every possible GF other than Champions ofc. Sentinels year got ruined between Madrid and Champions, impressive if they win but cant be the best team this year if you dont reach all internationals imo.

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if sen wins champs somehow...that should place them above GenG imo

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What a stupid take. Champs is the highlight of the year and if Sen wins they would be the only team to win a masters + Champs how is Geng above them even if they win when they didn't even make it past the group on the Biggest stage of them all

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hetaW

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Champs is the highlight of the year because its the most money and its the end of the competitive season with loads of advertisement compared to Madrid/Shanghai, other than that it's not anymore special than a regular international. SEN not making every international for me brings them down, for me GenG is above any team this year because they made every international + every grand final possible, other than champs. While SEN while winning KickOff and Madrid (Madrid ending in March), struggled heavily against similiar skilled teams in regular season, didnt make stage 1 playoffs, lost 1st game in stage 2 playoffs and made Champs based on a win vs 100T in April (3-4 months before champs) due to h2h rules iirc. For sure a good year especially if they win Champs aswell, but i value consistency over highs and Gen.G have been more consistent

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1.) Had to go through LOUD, 100t, LEV, NRG for Kickoff and won - LEV, NRG had 0 synergy at this point. 100T were not a top team yet. Loud were good tho
2.) Beat both EU teams at Madrid Swiss Stage and basically eliminated them - both eu teams were rookie squads that together only beat an extremely weak fpx
3.) Destroyed favorites PRX 3-1 and beat GenG in Madrid final despite having worse map pool & no map ban advantage - True
4.) Fell off Split 2, usually hard to recover form (look at NRG) - fell off at split 1 actually, split 2 they did ok
5.) Clutched Champs by points, voted most overrated team - qualifying through champ points is an easier overall run
6.) Went through group of death and eliminated favorites GenG - True
7.) Beat DRX convincingly - True
8.) Beat EU first seed despite just loosing to EDG - True
9.) Guaranteed Top 4 - True
10.) I don’t think another team could have done this - not true
11.) SEN is clearly one of the top 3 teams this year - winning a trophy makes you top 3 by default
12.) and if they make finals I would argue that they were the best team this year. - GenG have better achievements, not winning split 1 or 2 and not making an international event isnt a dominant showing. Heretics and EDG are up there if they win champs.

if sen win champs, they will be the best team this year yes.

If sen win champs:
1) SEN 2) GENG 3) HERETICS
if sen make grandfinals and EDG win champs:
1.) GENG 2.) SEN 3.) EDG (you can argue edg > sen)
if sen dont make grandfinals then they cannot be 2 or above unless LEV win champ

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Prx were not Madrid favourites tho, they were expected to go out in Swiss stage

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GambleNats

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debatable many had them going far, sen I would say were the madrid favourites

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yukky

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Heretics & SEN can’t both make GF btw

It literally leaves the best team year up to GenG & SEN if SEN make GF

1.) The point was that every other team came from a fresh slate, while SEN had been playing in numerous tourneys, giving other teams plenty of VODS and time to prepare against SEN.
2.) Rookie or not they were the best that EMEA sent and got beaten , this was also a kind of new SEN team at that point
3.) Yeah
4.) Yeah
5.) Is it? Required SEN to win madrid & kickoff and then keep up a somewhat decent form during the season. They were rewarded for being a better consistent team.
6.) Yeah
7.) Yeah
8.) Yeah
9.) Yeah
10.) I really don’t think another team could have
11.) Yeah
12.) SEN #1

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0.) True, didnt realise that.
1.) Beating rookie teams that cant find success means your run was easier. I would rather have extra vods than less practice any day
2.) if heretics or karmine won a game against a competent team in madrid (literally anyone but fpx), I would agree .
5,) yeah, as sen dont need to have the most champ points in the league to go on, sen also dont need to win in playoffs

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You made me realize that Sen has played against all the other 1st seeds aside from Americas this tourney, and sent 2 of them (GenG and Fnatic) home.

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GambleNats

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true but seeding historically doesnt matter

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dort

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S tier dickriding holy shit you need some type of award for this

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yukky

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This is called being a fan of a team 🙏🙏🙏

I’m not a reactionary or a baiter fan

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YamiS

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SEN management should get an award or some for getting johnqt and zellsis. i expected sen to be better than last year, but i wasn’t expecting this tupe of resurgence. props to the management.

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Put some respect on my boys! They worked harder than any team this year and they deserve the success after the rough last year

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least delusional pakistani

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Heretics and GenG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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dk why people disagree with th, they legit played with a different roster every event

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Had to go through LOUD, 100t, LEV, NRG for Kickoff and won

bro snuck in 100t