The mongolz in VCJ

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IonlywatchvcjXD

Apparently the mongolz aren't allowed to play in VCJ because they missed the basic rule of" minimum 3 japanese " roster.

Context: the mongolz won premier playoff in vcj

https://x.com/consz9/status/1823959747944480923?t=7tQ2Y5yKIuPAgEAqEmQxOw&s=19

On one hand I feel bad for them, on the other hand why didn't you read the rules in the first place 😂.

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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Mongolia should have their own Tier 2 circuit bruh 💀💀💀💀

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they would honestly win every ascension LAN, gotta keep them nerfed

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you're right lol

Mongolia has insane aimers

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Feels bad

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There's 6 members in mongolz and none of them bothered to read the rules 😅

Look, i feel bad for them but a part of me is also relieved.

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I really really really really hope this means none of the VCJ teams get relegated (if REJECT gets relegated I'm throwing hands)

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Wdym by relegated?

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cloudberry

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Isn't promotion/relegation a thing?

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Oh you mean advanced phase. The thing is it's bound for next week but none of the teams ( RC, Nth, SZ and Varrel ( disbanded)) even made roster changes yet. Unless they have formed a team prior to their announcement I think the competition in sp3 will be a bit weaker

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VARREL DISBANDED!?

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Yeah, they left valorant entirely , Blackwiz went to Noez Foxx and there's o new about the rest.

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:(

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thats sad

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damn, where else were they supposed to play?

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hktw

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Aayan

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would they not have run into the same problem? I have no clue how their circuits work

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kobolds are alr in the vcl so dont think so

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HK/TW has the same "3 / 5 players" restriction

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Then how did kobolds managed to play in hktw despite them being all Mongolian??

Did riot changed the rule after sp2??

If so this is stupid miscommunication by riot

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mongolians are allowed to play in hktw they're just not included in the name

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But i thought they are listed on turkiye?

Basing on what ardy said. It seems like the while sp2 is happening mongolz and kobolds happened and riot was unprepared, that's why kobolds and mongolz are allowed to play . But somehow the rules change in sp3, no one fucking told mongolz, this has to be incompetence on both riot and riot jp

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alright so maybe thats just mismanagement by hktw organizer? sounds like riot jp is doing the right thing by upholding the rules

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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I think they need to open a new region that's mongolia + east russia. But for politics sake just name them as VCL Mongolia

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VCL North Asia (include the stans)

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actually VCL central asia (or north as you propose) would help a lot, mongolia can be in, but it also gives pakistan a place in a leauge

issues with pakistan in valorant, it would fix the issue of basically forcing any pk players of having to play as imports in MENA, because they can't play in SA

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Oh right central Asia is a thing

But yeah I 100% agree

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Great idea bro!

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riot should either just let them compete or give them a fucking region to compete in, fucking ridiculous from them for this

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Nah bro because that's unfair to Scarz who literally had to abuse a loophole in the import rules. I'll put my takes further wait.

This situation has to be because of bad miscommunication, Riot Jp failed to inform Mongolz the risk of playing in Jp premier, but at the same time Mongolz ain't this indie org who just touched esports for the first time , For scarz roster prior to disbandment , Fadezis had to find the rules that would allow Lumo and TIxx to play while Yotaa and Yoshii are in the team. Mongolz failed their job and so did Riot Jp

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so basically allow mongolian valorant to not be represented... tf???

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Tell that to Jake Sin who didn't want to create a new region just for them . besides, it's VCJ and the J is "Japan", I don't get what do you mean by representation when none of the imports are supposed to be there in the first place, japan has more than enough imports and the situation is bad that it could ruin the scene in the long run.

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Bro the "create a new region just for them" is so silly, ofc they wont create a region for a bunch of teams, but it's unfair to be then " no team from mongolia anywhere". Rename VCJ for VCJM or some shit idk man

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Yoshiii and Yotaa are japanese

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Yotaa played for EMEA basically his whole life before moving to VCJ. he's Japanese by blood sure, but he ain't local.

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UkieVAL

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if hes japanese then it doesnt matter, you turned this from an argument to fucking racism so quick

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Huh??? how is this Racism??? He never touched the server prior to playing in VCJ. That's it ok nothing more nothing less. I basicallysaid that Yotaa is Japanese and you're calling me racist? Do you want me to call Yotaa Chinese instead?

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"when none of the imports are supposed to be there in the first place" and "he's Japanese by blood sure, but he ain't local." seem pretty racist icl

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He's not local bro, he played in the french scene. He's local to the french. it''s not racism .
When your league has less than 70% local players while everyone else is calling local players shit in the league I loved. YEah my opinion about imports ain't gonna be so pretty . But it's not racist for sure.

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bro his main nationality is fucking japanese

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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I FUCKING KNOW BRO. Look, Yotaa has been playing in the french region for so long . He's recognized by EMEA region as a local there. And then he went to Japan and all of a sudden he's a Japanese player??? So you're a VCJ player and VCL France player at the same time?? The rule exists across pacific man. When he comes back to france he will be considered an import.

You can't pull "racist" card onto everything man istg

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they already have a region, a full mongolian team can play in hktw with no restrictions. these guys just chose to play in vcj instead for some reason and are now dealing with the consequences.

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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Idk about that , cuz Mongolia are listed on turkiye which was stupid in on itself.

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maybe they changed it but since kobolds were in hktw i thought that was the rule

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that doesnt exist anymore tho, its now merged with all the other league, and no guarantee riot will let them in there anyway

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ah right, i forgot that riot merged half of pacific challengers. before that they were allowed tho.

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Just shows how shit the Japanese region is, they can’t even accept the fact that a foreign Team gaps their shit players

Please save Mongolia

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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The rules are there in the first place , blaming everything onto Japan is just unfair.

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they are not letting them in because they afraid JP TEAMS are getting exposed. since numbers is the only thing worth to talking about in this region.

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IonlywatchvcjXD

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That numbers is saving the region in the long run. Besides the rules are there in the first place, Scarz got a lot of shit for the bullshit they pulled in sp2, I don't see why Mongolz should get a preferential treatment

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HK/TW also has the same rule - The team was told initially that these rules don't apply for premier promotion / relegation slots.

Riot also never reached out after The MongolZ team won Premier Ep 8 act 3 - so the only option was to compete again until getting noticed.

Right now, we're the only team to have won premier 2 acts in a row.

Officially our Challengers league region is Türkiye. But how are mongolian players expected to compete at over 130ms ping, on a server that they don't even have access to.

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Then this is hugely riot jp's and riot's fault.

It's mishap at best and incompetent at worse.

Did riot pacific not tell you guys about the rule change? I think these kinds of rules should be announced by riot regardless on its significance

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i feel bad for them but not reading the rules are there fault so i cant defend them. been a fan since cs so kinda sad for them not allowed because of a miss

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ArdyIRL

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Has nothing to do with not reading the rules.

There is no region for Mongolia. What server should a Mongolian team compete in? TW / HK has the same rule for 3 / 5 players having residency. But there is no server for Mongolia.

When you make a Valorant account in Mongolia, the premier league it places you in automatically is JP

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the whole thing about not reading the rule is that Mongolia doesn't really have a league they can participate in, so the rule is pretty much saying "no team from this country anywhere in the VCL".

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its kinda bs that riot wants them competing in turkey servers. i hope it gets sorted out

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Riot scared because mongolia is the best talent producer that would hinder JP or CHN growth