Org that accept to invest in T2 should be partnered and safe from relegation.
In that scenario, maybe every T2 should go to 16 team like in APAC.
This offer stand only for the first 6 or 8 structure that accept this offer.
2 group of 8, one group is partnered team safe from relegation, 2nd group is the group of promoted team that bottom 3 is relegated, top 3 of each group go to PO
Have 15 partner teams, and let other 5 teams qualify through challengers
The challengers teams qualify through a 10 team tournament, and the top 5 qualifies to VCT
After champions, the 5 teams that qualified to VCT through challengers, now face 5 new teams, and the cycle repeats every year
Of course, this would be easier if Riot didn't obligate orgs to relocate, but they already make challengers teams relocate only to play for a year, so
Hobbit [#3]Have 15 partner teams, and let other 5 teams qualify through challengers
The challengers teams qualify through a 10 team tournament, and the top 5 qualifies to VCT
After champions, the 5 teams that qualified to VCT through challengers, now face 5 new teams, and the cycle repeats every year
Of course, this would be easier if Riot didn't obligate orgs to relocate, but they already make challengers teams relocate only to play for a year, so
challengers teams dont have to relocate, everything is online (except for LANs obv)
Hobbit [#3]Have 15 partner teams, and let other 5 teams qualify through challengers
The challengers teams qualify through a 10 team tournament, and the top 5 qualifies to VCT
After champions, the 5 teams that qualified to VCT through challengers, now face 5 new teams, and the cycle repeats every year
Of course, this would be easier if Riot didn't obligate orgs to relocate, but they already make challengers teams relocate only to play for a year, so
You want 80 teams in tier 1??
IonlywatchvcjXD [#2]I don't quite like this tbh, it give orgs too much leverage as if they haven't already. (Opinion)
I feel that riot should focus more on how to get how to attract more people to watch tier 2 .
Bring clouted org in T2 by giving them certitude they will stay forever might bring people in T2
Hobbit [#3]Have 15 partner teams, and let other 5 teams qualify through challengers
The challengers teams qualify through a 10 team tournament, and the top 5 qualifies to VCT
After champions, the 5 teams that qualified to VCT through challengers, now face 5 new teams, and the cycle repeats every year
Of course, this would be easier if Riot didn't obligate orgs to relocate, but they already make challengers teams relocate only to play for a year, so
So a team that won champ may be eliminated and a team that finished last could stay ? I dislike this idea
20 teams is too mush, my dream would be to have 10 partener and 6 ascended
Anguibok [#6]Bring clouted org in T2 by giving them certitude they will stay forever might bring people in T2
That works but clouted orgs can only do so much. When I watch, occasionaly I will get valorant ads, I think the ad content should revolve around vct more than the game tbh
DuD5K1S [#4]challengers teams dont have to relocate, everything is online (except for LANs obv)
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen in some random article about eu challengers that at least 3 of the 5 players in a team have to be living in/based in the region of the league.. so relocate won’t be the right word here but if u wanna play in the dach league u have to be in the dach region etc
teilwal [#10]should allow academy teams
I think they are academy teams for a reason and are not ready for tier 2 yet
Anguibok [#7]So a team that won champ may be eliminated and a team that finished last could stay ? I dislike this idea
20 teams is too mush, my dream would be to have 10 partener and 6 ascended
more teams means more valorant. maybe this would mean one less masters event and just 2 internationals for year
but it would be pretty much like CS
this change is focused on the competition and not the viewers, so fair enough, I guess
and it's the same in the ESL Pro League, doesn't matter if C9 win it, they'll have to qualify through the ranking points
Hobbit [#13]yes, more teams mean more valorant
...well, yeah, but how long would the season have to be? How many games would teams have to play with no rest?
cloudberry [#14]...well, yeah, but how long would the season have to be? How many games would teams have to play with no rest?
4 groups, top 1 qualifies to semis and top 2-3 qualify to knockout rounds
The problem with having many matches with Riot's format is that maybe you have to play 3 games on 6 days, you lose, and you have a 6 month vacation
If the leagues are longer, maybe having 2 internationals per year would be the best for schedules
Maybe the leagues last for 2 or 3 months, and the internationals maybe have less teams
I would imagine that there's a 2 month/1 month in a half of break at the end of the year
Hobbit [#15]4 groups, top 1 qualifies to semis and top 2-3 qualify to knockout rounds
The problem with having many matches with Riot's format is that maybe you have to play 3 games on 6 days, you lose, and you have a 6 month vacation
If the leagues are longer, maybe having 2 internationals per year would be the best for schedules
Maybe the leagues last for 2 or 3 months, and the internationals maybe have less teams
I would imagine that there's a 2 month/1 month in a half of break at the end of the year
Hey, if you can make it work, then I'm all for it. More teams means more opportunities for young talent to shine.
cloudberry [#16]Hey, if you can make it work, then I'm all for it. More teams means more opportunities for young talent to shine.
https://imgur.com/a/cJCSH9B little graphic to make it more visual (pretend like fnc and drx are part of americas)
Hobbit [#18]https://imgur.com/a/cJCSH9B little graphic to make it more visual (pretend like fnc and drx are part of americas)
That makes a ton of sense
Gre4t [#17]Not financially sustainable.
there's 79 teams in franchise of LoL, why can't it be 80 valorant teams? (which only 60 of them are partnered)
Hobbit [#20]there's 79 teams in franchise of LoL, why can't it be 80 valorant teams? (which only 60 of them are partnered)
Because league isn't valorant. League often got a preferential treatment for a good reason.
Hobbit [#12]more teams means more valorant. maybe this would mean one less masters event and just 2 internationals for year
but it would be pretty much like CS
this change is focused on the competition and not the viewers, so fair enough, I guess
and it's the same in the ESL Pro League, doesn't matter if C9 win it, they'll have to qualify through the ranking points
Faria don't want more team for validate reason (more game would just plsit the fanbase and make a burnout), 20 is too mush, 2 ascended team is not enough, 16 is a good compromise because it make easier to make a format for the kickoff, a mix between swiss and double elim would be optimal (you've got 4 team with 1 loose and 3 win after 4 round)
One of my weird dream is to make less round in a side (10 or maybe even 8), for making slightly shorter game and allow more team without up the broadcast time (and allow more BO5, and make soloQ a little bit less, and reduce the number of round for a remontada and give more suspens and many other reason to be fair), but thats just me being weird
teilwal [#10]should allow academy teams
I tend to agree with that, and technically it's now the cage, since a T1 team can have an acadmy team in T2 at least they have 3 women.
Classical T2 teams with 5 man is a more complex subjet, I don't see any problem with them competing in T2, BUT, i'm not 100% sure they should participate to ascention (Or should be release in case they won), in case of a woman team qual the structure should be allowed to keep their GC team, but they should play each other at round 1 to be sure no team will loose on purpose in end of season
Aayan [#23]I like the idea, but wouldn't that just be sort of kicking the can down the road, like then you might have a problem with tier 2 orgs just paycheck stealing, with no incentive for them to create ascension winning rosters
I think in that scenario partenered T2 shouldn't be more helped by Riot more than any T2 roster, because if not... Well the concurrence gonna be distorded
Anywat, if Riot see they do no effort, they might remove their T2 partnership
Not 100% sure a lot of pertenered T2 team will win a lot of money with that to be fair, maybe the reach balance
Hobbit [#20]there's 79 teams in franchise of LoL, why can't it be 80 valorant teams? (which only 60 of them are partnered)
League makes way more revenue. There is a reason Worlds is such a bigger event.
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