Americas 2025:

C9:
-Oxy (duelist)
-Rossy (flex / recon init)
-Mitch (flash init / flex [secondary caller])
-v1c (smokes)
-stellar (sentinel smokes [IGL])

100T:
-Bang (smokes)
-Eeiu (recon init [second caller])
-Asuna (raze/ neon/ flex)
-Cryo (jett / flex)
-Boosto (Gekko / sentinel [IGL])

SEN:
-Verno (initiator)
-Zekken (duelist)
-JohnQT (flex [IGL])
-Tenz (flex)
-Zellsis (flex)

EG:
-Jawgemo (deulist)
-Apoth (sentinel)
-Nature (flash init [IGL])
-Derrek (init / flex)
-gmd (smokes [Secondary caller])

NRG: (with current rumors)
-FNS (init / viper [IGL])
-Ethan (flash init/ flex [secondary caller])
-s0m (smokes)
-yay (sentinel)
-Demon1 (jett / flex)

Loud:
-Pancada (smokes)
-nzr (init [IGL])
-Tuyz (jett / flex)
-Less (sentinel / viper)
-Cuanzin (flash init)

KRU Esports:
-Saadhak (recon init / flex [IGL])
-Keznit (duelist)
-Melser (smokes)
-heat (flash init / flex)
-Shyy (sentinel [secondary caller])

Leviathan keep the roster

G2- if they bomb out of playoff somehow
-valyn (smokes [IGL])
-1leaf (sentinel)
-JonahP (flex [secondary caller])
-trent (init)
-mada (duelist)

I am not well versed enough to make changed to FURIA or MiBR so let me know

Verno to C9 instead of Stellar
Mitch IGL
Sacy stays at SEN

why are people so obsessed with getting rid of sacy? makes no sense to me

look at the current player ratings for champs. Disrespect to my bald goat will not be tolerated.

IceRapt0r1 [#3]

why are people so obsessed with getting rid of sacy? makes no sense to me

not to say sacy is bad but two years on a team to consistently bottom frag is not a good look for a man with a champions and a masters

ct_fd_str [#2]

Verno to C9 instead of Stellar
Mitch IGL
Sacy stays at SEN

not trying to ruin my boy verno with c9

_Esdeath_ [#4]

look at the current player ratings for champs. Disrespect to my bald goat will not be tolerated.

look at the rest of the games played sacy played horribly this year - champs

_Esdeath_ [#4]

look at the current player ratings for champs. Disrespect to my bald goat will not be tolerated.

yeah do not disrespect my favorite kiwi head

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#5]

not to say sacy is bad but two years on a team to consistently bottom frag is not a good look for a man with a champions and a masters

He plays good when it matters the most. He’s the second best rated player in the world currently.

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#5]

not to say sacy is bad but two years on a team to consistently bottom frag is not a good look for a man with a champions and a masters

did sacy changed his role to Duelist?

Saadhak isn't leaving LOUD for KRU, especially with Keznit on the line

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#6]

not trying to ruin my boy verno with c9

? he not gonnna get ruined at c9 lol
your c9 looks fine

The absence of Ethan (2023's best initiator in Americas, and NRG's most consistent player in 2024 despite a failing roster) is astounding

Jarvuy [#9]

He plays good when it matters the most. He’s the second best rated player in the world currently.

u need to realise that sen can't just bank on the fact that sacy might just turn up to champs 2022 form every game especially when the numbers don't support it. He is a good player just has more lows then he does highs

Verno is NOT better than Sacy 😭👎 never disrespect Sacy like that again 💀

fatdaddy [#13]

The absence of Ethan (2023's best initiator in Americas, and NRG's most consistent player in 2024 despite a failing roster) is astounding

I know it's just on the basis of what I can see from back channels nothing more and this is purely my take on those rumors not to say this all will happen

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#16]

I know it's just on the basis of what I can see from back channels nothing more and this is purely my take on those rumors not to say this all will happen

I'm actually down with it though, if m80 make franchising and swap in Ethan for nismo

fatdaddy [#13]

The absence of Ethan (2023's best initiator in Americas, and NRG's most consistent player in 2024 despite a failing roster) is astounding

-crashies
+Ethan

also seven instead of gmd

sen fans can't make up their mind one day get rid of sacy and now that he turned up in champs omg my bald daddy sacy brother sen needs someone that is stable and plays well consistently sacy is a really good player he is just not consistent

ct_fd_str [#18]

-crashies
+Ethan

this would be interesting

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#20]

sen fans can't make up their mind one day get rid of sacy and now that he turned up in champs omg my bald daddy sacy brother sen needs someone that is stable and plays well consistently sacy is a really good player he is just not consistent

cmon man
his utility is reallly good
Gustavo is fineee

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#21]

this would be interesting

that would be better
Ethan 2nd caller and more flexible
crashies.... just washed

Kru saadhak will NEVER happen

ct_fd_str [#22]

cmon man
his utility is reallly good
Gustavo is fineee

brother he made so many mistakes, don't get me wrong I like sen I have no issue with it its just seeing sacy a decorated player making the most minute stupid mistakes every game throughout the regular season is not it.

Jarvuy [#9]

He plays good when it matters the most. He’s the second best rated player in the world currently.

I don't understand that. How the hell is he 2nd highest rated player in champs right now.

hunkkz [#24]

Kru saadhak will NEVER happen

theoretically

Danfra [#10]

did sacy changed his role to Duelist?

he probably had the most FDs in the season

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#5]

not to say sacy is bad but two years on a team to consistently bottom frag is not a good look for a man with a champions and a masters

u dk the value that sacy brings to the team when his util is on of the best in the world, u cant say sacy is not good enough just by looking at the stats, yall just looking at the numbers and talking non-sense

shaaidem [#29]

u dk the value that sacy brings to the team when his util is on of the best in the world, u cant say sacy is not good enough just by looking at the stats, yall just looking at the numbers and talking non-sense

on average in the regular season Sacy's KAST has been on the lower end for the team which is a decent indicator for how his util usage was and on average other than zekken who generally would have a high FD then Sacy still had a shit ton more FKs and sacy was always either highest with FDs or second so idk the numbers really do speak for themselves. He may bring more to the team but in game until champs he wasn't really doing all that much

Why is it always -sacy and never anybody else?
Why is it never that inconsistent omen 1 trick?
Why is it never that one jett oper that can't hit a shot during important matches?

I don't get it. 😪

sussybaka [#31]

Why is it always -sacy and never anybody else?
Why is it never that inconsistent omen 1 trick?
Why is it never that one jett oper that can't hit a shot during important matches?

I don't get it. 😪

purely looking at FDs, KAST and KDA sacy overall till champs was the one not performing and also having seen the matches sacy was not playing like the top player he should be

cioccolat [#11]

Saadhak isn't leaving LOUD for KRU, especially with Keznit on the line

He was supporting KRU in playoffs not so long ago lol, Less is the one that has an issue with Keznit not him

reaper_rega08 [#26]

I don't understand that. How the hell is he 2nd highest rated player in champs right now.

Champs is his home ground I guess

Excuse me? We're dropping Sacy, Saadhak, icy, AND moose from their teams?

who would be nrg's sova player surely you are not putting fns on sova

cioccolat [#11]

Saadhak isn't leaving LOUD for KRU, especially with Keznit on the line

Bro, that keznit hate only exists in br crowd's mind, players know it's bs. He has a great relationship with most of them. And he had issues with Less for way different reasons you may think (basically some ego fight in ranked).
I doubt saadhak would leave BR though, he has expressed many times that BR gave him the life he wanted (job, wife, family, friends, etc..) it would be surprising if he leaves the br org sphere.

keeping apoth and nature but dropping supamen (who was their second best player) for gmd of all people? you’re playing pretend with pros and doing bizarre things like giving C9 two igls instead of having stellar go to EG

cloudberry [#35]

Excuse me? We're dropping Sacy, Saadhak, icy, AND moose from their teams?

It's just a massive hypothetical world with rosters I think would work doesn't mean anything

StillHD [#38]

keeping apoth and nature but dropping supamen (who was their second best player) for gmd of all people? you’re playing pretend with pros and doing bizarre things like giving C9 two igls instead of having stellar go to EG

Nature is a fine IGL and was a decent fragger for EG and Apoth has had a stupid amount of impact with his lurks and just his mechanical ability. Stellar too is a fine IGL who is the sole reason for deadlock becoming viable in the pro scene and overall a decent player, mitch wasn't always IGL and was phenomenal before IGLing and had a dip in form not by a lot but it was there. Stellar being on that IGL role allows mitch to have a little more room to be a great flex player and frag out. I'm not playing pretend with pros calm urself

bronnyjames_ [#36]

who would be nrg's sova player surely you are not putting fns on sova

They have enough players that can flex around

Sacy and Lakia are one of the same. zekken and t3xture can't frag when the enemies aren't scanned,blind,stunned or anything. You are braindead to think sacy should be dropped even after taking SEN to Champs Playoffs.

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#41]

They have enough players that can flex around

Like PRX!!! oh wait

catNmouse [#43]

Like PRX!!! oh wait

The issue with PRX is low confidence/ no strategies / lack of game philosophy / bad comps not flexibility

nihso [#42]

Sacy and Lakia are one of the same. zekken and t3xture can't frag when the enemies aren't scanned,blind,stunned or anything. You are braindead to think sacy should be dropped even after taking SEN to Champs Playoffs.

Bro if u look at the stats before champs sacy was the weak link, in champs sacy somehow finds his form every time but otherwise he is the weak link if he stays on the team next season and starts bottom fragging again I can guarantee u will go from dick riding him to creating 300 -sacy threads.

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#44]

The issue with PRX is low confidence/ no strategies / lack of game philosophy / bad comps not flexibility

None of them can play sova for their lives lol

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#45]

Bro if u look at the stats before champs sacy was the weak link, in champs sacy somehow finds his form every time but otherwise he is the weak link if he stays on the team next season and starts bottom fragging again I can guarantee u will go from dick riding him to creating 300 -sacy threads.

you are genuinely so braindead, verno is not allat and sacy is literally the best rated player on his team in champs (the tournament that matters the most!)

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#39]

It's just a massive hypothetical world with rosters I think would work doesn't mean anything

I guess that's fair

catNmouse [#46]

None of them can play sova for their lives lol

f0rsakeN and d4v41 can both play Sova, plus mindfreak has played it before in case neither of them is playing it

i’m guessing s0m plays raze for nrg??

Shuyaa [#50]

i’m guessing s0m plays raze for nrg??

that would be the general consensus yes

IceRapt0r1 [#3]

why are people so obsessed with getting rid of sacy? makes no sense to me

sen haters that think they gm

fatdaddy [#17]

I'm actually down with it though, if m80 make franchising and swap in Ethan for nismo

I’m assuming that’s cause Nismo has said he doesn’t want to be outside of T2? IK he said that at one point cause he wants to stay with his family and being on M80 allows him to. If it’s cause of skill I’m mad at you.

Furia:

Mwzera
Fizzy (havoc)
cortezia
nzr
xand

That would be what I would like, but it probably won't happen

If SEN were to get rid of Sacy why Verno? If they got N4RRATE it would solve most of the problems. Need a good Jett for Jett maps, N4RRATE and zekken can play initiator on those maps being Skye and Sova. Every other map N4RRATE initiator and zekken duelist.
If this were to happen LEV would probably go -Mazino or -C0M and Sacy joins them.
Don’t hate this though.

Vii79 [#54]

Furia:

Mwzera
Fizzy (havoc)
cortezia
nzr
xand

That would be what I would like, but it probably won't happen

Did havoc change his IGN?

SomeoneLikeU [#55]

If SEN were to get rid of Sacy why Verno? If they got N4RRATE it would solve most of the problems. Need a good Jett for Jett maps, N4RRATE and zekken can play initiator on those maps being Skye and Sova. Every other map N4RRATE initiator and zekken duelist.
If this were to happen LEV would probably go -Mazino or -C0M and Sacy joins them.
Don’t hate this though.

yeah narrate would be perfect if we got rid of sacy, still i think we shld keep sacy

IceRapt0r1 [#3]

why are people so obsessed with getting rid of sacy? makes no sense to me

never understood where the sacy hate is coming from. vlr is just filled with silver bums

SunnyFromVLR [#58]

never understood where the sacy hate is coming from. vlr is just filled with silver bums

Don't hate the guy, still think he's decent, just think there are better options out there but that's just my opinion I could be wrong. Hu just hasn't had the best year statistically

SunnyFromVLR [#58]

never understood where the sacy hate is coming from. vlr is just filled with silver bums

Just to clarify what I mean by statistically I am not talking about KDA alone I also look at other stats and I have seen all the Americas games too

reaper_rega08 [#26]

I don't understand that. How the hell is he 2nd highest rated player in champs right now.

He is just the goat

IceRapt0r1 [#57]

yeah narrate would be perfect if we got rid of sacy, still i think we shld keep sacy

I completely agree. In a dream world we would get aspas and Zellsis or TenZ would go to 6th man or CC.

SomeoneLikeU [#56]

Did havoc change his IGN?

No, Fizzy is another player who plays as sentinel that I would like to see join the team

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#7]

look at the rest of the games played sacy played horribly this year - champs

thats just not true tho

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#30]

on average in the regular season Sacy's KAST has been on the lower end for the team which is a decent indicator for how his util usage was and on average other than zekken who generally would have a high FD then Sacy still had a shit ton more FKs and sacy was always either highest with FDs or second so idk the numbers really do speak for themselves. He may bring more to the team but in game until champs he wasn't really doing all that much

u re still just talking abt numbers which shows how litle u understand high level valorant

shaaidem [#65]

u re still just talking abt numbers which shows how litle u understand high level valorant

you are possibly one of the more delusional people I have ever seen on this site

you keep sacy, even if he does bad in regular season, who cares? he shows up when it matters like rn in champs and on icebox against GENG he was cooking. and plus his util is one of the best in the game. valorant is not csgo there's util involved to, and that's how he helps the team

aquaa018 [#67]

you keep sacy, even if he does bad in regular season, who cares? he shows up when it matters like rn in champs and on icebox against GENG he was cooking. and plus his util is one of the best in the game. valorant is not csgo there's util involved to, and that's how he helps the team

look man it's just my opinion you are allowed to disagree with it it's all good

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#68]

look man it's just my opinion you are allowed to disagree with it it's all good

I am also stating my opinion not trying to argue :D im just saying everyone undervalues sacy, but I could agree with the zellsis part, but nobody would keep them hype or anything to tell them that they can still comeback

that c9 roster and sen change are atrocious

Hobbit [#70]

that c9 roster and sen change are atrocious

I just changed one player out on SEN and the c9 roster is just an opinion lmao

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#71]

I just changed one player out on SEN and the c9 roster is just an opinion lmao

The C9 roster is atrocious because they lack a LOT of firepower

And I don't think that Immi wants 2 IGLs on the team

How many years without achieving anything is 100T gonna run it back?

Mortadelo [#73]

How many years without achieving anything is 100T gonna run it back?

realistically even if we want change. I just don't see it happening man it hurts ideally what I would wanna see is this:

Skuba / Bang
Cryo
Boostio
Dawgemo/Reduxx
Eeiu

Even then 100T improved a lot. we can be somewhat hopeful, maybe get a performance coach to work on the players mentals so cryo, asuna and bang can play more consistently but idk

SnorlaxEnjoyer [#74]

realistically even if we want change. I just don't see it happening man it hurts ideally what I would wanna see is this:

Skuba / Bang
Cryo
Boostio
Dawgemo/Reduxx
Eeiu

Even then 100T improved a lot. we can be somewhat hopeful, maybe get a performance coach to work on the players mentals so cryo, asuna and bang can play more consistently but idk

It’s a clear case of all player being similarly good, and neither deserves to be dropped. But it’s also clear what they have is not enough so changes are hard, but necessary