OG SEN vs New SEN

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sheahhhh

Recently ran into discourse about this topic so needed the VLR opinion

Which team is better as a combination of hype, aura, personality combos, watchability, uncensoreds, skill ceilings
for reference, the outlined teams will be:

OG: Sick, Dapr, Tenz/SAnaatra, Shahzam, Zombs (RAWKASS if u like him idk)

New: JohnQt, Zellsis, Zekken, Sacy, Tenz, (caplan, drewspark🤮)

Personally, OG team negates in every aspect
post when you started watching valorant esports as well, dont need new gen sen fans dick riding this cringe ahh team without knowing peak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C5ySdxnFNU

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Harapan845

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i personally think the new sen team is better

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sheahhhh

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u watched in 2021?

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Harapan845

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yea i just think that the game has evolved so much that they would be beaten

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sheahhhh

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its vibes and personalities included

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Harapan845

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that's why I said better. is the vibes in hindsight like shazam drama etc or from then

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Harapan845

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also as you can probaly tell by my flag I don't know much about NA personalities

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sheahhhh

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yeah i get it, being an NA fan for SEN at the time was great, their comm videos were so peak, the chemistry was insane

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catNmouse

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new one clears

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sheahhhh

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when did u start watching

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jackb2016

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i think we should be more concerned that he has 2192 posts in 23 days

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bronzil_enjoyer

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bro is gonna beat assgamer

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catNmouse

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2022

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sheahhhh

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bro LMAO, u dont even know SEN peak ofc u gonna say the new one im dead

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catNmouse

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shahzam lost all his aura after getting into drama and zombs stopped being funny after he got benched for kanpeki

the old roster would lose all their games hence losing their hype lol

for the time they lasted from 2021 til 2022 watching them trash talk vs g2 was hype asf

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sheahhhh

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u just said u started watching in 2022, ur opinion cant be taken seriously

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pugboy

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new SEN clears stfu

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sheahhhh

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2022 fan spotted

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pugboy

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been watching since first masters 2021 lil bro

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sheahhhh

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sure pal, anyone who did would take OG sen

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pugboy

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so ur delusional dapr was hilarious obviously and I love zombs and sick but they dont compare to zellsis and zekken in the slightest I was never the biggest fan of shaz so maybe thats why I like the new team more but thats just my opinion more real energy on this team and TenZ actually feels like a real human being on the new SEN he used to lowkey be a robot didnt talk much it felt

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jackb2016

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SEN with Kanpeki clears both

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sheahhhh

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top 5 worst decisions by org

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why is drewspark catching strays what did he do

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YamiS

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i think its cuz he wore a skirt to the match. he is just a hater and not a supporter.

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doomvor

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depends on the meta and if they keep their form

TenZ was unmatched in those early days

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Idoski

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By a mile the new team

They have way better chemistry and watchability. They also are just inherently better at the game because theyve been playing for longer. Coaches also add a ton of value to the team that 2021 did not have with only Shazam.

2021 SEN was awesome, they went on a crazy streak and the BM was really entertaining from zombs and dapr but it was infant valorant. The meta was running double duelists and hard rushing sites.

(Btw I started watching during NA Challengers 2021)

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sheahhhh

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in terms of skill u will say the same about sen in 3 years, it should be relative to the time and OG sen had 2 masters

in terms of vibes, i cant agree that new sen is better, its just cringe zellsis and a bunch of boring drones like sacy, tenz, and zekken

the OG team was just the best chemistry ive ever seen in gaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C5ySdxnFNU

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You say cringe zellsis and a bunch of drones but if you watch the actual videos you can see the vibes they have. Zellsis isnt doing anything more cringe than what 2021 sen was doing back in the day.

As for skill thats not entriely true, id say most of 2022/early 2023 SEN was just an overall downgrade from what they had originally.

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sheahhhh

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wrong, zellsis wasnt cringe on the LCQ SEN roster cause he didnt have to carry the personality of the team

this new team is full of drones so he has to do too much all the time

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nihso

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SAnaatra?

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sheahhhh

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does he know

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crocodilemaniac

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he knows

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zombzino

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old team was the most entertaining group of players imaginable. No modern team has had 5 content stars on the team. not to mention their run was unforgettable and in the moment was crazy.

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jawn

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it's easily 2021 no? zellsis might be an outlier but the new SEN is pretty chill compared to the OG squad

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sheahhhh

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chill and drones, 0 personality so boring, 2021 uncensoreds clears by a mile and a half

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TooCaution_Heartless

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original sens > current sens
if u not blind

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catNmouse

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2023 eg > both of them

watching them get a ton of shit from prx fans after losing to them in upper finals for trash talking and t bagging and coming back from lowers was satisfying to watch

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sheahhhh

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bro if u were watching 2021 Iceland, u wouldnt be saying this, it was so hpye

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espeon

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obviously 2021, but i think the new sen is just more likeable
to a wider range of audiences so i understand why people say new sen

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sussybaka

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sinatraa 1v5 the new sen easily

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nobody___100

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old one, he knows

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koromast

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sen with kanpeki dani and rawkus clears

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Draymond_Green

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tenz's hand was cooked and sick had mental health issues, toughest time as a sen fan and it was vs Optic I think too

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CoCloudy

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OG sen were so much more entertaining lmfao
shaz was actually funny
dapr was farming troll clips in official matches
Tenz was farming enemies and getting nutty clips
zombz x brazil cross over was mad funny
sick's redemption after doing nothing in cs was great to see aswell

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KClaw

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U just saying that cause bro everyone on sen at that time individuallly was a monster and thus they farmed and grazed through the events but now ur new sen don't grazed through everything that's why

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ive been a sen fan since tenz was loaned by c9 after the whole sinatraa drama. 21' clears 24' sen. Old sen felt like villains and they ain't gaf bout no one. I think 21' sen peaked in aura after beating 100t 3-0 right before heading to Berlin. 24' sen has the vibes, especially Madrid but Zellsis is carrying the energy mad hard especially going into champs. 21' sen had Shaz & Dapr who were the "energy guys" but it felt like the whole team could bring the energy any time to whereas now it lwk feels like it's just Zellsis. Zekken's underrated though with energy.

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sheahhhh

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this

they felt like the actual main characters of valorant

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KClaw

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Guys don't argue with this guy here, he's just delusion and filled with memories of old sen, he's stuck in the past and unable to move on to the future