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CHAMPS TEAMS MAP AND PISTOL STATS FOR STAGE 2

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kyro1

MEGA THREAD (ALLAT)
went into every teams map pool (excluding china) to compare them to help with my pick ems, i decided this by the winrate, amount of times played, and who they beat (along with a bit of eye test) thought id share :)
The tiers and what they mean are as follows:
S (would almost certainly beat any team)
A (Consistently beating or has beaten great teams)
B (Solid Coinflip map if playing a team on their skill level)
C (Weak point in the map pool would probably lose unless playing a team on their skill level)
D (would almost certainly lose)

as for pistols its self explanatory i decide to remove some games from the stats because i didn't feel like it would be an accurate way to judge them.
(an example being talon playoff games after secret because they admitted to basically throwing and giving up)

GenG
-Map Pool
S:
A: Ascent, Haven, Lotus
B: Icebox, Bind
C: Sunset
D:
Permas Abyss

29/44 = 65% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol win = 1

Maps Dropped = 5

DRX
-Map Pool
S:
A: Haven
B: Icebox
C: Bind, Abyss, Ascent, Lotus, Sunset
D:
Bans Sunset and Lotus

26/52 = 50% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol = 2

Maps Dropped = 14

Paper Rex
-Map Pool
S:
A: Sunset
B: Lotus, Abyss
C: Icebox, Ascent, Bind
D: Haven
Bans Haven

19/44 = 43% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol win = 3

Maps Dropped = 8

Talon
-Map Pool
S:
A:
B: Lotus, Sunset. Ascent
C: Haven, Icebox, Abyss
D:
No Ban tendencies

16/24 = 67% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol win = 2

Maps Dropped = 5

Leviatan
-Map Pool
S: Icebox
A: Sunset
B: Lotus, Haven, Bind, Ascent
C: Abyss
D:
Bans Lotus

23/46 = 50% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol win = 2

Maps Dropped = 5

G2
-Map Pool
S: Bind
A: Icebox
B: Haven, Lotus, Abyss
C: Ascent
D:
Bans Sunset

25/36 = 69% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol win = 3

Maps Dropped = 5


KRU

-Map Pool
S:
A: Sunset
B: Lotus, Haven
C: Icebox, Abyss, Ascent
D:
Permas Bind

24/46 = 52% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol win = 2

Maps Dropped = 13

Sentinels
-Map Pool
S:
A:
B: Lotus, Bind
C: Sunset, Ascent
D: Haven
Permas Icebox

5/20 = 25% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol win = 1

Maps Dropped = 4

FNATIC
-Map Pool
S: Haven
A: Bind, Lotus
B: Sunset
C: Ascent, Icebox
D:
Bans Abyss

22/42 = 52% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol win = 2

Maps Dropped = 4

Vitality
-Map Pool
S:
A: Sunset
B: Bind, Haven, Ascent, Icebox
C: Lotus
D:
Permas Abyss

31/54 = 57% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol win = 5

Maps Dropped = 12

Heretics
-Map Pool
S:
A: Icebox, Sunset
B: Bind, Abyss
C: Haven, Lotus
D:
Permas Ascent

19/44 = 43% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol win = 1

Maps Dropped = 8

FUT
-Map Pool
S:
A:
B: Sunset
C: Haven, Ascent, Lotus, Abyss
D:
Bans Icebox and Haven

11/30 = 37% of pistols won
Eco'd after pistol win = 3

Maps Dropped = 7

#2
oiiink
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ok sen lose got it

#3
Laundry
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ily

#4
AstroGalaxy
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Only sen has a D tier map... lol

#5
kyro1
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oiiink [#2]

ok sen lose got it

lol i was shocked when i saw how bad their pistol wins were

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kyro1
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AstroGalaxy [#4]

Only sen has a D tier map... lol

prx

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AstroGalaxy
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kyro1 [#5]

lol i was shocked when i saw how bad their pistol wins were

Yeah sen cannot win pistols for shit

#8
kyro1
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Laundry [#3]

ily

<3

#9
kanyefan4238173
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holy yap

link your pickems

#10
kyro1
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kanyefan4238173 [#9]

holy yap

link your pickems

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/e15b1bf3

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airke
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Great shit brother, I just disagree with G2's icebox, it's nowhere near A it's probably not even B tbh

#12
kyro1
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airke [#11]

Great shit brother, I just disagree with G2's icebox, it's nowhere near A it's probably not even B tbh

looks fixed from when they played against lev but who knows its only 1 game so hard to judge there were couple of maps like that

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kanyefan4238173
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kyro1 [#10]

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/e15b1bf3

not bad. i used map pools too but got different results sometimes

drx > kru
trace > vit
lev > vit
prx > edg
sen > th
fpx > th

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kyro1
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kanyefan4238173 [#13]

not bad. i used map pools too but got different results sometimes

drx > kru
trace > vit
lev > vit
prx > edg
sen > th
fpx > th

trace > vit is diabolical work

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catNmouse
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g2 A icebox?? need more games bro. it’s been constantly shit

#16
kyro1
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catNmouse [#15]

g2 A icebox?? need more games bro. it’s been constantly shit

i agree but its hard to judge because it looked fixed against lev who are insane on the map maybe b would have been more fair but im a bit biased towards g2

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kyro1 [#14]

trace > vit is diabolical work

It’s a 50/50 actually idk why I said that

I’m still picking trace tho, I feel like vitality and others will underestimate the random Chinese team.

Fpx and edg have earned respect but trace hasn’t

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kyro1
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kanyefan4238173 [#17]

It’s a 50/50 actually idk why I said that

I’m still picking trace tho, I feel like vitality and others will underestimate the random Chinese team.

Fpx and edg have earned respect but trace hasn’t

i agree china is always gonna get underrated but trace is like picking drg to win a game i just dont see a world where that happens in their first international plus they are known chokers even in china and i think vitality are quite good so i just dont see a world

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kanyefan4238173
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kyro1 [#18]

i agree china is always gonna get underrated but trace is like picking drg to win a game i just dont see a world where that happens in their first international plus they are known chokers even in china and i think vitality are quite good so i just dont see a world

Nah drg is trash, I picked them to lose all their games in Shanghai

Trace is different

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kyro1
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kanyefan4238173 [#19]

Nah drg is trash, I picked them to lose all their games in Shanghai

Trace is different

didnt drg beat trace regionally?

#21
Animosity07
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Sen sunset C??? Do you have dementia or something that's literally the number 1 ban against sentinels even more so than split

#22
Mebi
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How do you differentiate S and A, from your description they feel kinda similar?

Also I would think GenG Lotus and PRX Sunset would be S

#23
kyro1
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Animosity07 [#21]

Sen sunset C??? Do you have dementia or something that's literally the number 1 ban against sentinels even more so than split

Sen are banning it lol and the only result this stage was 14-12 NRG which i remember clearly in that game was a total collapse that was saved by sacy and zellsis heroics. NRG also lost sunset to C9 so idk what to tell you sen dont have a good map right now besides maybe lotus. im not even a hater its just what the results say.

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kanyefan4238173
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kyro1 [#20]

didnt drg beat trace regionally?

Trace choked

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kyro1
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Mebi [#22]

How do you differentiate S and A, from your description they feel kinda similar?

Also I would think GenG Lotus and PRX Sunset would be S

S tier map is like nobody at the tournament is taking it off them unless something majorly goes wrong but A tier map is like beatable if the other team is also just as good if not better. also s tier maps were more dictated by results then anything else.

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kyro1
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kanyefan4238173 [#24]

Trace choked

how do you choke to trash and arent trash?

#27
kanyefan4238173
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kyro1 [#26]

how do you choke to trash and arent trash?

Idk

#28
Conceit
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kanyefan4238173 [#24]

Trace choked

Trace lost to DRG twice

#29
NotNefarious
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kyro1 [#10]

https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/e15b1bf3

braindead

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kyro1
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NotNefarious [#29]

braindead

the self upvote is shameless

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