-zellsis or -sacy and +woot holy dynasty for sen. they would win everything for the next 2 yrs. this has to be the best team itw no? no way I'm this delusional tho
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swvyboi1 [#3]We don't want that fraud in NA. Look what happened to ardis. Keep frauds in their fraud region.
-swvyboi1
#SENCITY
johnQT is moroccan?
nihso [#5]are you a sen fan or not? woot is the goat rn and sen would win everything
woot isnt leaving th, and i like competitive valorant. not curb stomping valorant
flanador [#6]Team chemistry>Team of cracked players
why i would do -sacy instead bc woot is funny and hype so he could mesh well with the team
swvyboi1 [#3]We don't want that fraud in NA. Look what happened to ardis. Keep frauds in their fraud region.
-swvyboi1
#SENCITY
-swvyboi1 +numberonecNedfan
lsd_abuser [#10]Why would he downgrade?
https://www.vlr.gg/353183/sentinels-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w2
Shouldn't have downgraded since the 2021 roster
nihso [#9]why i would do -sacy instead bc woot is funny and hype so he could mesh well with the team
Clearly you’re baiting, but Sacy brings more to the team than woot could ever
nihso [#5]are you a sen fan or not? woot is the goat rn and sen would win everything
u can't just add good players and expect them to win, SEN won Madrid cuz of their crazy good team work and chemistry. Removing zellsis or sacy would harm their system and chemistry heavily.
H3ENnZ [#11]-swvyboi1 +numberonecNedfan
-swvyboi1 is a good decision but don’t bring that fraud (numberounocNed fan) here. Instead we shall invite geospliced
flanador [#16]Clearly you’re baiting, but Sacy brings more to the team than woot could ever
Sacy brings alot but woot is just too good man. Sacy util might be better but woot frags are just too good. Woot is also brings a lot of vibe like Zellsis u haven't seen him
Shawn23 [#8]woot isnt leaving th, and i like competitive valorant. not curb stomping valorant
You also like Children Funnily enough!
boilin_cockroach [#20]Overall it’s a dumb thing to even think of but let’s talk about something else. Why do you guys want to get rid of zellsis and sacy? Like genuinely, what’s the problem with them, they’ve been pretty good so far
I don't want to get rid of any of them but it's just a hypothetical question. sen is winning champs but I'm saying with woot I'm wondering what other plans they could win
Chunkio [#21]You also like Children Funnily enough!
i can’t believe i really have a fan on vlr, i love this attention thank you ♥️
Shawn23 [#8]woot isnt leaving th, and i like competitive valorant. not curb stomping valorant
just bc u don't doesn't mean teams don't. every team wants to make the best team possible to win everything
nihso [#19]Sacy brings alot but woot is just too good man. Sacy util might be better but woot frags are just too good. Woot is also brings a lot of vibe like Zellsis u haven't seen him
The value Sacy brings clears woots fragging value and once again. Team chem>Team full of aim demons
boilin_cockroach [#20]Overall it’s a dumb thing to even think of but let’s talk about something else. Why do you guys want to get rid of zellsis and sacy? Like genuinely, what’s the problem with them, they’ve been pretty good so far
they aren't winning anything else with them still on the team
dort [#30]they aren't winning anything else with them still on the team
NRG won't win shit with crashits and vicdick on team. Also shit ass coach can't make starts
Sentinels IS NOT winning champs with Wo0t
-Even tho Wo0t is amazing on duelist and initiator, Sacy and Zellsis still plays way more agent and covers more roles.
-Sacy was a champions player. Even tho he is not the most impactful player he still has more understanding to this game and has better utility coverage in general. Before the SEN roster changes in 2024 Sacy was considered to be the IGL for the team before they decided that Marved will give out calls bc Sacy is still brazilian and he doesnt speak perfect English but that shows that Sacy could be trusted to give calls and he prob still does.
- Zellsis is good in the scene he has a wide agent pool and does a good job to bring the vibes up, and i dont think wo0t can do as good as the vibe merchant. Not to mention Zellsis was reportedly in talk to IGL when Johnqt was having VISA issues.
If they lose any of the players they are going to face even more problems in comming because wo0t is turkish and he doesnt speak great english
Kyronnn [#17]u can't just add good players and expect them to win, SEN won Madrid cuz of their crazy good team work and chemistry. Removing zellsis or sacy would harm their system and chemistry heavily.
bringing up madrid isn't a good argument, it was a mickey mouse showcase event after all
nihso [#7]johnQT is moroccan?
JohnQT has never played tier 1 EMEA and he developed in OUR NA tier 2 scene, this isn’t even comparable
ctabust [#31]a bit of an overcook honestly
isnt ur whole team overcooking lans tho? breeze Copenhagen was overcook. Champs bind was overcook too
nihso [#32]NRG won't win shit with crashits and vicdick on team. Also shit ass coach can't make starts
NRG is winning champs, nice try buddy
H3ENnZ [#33]Sentinels IS NOT winning champs with Wo0t
-Even tho Wo0t is amazing on duelist and initiator, Sacy and Zellsis still plays way more agent and covers more roles.
-Sacy was a champions player. Even tho he is not the most impactful player he still has more understanding to this game and has better utility coverage in general. Before the SEN roster changes in 2024 Sacy was considered to be the IGL for the team before they decided that Marved will give out calls bc Sacy is still brazilian and he doesnt speak perfect English but that shows that Sacy could be trusted to give calls and he prob still does.
- Zellsis is good in the scene he has a wide agent pool and does a good job to bring the vibes up, and i dont think wo0t can do as good as the vibe merchant. Not to mention Zellsis was reportedly in talk to IGL when Johnqt was having VISA issues.
If they lose any of the players they are going to face even more problems in comming because wo0t is turkish and he doesnt speak great english
You have opened eyes. Thanks sir for showing me I'm deluded!
dort [#34]bringing up madrid isn't a good argument, it was a mickey mouse showcase event after all
flair
dort [#34]bringing up madrid isn't a good argument, it was a mickey mouse showcase event after all
So what real plans have nrg won? Started watched since Madrid 2024
dort [#37]NRG is winning champs, nice try buddy
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dort [#37]NRG is winning champs, nice try buddy
In what year tho? Bc definitely not this year bc sen is winning. Maybe when Valorant is dead and has like 4 teams in 2046
dort [#34]bringing up madrid isn't a good argument, it was a mickey mouse showcase event after all
Yeah just like optics Reykjavik
Mortadelo [#25]Yeah I'm half kidding but johnqt is actually an import
Johnqt isnt an import because he has always played in NA and was living in canada
KOMPOSTO [#46]Johnqt isnt an import because he has always played in NA and was living in canada
I think he said he would consider it himself as a import. Not 100% sure tho so don't trust me on that
my-dad-ate-my-toes [#48]Why does every SEN fan wanna change their own roster? I swear any time a cracked player enters the general discussion there's about 5 threads that are like SEN Leo? SEN Less? SEN t3xture? SEN Wo0t? SEN paTiTek? Like BROOOOOOO! Calm down. You have a Masters winning roster
Holy duck those 5 you just mentioned is a crazy roster no? They could win it all lowkey. Might have to drop sen now
KOMPOSTO [#46]Johnqt isnt an import because he has always played in NA and was living in canada
I'm afraid that's not how it works. He is listed as an import on Riot's database
nihso [#45]We forgot about zekken sova or what?
his duelist is too good to give up
and im pretty sure woot doesnt want to play duelist
KOMPOSTO [#52]his duelist is too good to give up
and im pretty sure woot doesnt want to play duelist
So we forgot about tenz???
H3ENnZ [#33]Sentinels IS NOT winning champs with Wo0t
-Even tho Wo0t is amazing on duelist and initiator, Sacy and Zellsis still plays way more agent and covers more roles.
-Sacy was a champions player. Even tho he is not the most impactful player he still has more understanding to this game and has better utility coverage in general. Before the SEN roster changes in 2024 Sacy was considered to be the IGL for the team before they decided that Marved will give out calls bc Sacy is still brazilian and he doesnt speak perfect English but that shows that Sacy could be trusted to give calls and he prob still does.
- Zellsis is good in the scene he has a wide agent pool and does a good job to bring the vibes up, and i dont think wo0t can do as good as the vibe merchant. Not to mention Zellsis was reportedly in talk to IGL when Johnqt was having VISA issues.
If they lose any of the players they are going to face even more problems in comming because wo0t is turkish and he doesnt speak great english
Thats because Sentinels in not winning champions. With or without Woot, deffo not winning champs
r3verie_ [#56]Thats because Sentinels in not winning champions. With or without Woot, deffo not winning champs
Delusional?
nihso [#57]Delusional?
Cmon man, you really think sentinels can win against actual geng or th? Thats the delusional thing
Mortadelo [#51]I'm afraid that's not how it works. He is listed as an import on Riot's database
i see, after a year of playing in VCT NA does he lose his import status or is he an import for eternity
because i think if something goes back to EMEA, he will be import again, so he shouldnt be an import rn in pacific, if that makes sense
nihso [#36]isnt ur whole team overcooking lans tho? breeze Copenhagen was overcook. Champs bind was overcook too
idk what your point is? im not a player on prx?? prx is a team i like, id consider multiple other teams to keep as my flair aswell
r3verie_ [#58]Cmon man, you really think sentinels can win against actual geng or th? Thats the delusional thing
You haven't watched sen this split have you. Bro geng almost lost to bleed like that is bad. TH is only good bc of minipoo and woot
KOMPOSTO [#60]i see, after a year of playing in VCT NA does he lose his import status or is he an import for eternity
because i think if something goes back to EMEA, he will be import again, so he shouldnt be an import rn in pacific, if that makes sense
something is Russian. While he's playing in Pacific, he's an import. If he were to go back to EMEA, he would no longer be an import. It's that simple
cloudberry [#63]something is Russian. While he's playing in Pacific, he's an import. If he were to go back to EMEA, he would no longer be an import. It's that simple
did dephh count as import as well? I dont remember anyone mentioning that
and where can we see the riot database
KOMPOSTO [#64]did dephh count as import as well? I dont remember anyone mentioning that
and where can we see the riot database
I think dephh counted as an import, yea. Not 100% sure though, could've been a jawgemo situation, I'm not super familiar with dephh.
Also I have no idea where to find the database, nor if it's even public
KOMPOSTO [#60]i see, after a year of playing in VCT NA does he lose his import status or is he an import for eternity
because i think if something goes back to EMEA, he will be import again, so he shouldnt be an import rn in pacific, if that makes sense
Well I might be wrong on this but I think he’s stuck as an import forever?
It depends on residency and he didn’t Canada one when he started to play tier 1 I believe that’s why he’s an import.
The thing is for people with double nationality they have to choose 1 region. Russ for example chose APAC and is now an import I EMEA I believe. I would imagine same applies and since has already been to tier 1 as EMEA he can’t go back? Idk that’s just my guess. And no, something is not an import in EMEA
cloudberry [#65]I think dephh counted as an import, yea. Not 100% sure though, could've been a jawgemo situation, I'm not super familiar with dephh.
Also I have no idea where to find the database, nor if it's even public
Yes it’s public, here you go
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vRmmWiBmMMD43m5VtZq54nKlmj0ZtythsA1qCpegwx-iRptx2HEsG0T3cQlG1r2AIiKxBWnaurJZQ9Q/pubhtml?pli=1#
nihso [#54]So we forgot about tenz???
putting tenz back on duelist at any point would be a disastrous mistake for sen
nihso [#62]You haven't watched sen this split have you. Bro geng almost lost to bleed like that is bad. TH is only good bc of minipoo and woot
Wtf is this take
flanador [#28]The value Sacy brings clears woots fragging value and once again. Team chem>Team full of aim demons
this guy gets it
- sacy isn’t impossible it’s just that he’s a big part of the chem now. It would take time to replace him.
and it couldn’t be just anyone.
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