SEN wo0t? | VLR.gg

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-zellsis or -sacy and +woot holy dynasty for sen. they would win everything for the next 2 yrs. this has to be the best team itw no? no way I'm this delusional tho

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no

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nihso

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are you a sen fan or not? woot is the goat rn and sen would win everything

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woot isnt leaving th, and i like competitive valorant. not curb stomping valorant

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Chunkio

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You also like Children Funnily enough!

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Shawn23

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i can’t believe i really have a fan on vlr, i love this attention thank you ♥️

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Shut the FUCK up.

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nihso

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just bc u don't doesn't mean teams don't. every team wants to make the best team possible to win everything

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u can't just add good players and expect them to win, SEN won Madrid cuz of their crazy good team work and chemistry. Removing zellsis or sacy would harm their system and chemistry heavily.

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bringing up madrid isn't a good argument, it was a mickey mouse showcase event after all

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flair

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nihso

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So what real plans have nrg won? Started watched since Madrid 2024

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Yeah just like optics Reykjavik

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We don't want that fraud in NA. Look what happened to ardis. Keep frauds in their fraud region.

-swvyboi1

#SENCITY

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nihso

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johnQT is moroccan?

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Dybala21

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Yeah he’s just stupid

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turkey

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JohnQT has never played tier 1 EMEA and he developed in OUR NA tier 2 scene, this isn’t even comparable

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-swvyboi1 +numberonecNedfan

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boilin_cockroach

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-swvyboi1 is a good decision but don’t bring that fraud (numberounocNed fan) here. Instead we shall invite geospliced

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dort

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"Woot doesn't bring the vibes like zellsis does!"

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Team chemistry>Team of cracked players

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nihso

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why i would do -sacy instead bc woot is funny and hype so he could mesh well with the team

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flanador

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Clearly you’re baiting, but Sacy brings more to the team than woot could ever

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Sacy brings alot but woot is just too good man. Sacy util might be better but woot frags are just too good. Woot is also brings a lot of vibe like Zellsis u haven't seen him

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flanador

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The value Sacy brings clears woots fragging value and once again. Team chem>Team full of aim demons

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this guy gets it

sacy isn’t impossible it’s just that he’s a big part of the chem now. It would take time to replace him.
and it couldn’t be just anyone.

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Why would he downgrade?

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nihso

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https://www.vlr.gg/353183/sentinels-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2-w2
Shouldn't have downgraded since the 2021 roster

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wo0t doesn't sova

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zellsis to sova so woot can kayo

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nihso

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We forgot about zekken sova or what?

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his duelist is too good to give up

and im pretty sure woot doesnt want to play duelist

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nihso

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So we forgot about tenz???

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keep him on omen pls

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putting tenz back on duelist at any point would be a disastrous mistake for sen

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YES PUT HIM BACK ON DUELIST
EASY PATH TO CHAMPS FOR NRG

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Can’t have 2 imports Woot and tarik

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nihso

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tarik is los angelinian no?

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Yeah I'm half kidding but johnqt is actually an import

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Johnqt isnt an import because he has always played in NA and was living in canada

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nihso

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I think he said he would consider it himself as a import. Not 100% sure tho so don't trust me on that

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Mortadelo

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I'm afraid that's not how it works. He is listed as an import on Riot's database

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i see, after a year of playing in VCT NA does he lose his import status or is he an import for eternity

because i think if something goes back to EMEA, he will be import again, so he shouldnt be an import rn in pacific, if that makes sense

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cloudberry

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something is Russian. While he's playing in Pacific, he's an import. If he were to go back to EMEA, he would no longer be an import. It's that simple

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did dephh count as import as well? I dont remember anyone mentioning that

and where can we see the riot database

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cloudberry

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I think dephh counted as an import, yea. Not 100% sure though, could've been a jawgemo situation, I'm not super familiar with dephh.
Also I have no idea where to find the database, nor if it's even public

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Yes it’s public, here you go
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vRmmWiBmMMD43m5VtZq54nKlmj0ZtythsA1qCpegwx-iRptx2HEsG0T3cQlG1r2AIiKxBWnaurJZQ9Q/pubhtml?pli=1#

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Well I might be wrong on this but I think he’s stuck as an import forever?

It depends on residency and he didn’t Canada one when he started to play tier 1 I believe that’s why he’s an import.

The thing is for people with double nationality they have to choose 1 region. Russ for example chose APAC and is now an import I EMEA I believe. I would imagine same applies and since has already been to tier 1 as EMEA he can’t go back? Idk that’s just my guess. And no, something is not an import in EMEA

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Overall it’s a dumb thing to even think of but let’s talk about something else. Why do you guys want to get rid of zellsis and sacy? Like genuinely, what’s the problem with them, they’ve been pretty good so far

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nihso

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I don't want to get rid of any of them but it's just a hypothetical question. sen is winning champs but I'm saying with woot I'm wondering what other plans they could win

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they aren't winning anything else with them still on the team

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nihso

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NRG won't win shit with crashits and vicdick on team. Also shit ass coach can't make starts

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dort

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NRG is winning champs, nice try buddy

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H3ENnZ

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eth0n trashi0es c0ve F0nis Tract0r ch0t tiktok lineup g0d

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nihso

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In what year tho? Bc definitely not this year bc sen is winning. Maybe when Valorant is dead and has like 4 teams in 2046

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kamisavitar

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Yes but ig as a Sen fan it would be more fun to defeat peak of EMEA

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flnnss

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nah it should be -sacy +verno if OXG doesn't win ascension

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ctabust

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a bit of an overcook honestly

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nihso

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isnt ur whole team overcooking lans tho? breeze Copenhagen was overcook. Champs bind was overcook too

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idk what your point is? im not a player on prx?? prx is a team i like, id consider multiple other teams to keep as my flair aswell

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Sentinels IS NOT winning champs with Wo0t

-Even tho Wo0t is amazing on duelist and initiator, Sacy and Zellsis still plays way more agent and covers more roles.
-Sacy was a champions player. Even tho he is not the most impactful player he still has more understanding to this game and has better utility coverage in general. Before the SEN roster changes in 2024 Sacy was considered to be the IGL for the team before they decided that Marved will give out calls bc Sacy is still brazilian and he doesnt speak perfect English but that shows that Sacy could be trusted to give calls and he prob still does.

Zellsis is good in the scene he has a wide agent pool and does a good job to bring the vibes up, and i dont think wo0t can do as good as the vibe merchant. Not to mention Zellsis was reportedly in talk to IGL when Johnqt was having VISA issues.
If they lose any of the players they are going to face even more problems in comming because wo0t is turkish and he doesnt speak great english

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nihso

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You have opened eyes. Thanks sir for showing me I'm deluded!

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Thats because Sentinels in not winning champions. With or without Woot, deffo not winning champs

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nihso

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Delusional?

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r3verie_

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Cmon man, you really think sentinels can win against actual geng or th? Thats the delusional thing

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nihso

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You haven't watched sen this split have you. Bro geng almost lost to bleed like that is bad. TH is only good bc of minipoo and woot

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Wtf is this take

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Why does every SEN fan wanna change their own roster? I swear any time a cracked player enters the general discussion there's about 5 threads that are like SEN Leo? SEN Less? SEN t3xture? SEN Wo0t? SEN paTiTek? Like BROOOOOOO! Calm down. You have a Masters winning roster

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nihso

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Holy duck those 5 you just mentioned is a crazy roster no? They could win it all lowkey. Might have to drop sen now

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yukky

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Keep that penta final negative noob off of SEN

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-Artorias

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save him from eu bots
im ok with nrg woot sen woot g2 woot etc

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0/8 delulu