What is the argument for EU>AMERICA

EU and America are both tied at 5 trophies per region but Americas is 2-1 in champs. The americas region also has a higher average placement in global tournaments than EU so I fail to see the argument where EU>Americas. I would honestly like to hear the reasoning(not bait I swear).

Edit: If you want to argue that NORTH America < EU thats a bit more defensible but you have to take out Gambit since they're a russian team and therefore not part of the European Union

AMER: SENx2, OPTIC, LOUD, EG
EU: FNCx2, GMB, ACEND, FPX(NAVI)

NA has won every champs

They're not going to give you real answers, just gonna cook you for this

babysasuke [#2]

NA has won every champs

They're not going to give you real answers, just gonna cook you for this

I want to know tho. Maybe there is a case of EU>NA but if you minus LOUD I would argue you have to minus GMB since Russia isn't in the european union.

acend won first champs.

champs is 2-1 for americas. split between NA and brazil btw.

Congo1 [#4]

acend won first champs.

champs is 2-1 for americas. split between NA and brazil btw.

Fair, didn't realize Acend's win was a champ, I'll change it.

Congo1 [#4]

acend won first champs.

champs is 2-1 for americas. split between NA and brazil btw.

na really want to claim that loud trophy even it was all brasil credit

Benetheburrito [#3]

I want to know tho. Maybe there is a case of EU>NA but if you minus LOUD I would argue you have to minus GMB since Russia isn't in the european union.

EU just stands for european servers which is where russians play, many countries in europe arent in the european union so that claim of urs is stupid, EMEA clear of NA but Americas better thanks to Loud but its not really fair to compare just 1 continent to a super continent with regions that dont even share the same servers?

brahianv [#6]

na really want to claim that loud trophy even it was all brasil credit

Could I not say the same about Gambit and Russia since they are not in the EU?

brahianv [#6]

na really want to claim that loud trophy even it was all brasil credit

and yall want to claim gambits win

There is no argument for it, they haven’t won since tokyo

idkbro [#7]

EU just stands for european servers which is where russians play, many countries in europe arent in the european union so that claim of urs is stupid, EMEA clear of NA but Americas better thanks to Loud but its not really fair to compare just 1 continent to a super continent with regions that dont even share the same servers?

Genuinely curious, does russia and say spain or UK play on same servers?

just because russia isnt in the european union doesnt change the fact it is still in the continent of europe

Benetheburrito [#3]

I want to know tho. Maybe there is a case of EU>NA but if you minus LOUD I would argue you have to minus GMB since Russia isn't in the european union.

when people say EU they mean EUROPE not the European Union 😂

Benetheburrito [#8]

Could I not say the same about Gambit and Russia since they are not in the EU?

and not a single soul tought "americas" is a thing before the leauge it was always NA and SA till franchising while gambit was still emea and played in eu,if u tried to claim americas in like 2021 u would have got clowned and called a glory hunter,"americas" is a way bigger region than emea it really isnt impressive that SA and NA scenes combined have more success than emea

Benetheburrito [#11]

Genuinely curious, does russia and say spain or UK play on same servers?

does brazil and canada play on the same servers?

laeDLaer [#13]

when people say EU they mean EUROPE not the European Union 😂

they are so braindead for thinking we mean European Union when we say EU, their brains will explode when they realize Ukraine isnt really a CIS member even if its considered CIS in gaming

idkbro [#16]

they are so braindead for thinking we mean European Union when we say EU, their brains will explode when they realize Ukraine isnt really a CIS member even if its considered CIS in gaming

hahahaha

gg321 [#14]

and not a single soul tought "americas" is a thing before the leauge it was always NA and SA till franchising while gambit was still emea and played in eu,if u tried to claim americas in like 2021 u would have got clowned and called a glory hunter,"americas" is a way bigger region than emea it really isnt impressive that SA and NA scenes combined have more success than emea

yea but it’s not 2021 so i don’t know why your bitching about it, people (me) are saying americas is better than shitmea not na is better

kanyenum1fan [#9]

and yall want to claim gambits win

majority of us live on the European part of Russia.

gg321 [#14]

and not a single soul tought "americas" is a thing before the leauge it was always NA and SA till franchising while gambit was still emea and played in eu,if u tried to claim americas in like 2021 u would have got clowned and called a glory hunter,"americas" is a way bigger region than emea it really isnt impressive that SA and NA scenes combined have more success than emea

It's always been NA 🤝 South NA

Just because Europe has continental racism doesn't mean its normal or okay!

gg321 [#14]

and not a single soul tought "americas" is a thing before the leauge it was always NA and SA till franchising while gambit was still emea and played in eu,if u tried to claim americas in like 2021 u would have got clowned and called a glory hunter,"americas" is a way bigger region than emea it really isnt impressive that SA and NA scenes combined have more success than emea

yeah we have to share our slots too, yall get to have 11 shit teams

valkin [#18]

yea but it’s not 2021 so i don’t know why your bitching about it, people (me) are saying americas is better than shitmea not na is better

what does that have to do with my point?

Benetheburrito [#11]

Genuinely curious, does russia and say spain or UK play on same servers?

yes, everyone plays in the same servers in EMEA including north africans/middle easters players, mostly berlin/paris most played and a bit of london, everything else u cant find high immo/radiant lobbies and the level in general is just worse, berlin/paris are more toxic because players from all over europe play there but the level is 10 times higher than every other server so if u are a competitive player and wanna improve u must play there

kanyenum1fan [#21]

yeah we have to share our slots too, yall get to have 11 shit teams

yeah u get to share ur slots with 2 independent scenes,with their best teams,what a shocker that americas is more competitive

milfman [#12]

just because russia isnt in the european union doesnt change the fact it is still in the continent of europe

hardly

Benetheburrito [#8]

Could I not say the same about Gambit and Russia since they are not in the EU?

you are so stupid lmao

laeDLaer [#17]

hahahaha

biggest CIS org and only CIS org in EMEA league isnt actually from a CIS member country? how can that be possible?!?!!?!??!

gg321 [#24]

yeah u get to share ur slots with 2 independent scenes,with their best teams,what a shocker that americas is more competitive

they aren’t independent anymore in valorant though thats the thing

gg321 [#14]

and not a single soul tought "americas" is a thing before the leauge it was always NA and SA till franchising while gambit was still emea and played in eu,if u tried to claim americas in like 2021 u would have got clowned and called a glory hunter,"americas" is a way bigger region than emea it really isnt impressive that SA and NA scenes combined have more success than emea

? It's because EMEA playerbase = NA + SA playerbase based on the number of players.

kanyenum1fan [#28]

they aren’t independent anymore in valorant though thats the thing

yes they are? They have their own regional servers,their own leagues,and they scrim SA and not NA

gg321 [#30]

yes they are? They have their own regional servers,their own leagues,and they scrim SA and not NA

facts

Klick1108 [#29]

? It's because EMEA playerbase = NA + SA playerbase based on the number of players.

now do emea population vs americas population

kanyenum1fan [#28]

they aren’t independent anymore in valorant though thats the thing

they're stuck in 2021

babysasuke [#20]

It's always been NA 🤝 South NA

Just because Europe has continental racism doesn't mean its normal or okay!

it was bronzil all day until loud

gg321 [#22]

what does that have to do with my point?

your saying in 2021 you would get clowned for saying that and i’m saying it doesn’t matter

my bad for not being clear enough to your european dumbass

gg321 [#32]

now do emea population vs americas population

Population? Not valorant playerbase population buddy?

gg321 [#30]

yes they are? They have their own regional servers,their own leagues,and they scrim SA and not NA

SA pros play in LA

gg321 [#14]

and not a single soul tought "americas" is a thing before the leauge it was always NA and SA till franchising while gambit was still emea and played in eu,if u tried to claim americas in like 2021 u would have got clowned and called a glory hunter,"americas" is a way bigger region than emea it really isnt impressive that SA and NA scenes combined have more success than emea

I don't get how us not considering Americas before it happened matters at all. We're just talking how leagues were distributed prefranchising, region unity before the regions as they are today were established doesn't mean anything

gg321 [#34]

it was bronzil all day until loud

🤣🤣 they forgetting how na users were always flaming brazil here before franchise

valkin [#35]

your saying in 2021 you would get clowned for saying that and i’m saying it doesn’t matter

my bad for not being clear enough to your european dumbass

ok? Are u proud of urself that NA and SA combined are better than emea

gg321 [#30]

yes they are? They have their own regional servers,their own leagues,and they scrim SA and not NA

? NA teams scrim against SA teams... T2 has NA vs SA in the finals for promotion... A lot of SA players also play on NA servers (texas server for example where SA pros tend to play)

In 2024, everything

gg321 [#40]

ok? Are u proud of urself that NA and SA combined are better than emea

yea fuck europe 😭

americas > emea but you cant be so retarded to say that russia and the gambit players didnt represent europe

laeDLaer [#39]

🤣🤣 they forgetting how na users were always flaming brazil here before franchise

facts they were all bronzil until LOUD won champs now we are one because of an invented "americas" league

Klick1108 [#41]

? NA teams scrim against SA teams... T2 has NA vs SA in the finals for promotion... A lot of SA players also play on NA servers (texas server for example where SA pros tend to play)

i know for a fact no teams situated past mexico play in NA servers

brahianv [#45]

facts they were all bronzil until LOUD won champs now we are one because of an invented "americas" league

?? i wasn’t saying bronzil

kanyenum1fan [#37]

SA pros play in LA

which SA pros? Do u mean bootcamp

gg321 [#46]

i know for a fact no teams situated past mexico play in NA servers

... LOUD players (Brazil) play on texas servers a lot... not ur fault for not knowing, but they play against streamers all the time.

valkin [#43]

yea fuck europe 😭

damn that isnt really mature of u,how about u grow up a little!

Klick1108 [#49]

... LOUD players (Brazil) play on texas servers a lot... not ur fault for not knowing, but they play against streamers all the time.

loud players...............

gg321 [#48]

which SA pros? Do u mean bootcamp

they mean split 1, split 2, qualifiers, and promotions

Klick1108 [#52]

they mean split 1, split 2, qualifiers, and promotions

which teams? there is not a single team that can play their regional splits there expect mexico

gg321 [#51]

loud players...............

... wym it's facts... MIBR, FURIA, LOUD, and the whole lot play even in off season in Texas servers

Klick1108 [#49]

... LOUD players (Brazil) play on texas servers a lot... not ur fault for not knowing, but they play against streamers all the time.

they play there because they need to be there how dumb are you???

Klick1108 [#54]

... wym it's facts... MIBR, FURIA, LOUD, and the whole lot play even in off season in Texas servers

bro are u slow,no shit the 5 SA teams who are in the league based in NA play there,were talking about the region as a whole

Klick1108 [#54]

... wym it's facts... MIBR, FURIA, LOUD, and the whole lot play even in off season in Texas servers

not facts in off season they go back to brasil so no.. who cares about pro players? we are talking about player base

i’m waiting for sentinelmains dumbass to say some retarded shit 😭

gg321 [#53]

which teams? there is not a single team that can play their regional splits there expect mexico

what are you talking about?

last T2 promotion: The union, 00Nation, FUSION, 9z team (all latam or brazil).

Current split matches (in LA): Kru (Argentina), Furia (Brazil), LOUD (Brazil), MIBR (Brazil), Leviatan (Chile)

Klick1108 [#59]

what are you talking about?

last T2 promotion: The union, 00Nation, FUSION, 9z team (all latam or brazil).

Current split matches (in LA): Kru (Argentina), Furia (Brazil), LOUD (Brazil), MIBR (Brazil), Leviatan (Chile)

nah ur actually retarded

brahianv [#57]

not facts in off season they go back to brasil so no.. who cares about pro players? we are talking about player base

some don't give a shit... They play on 100 ping sometimes (for example NRG s0m played against MIBR players who had 100 ping last year during off season)

gg321 [#60]

nah ur actually retarded

I don't understand what ur saying... explain please instead of talking shit you fucker

Klick1108 [#62]

I don't understand what ur saying... explain please instead of talking shit you fucker

literally 2 answers for u in the 2nd thread

brahianv [#55]

they play there because they need to be there how dumb are you???

they need to? with over 100 ping? They NEED to play on texas servers? I thought your whole point was that SA players play on serperate servers... read it all before responding please

gg321 [#63]

literally 2 answers for u in the 2nd thread

do you see how long your thread is? EXPLAIN

Klick1108 [#65]

do you see how long your thread is? EXPLAIN

ok

gg321 [#66]

ok

also, grow up and stop calling people a r... what are you a? A child? We'll be seein ya

Klick1108 [#67]

also, grow up and stop calling people a r... what are you a? A child? We'll be seein ya

ok

gg321 [#68]

ok

/wave

Benetheburrito [#3]

I want to know tho. Maybe there is a case of EU>NA but if you minus LOUD I would argue you have to minus GMB since Russia isn't in the european union.

https://www.vlr.gg/366301/americas-vs-emea-comparison/

Since Aspas is no longer in LOUD and Demon1 not on a team, Americas has no chance except Zekken Jawgemo and Keznit.
EMEA superior right now with TH and FNC while KC and FUT aren't bad as well.

Don't even mention 100pigs and G2chokes.

Demon1_The_GOAT [#71]

Since Aspas is no longer in LOUD and Demon1 not on a team, Americas has no chance except Zekken Jawgemo and Keznit.
EMEA superior right now with TH and FNC while KC and FUT aren't bad as well.

Don't even mention 100pigs and G2chokes.

You just said 3 Americas teams have a chance and only 2 good EMEA teams lol

babysasuke [#72]

You just said 3 Americas teams have a chance and only 2 good EMEA teams lol

Yeah but what are the chances besides SEN only. Jawgemo can't carry EG by himself and Keznit + Shyy failed last time to too. But we shall see!

valkin [#47]

?? i wasn’t saying bronzil

you dont speak for the continent

Benetheburrito [#11]

Genuinely curious, does russia and say spain or UK play on same servers?

yes all can play on each others servers except i think east russia plays apac

K4ziuHa [#74]

you dont speak for the continent

"they were all" 🤓

valkin [#76]

"they were all" 🤓

This refers to NA rats, obviously

sentinelmain377 [#70]

https://www.vlr.gg/366301/americas-vs-emea-comparison/

Facts disagree with my opinions? Facts rejected
EU GETTING COOKED PER USUAL RAAAAAH

Benetheburrito [#11]

Genuinely curious, does russia and say spain or UK play on same servers?

Genuinely curious, does New York and say Washington or Texas play on same servers?

K4ziuHa [#77]

This refers to NA rats, obviously

yea no im being annoying on purpose my fault king

3 times winning the tournament with the less teams and less competition? yeah i can see why eu>americas. also, NA fans don't count loud championship as yours. that's a win for Brazil. don't include yourself in that.

Americas is the best region, there is no doubt about that.