What is the argument for EU>AMERICA

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Benetheburrito

EU and America are both tied at 5 trophies per region but Americas is 2-1 in champs. The americas region also has a higher average placement in global tournaments than EU so I fail to see the argument where EU>Americas. I would honestly like to hear the reasoning(not bait I swear).

Edit: If you want to argue that NORTH America < EU thats a bit more defensible but you have to take out Gambit since they're a russian team and therefore not part of the European Union

AMER: SENx2, OPTIC, LOUD, EG
EU: FNCx2, GMB, ACEND, FPX(NAVI)

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babysasuke

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NA has won every champs

They're not going to give you real answers, just gonna cook you for this

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I want to know tho. Maybe there is a case of EU>NA but if you minus LOUD I would argue you have to minus GMB since Russia isn't in the european union.

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EU just stands for european servers which is where russians play, many countries in europe arent in the european union so that claim of urs is stupid, EMEA clear of NA but Americas better thanks to Loud but its not really fair to compare just 1 continent to a super continent with regions that dont even share the same servers?

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Benetheburrito

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Genuinely curious, does russia and say spain or UK play on same servers?

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laeDLaer

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does brazil and canada play on the same servers?

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idkbro

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yes, everyone plays in the same servers in EMEA including north africans/middle easters players, mostly berlin/paris most played and a bit of london, everything else u cant find high immo/radiant lobbies and the level in general is just worse, berlin/paris are more toxic because players from all over europe play there but the level is 10 times higher than every other server so if u are a competitive player and wanna improve u must play there

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yes all can play on each others servers except i think east russia plays apac

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Genuinely curious, does New York and say Washington or Texas play on same servers?

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laeDLaer

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when people say EU they mean EUROPE not the European Union 😂

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idkbro

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they are so braindead for thinking we mean European Union when we say EU, their brains will explode when they realize Ukraine isnt really a CIS member even if its considered CIS in gaming

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hahahaha

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idkbro

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biggest CIS org and only CIS org in EMEA league isnt actually from a CIS member country? how can that be possible?!?!!?!??!

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sentinelmain377

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https://www.vlr.gg/366301/americas-vs-emea-comparison/

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DuD5K1S

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Facts disagree with my opinions? Facts rejected
EU GETTING COOKED PER USUAL RAAAAAH

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Congo1

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acend won first champs.

champs is 2-1 for americas. split between NA and brazil btw.

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Benetheburrito

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Fair, didn't realize Acend's win was a champ, I'll change it.

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na really want to claim that loud trophy even it was all brasil credit

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Benetheburrito

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Could I not say the same about Gambit and Russia since they are not in the EU?

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and not a single soul tought "americas" is a thing before the leauge it was always NA and SA till franchising while gambit was still emea and played in eu,if u tried to claim americas in like 2021 u would have got clowned and called a glory hunter,"americas" is a way bigger region than emea it really isnt impressive that SA and NA scenes combined have more success than emea

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valkin

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yea but it’s not 2021 so i don’t know why your bitching about it, people (me) are saying americas is better than shitmea not na is better

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gg321

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what does that have to do with my point?

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valkin

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your saying in 2021 you would get clowned for saying that and i’m saying it doesn’t matter

my bad for not being clear enough to your european dumbass

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gg321

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ok? Are u proud of urself that NA and SA combined are better than emea

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valkin

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yea fuck europe 😭

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gg321

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damn that isnt really mature of u,how about u grow up a little!

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babysasuke

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It's always been NA 🤝 South NA

Just because Europe has continental racism doesn't mean its normal or okay!

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gg321

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it was bronzil all day until loud

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laeDLaer

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🤣🤣 they forgetting how na users were always flaming brazil here before franchise

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brahianv

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facts they were all bronzil until LOUD won champs now we are one because of an invented "americas" league

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valkin

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?? i wasn’t saying bronzil

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K4ziuHa

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you dont speak for the continent

continue thread →

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kanyenum1fan

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yeah we have to share our slots too, yall get to have 11 shit teams

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gg321

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yeah u get to share ur slots with 2 independent scenes,with their best teams,what a shocker that americas is more competitive

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kanyenum1fan

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they aren’t independent anymore in valorant though thats the thing

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gg321

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yes they are? They have their own regional servers,their own leagues,and they scrim SA and not NA

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brahianv

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facts

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kanyenum1fan

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SA pros play in LA

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gg321

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which SA pros? Do u mean bootcamp

continue thread →

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Klick1108

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? NA teams scrim against SA teams... T2 has NA vs SA in the finals for promotion... A lot of SA players also play on NA servers (texas server for example where SA pros tend to play)

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gg321

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i know for a fact no teams situated past mexico play in NA servers

continue thread →

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Klick1108

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they're stuck in 2021

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Klick1108

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? It's because EMEA playerbase = NA + SA playerbase based on the number of players.

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gg321

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now do emea population vs americas population

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Klick1108

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Population? Not valorant playerbase population buddy?

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Conceit

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I don't get how us not considering Americas before it happened matters at all. We're just talking how leagues were distributed prefranchising, region unity before the regions as they are today were established doesn't mean anything

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laeDLaer

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you are so stupid lmao

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kanyenum1fan

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and yall want to claim gambits win

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laeDLaer

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majority of us live on the European part of Russia.

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kanyenum1fan

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There is no argument for it, they haven’t won since tokyo

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milfman

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just because russia isnt in the european union doesnt change the fact it is still in the continent of europe

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kanyenum1fan

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hardly

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RzqoFoxie

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In 2024, everything

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kanyefan4238173

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americas > emea but you cant be so retarded to say that russia and the gambit players didnt represent europe

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valkin

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i’m waiting for sentinelmains dumbass to say some retarded shit 😭

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Demon1_The_GOAT

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Since Aspas is no longer in LOUD and Demon1 not on a team, Americas has no chance except Zekken Jawgemo and Keznit.
EMEA superior right now with TH and FNC while KC and FUT aren't bad as well.

Don't even mention 100pigs and G2chokes.

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babysasuke

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You just said 3 Americas teams have a chance and only 2 good EMEA teams lol

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Demon1_The_GOAT

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Yeah but what are the chances besides SEN only. Jawgemo can't carry EG by himself and Keznit + Shyy failed last time to too. But we shall see!

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soraorganik

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3 times winning the tournament with the less teams and less competition? yeah i can see why eu>americas. also, NA fans don't count loud championship as yours. that's a win for Brazil. don't include yourself in that.

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Americas is the best region, there is no doubt about that.