I don't know how much have we improved since, but holy fuck I didn't know our 2023 ascension teams was this bad
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PACIFIC won like 4 super close matches against EMEA (PRX 2-1 KC, PRX 2-1 TH, GENG 2-1 FNC, GENG 3-2 TH). only PRX and GENG btw. the rest of PACIFIC is ass)
- LOUD (way worse than KC and TH at Madrid - you can compare LOUD's results against PRX and SEN with KC and TH's results against PRX and SEN) beat 2 chinese teams to fluke into playoffs. everyone knows this
- KC and TH had 0 international experience when going to Madrid. Yet they still put up such close games to PRX and SEN (super experienced).
- TH also had a sub patitek (only 3.5 weeks practice before kickoff) while other teams (like SEN) had 6 months of practice and TH werent at their full power.
stfu lmfao
also EMEA had the best average placement at Shanghai (4.6). AMER: 5.3. PAC: 5.6. CN: 9.
All im hearing is excuses. EDG beat PRX in madrid, but KC which is hyped to win the tournament and TH with home advantage couldn't. U seen how shit EDG is in Shanghai so thats a. Massive L
Fnatic(super experienced btw) won a total of 0 international game this season
TH only win outside of CN team is G2. (For what it's worth i think they are a decent team) edit : i forgot about 100t
Geng is 3-3 in pacific, Prx also lost in pacific. Drx with the best record in pacific actually did not go to international event. To put this in perspective, Geng is 10-1 in international
If anything EMEA is more top heavy with TH with their roster instability still dominating most teams. Navi was crushed multiple times. KC fell ott. Fut plays too deranged to actually be a good team, i have no idea why fnc is crumbling.
Sure outside of MIBR and Furia, Pacific have the 4 worst team, but when the 7th placed team (RRQ) beats Geng, and the 6th(TS) stomped PRX the mid table is not that bad. I can see an argument that Americas is better in the midtable(but they have the 2 worst teams) but not EMEA
No rebuttal just name calling, classic.
Yes i watch emea , the schedule is nice for me to watch before sleep. If anything i don't watch most Americas match.
"MY EYE TEST SAYS EMEA IS GOOD" Is not a reliable way of determining a regions strength, it's biased and extremely unreliable. The fact you base your assumptions on that just show how uneducated you are, as anyone who have written any paper will know that eye test means nothing at all.
you say gen.g has lost multiple times in pacific which means pacific has good teams, then in the next breath you say TH "dominating most teams". TH went 3-3 just like gen.g and navi has only lost to TH and BBL since the beginning of the year. using your argument: since a mid team like BBL can beat navi, does that mean emea mid table is very strong?
your arguments are overall horrible and we both know very well the pacific teams excluding PRX, gen.g and MAYBE drx are all ass. T1 are even worse than fut, fnc are better than drx. BBL, Vitality, and even TL are all better than the mid table pacific teams
They went 3-2 actually. But yes i thought they went 4-1 because i just remembered the BBL lost. So we are both wrong.
But assuming they have the same record(they did not) , that is no argument to say which league is more top heavy, and also kept in mind the woot patitek th never played in EMEA.
The rest of the things you say are just assumptions. Drx actually beat geng once unlike fnatic (that doesn't mean they are better mind you, but thats the only point of comparison we got) . Fut vs T1 is the only objective thing there as both teams run into Lev, and one of them finished 6th. But keep in mind T1 is 7th on the table are only in Shanghai because they, unlike any EMEA team can actually beat GENG.
BBL, VIT, TL is better than Talon RRQ and TS? According to whom? None of those teams will ever play each other and comparing them is just based on assumptions. Our only point of comparison is comparing when the teams they play which are PRX and Geng. Both teams have 100% win rate against emea teams(top teams mind u) , but Geng in particular have barelu above 50% win rate vs Pacific teams. Does it means Pacific midtable is better than EMEA ? Not definitively, but its certainly better than "everyone knows"
PAC is a 1.5 team region, but the rest of the teams are wayyyyyyyyyyyy worse.
EMEA is a 2.5 team region (TH 1, FUT .5, FNC .5, KC .5), but the rest of the teams (NAVI, GX, VIT, ...) arent that terrible.
AMER is a 2.25 team region (G2 1, 100T .75, SEN .5), but some teams are terrible (worse than assific - FUR, MIBR)
i dont like TH and G2 being equal to 1 tho.
prx on fraud watch tbh till they get top 3 in champs
the fact that EG (newly formed team with a rookie) and geng (newly formed team with a ranked rookie) outperformed them last year and this year makes u question what the fuck they were doing all these years
like bru lul these players out of nowhere r just coming together and outperforming u
we will see about that in champs americas had mid teams they ddint had best teams from their region and fnc is ass they won that many round because of alfa if he wasnt pulling magic out of his ass than fnc would have gotten shitted on no other team other than TH is gogg you will see at champs when only 1 emea team will qualify to playoffs
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