Shanghai >>>>>>>>>>> Madrid

• Level of play was WAY higher and more consistent
• 12 teams > 8 teams
• current form GENG would’ve slaughtered Madrid (which makes sense to see that they’ve improved a lot considering this is a completely new roster for Meteor)
• 1 mill prize pool > 500k prize pool (1 mill was also Master Tokyo’s btw)

Glad we finally had a relevant tourney since Champs, it’s been almost a year. For all the crybaby SEN fans that think I’m only saying this bc TH made the final, I would be saying the same thing if it was a G2 v 100T final.

Map 3 of FPX v TH felt like it was an upgrade in competition compared to like 95% of the maps we’ve seen in Madrid, and that was a Swiss stage match.

There’s levels to this. Madrid’s only relevance was that it showed GENG’s early potential, that’s it. The winners of the event got regionally fucking grouped lol.

both were 🐭🐁

dort [#2]

both were 🐭🐁

both were good because the bums from your flair weren't there

ButterflyEffect23 [#3]

both were good because the bums from your flair weren't there

NRG knows better than to waste their time farming tier 2 events

ofc 12 teams>> 8 team
more team more competition

Eh I dunno man. I enjoyed both

dort [#4]

NRG knows better than to waste their time farming tier 2 events

even if NRG makes Champs, Billy will knock them out again

they're not winning anything in 2024

Denjisideals [#6]

Eh I dunno man. I enjoyed both

Massive W

dort [#4]

NRG knows better than to waste their time farming tier 2 events

NRG were too busy screwing the Champs MVP with upmost percision, their schedule just couldn’t find room to qualify for anything

just say you hate sen

ButterflyEffect23 [#7]

even if NRG makes Champs, Billy will knock them out again

they're not winning anything in 2024

bilibili is a distant memory now. dont bring those frauds up

TheAceGamer30 [#10]

just say you hate sen

I hate SEN? It’s not my fault that they got grouped in their own region losing to teams like EG and an imploding LOUD, I’m just saying what’s true

Sen > Geng
Geng > TH
Prx < G2
Loud > 100t
KC < PRX
Edg = FUT
TH > FNC
FPX > EDG
Honestly I don’t think the level of play differed that much, loud and Prx got high placing at Madrid eventhough they weren’t playing great due to lack of competition and G2 made a run at shanghai due to opposition crumbling

Overall Sen and GenG looked like the only good teams at Madrid(loud were crazy inconsistent) and TH and GenG looked like the only good teams at shanghai, except the gap between the two was slightly bigger, I would say that u have to keep the fact that GenG struggled to find scrims and weren’t at their 100% and TH had a sub in mind when comparing average level of play

Pengu12 [#13]

Sen > Geng
Geng > TH
Prx < G2
Loud > 100t
KC < PRX
Edg = FUT
TH > FNC
FPX > EDG
Honestly I don’t think the level of play differed that much, loud and Prx got high placing at Madrid eventhough they weren’t playing great due to lack of competition and G2 made a run at shanghai due to opposition crumbling

Overall Sen and GenG looked like the only good teams at Madrid(loud were crazy inconsistent) and TH and GenG looked like the only good teams at shanghai, except the gap between the two was slightly bigger, I would say that u have to keep the fact that GenG struggled to find scrims and weren’t at their 100% and TH had a sub in mind when comparing average level of play

1st line gave the shitpost away, nt though

Pengu12 [#13]

Sen > Geng
Geng > TH
Prx < G2
Loud > 100t
KC < PRX
Edg = FUT
TH > FNC
FPX > EDG
Honestly I don’t think the level of play differed that much, loud and Prx got high placing at Madrid eventhough they weren’t playing great due to lack of competition and G2 made a run at shanghai due to opposition crumbling

Overall Sen and GenG looked like the only good teams at Madrid(loud were crazy inconsistent) and TH and GenG looked like the only good teams at shanghai, except the gap between the two was slightly bigger, I would say that u have to keep the fact that GenG struggled to find scrims and weren’t at their 100% and TH had a sub in mind when comparing average level of play

Agreed

boasterKEKW [#12]

I hate SEN? It’s not my fault that they got grouped in their own region losing to teams like EG and an imploding LOUD, I’m just saying what’s true

I saw your pickims you put sen to go 0-4 like you know that’s not happening your just hating bro

boasterKEKW [#12]

I hate SEN? It’s not my fault that they got grouped in their own region losing to teams like EG and an imploding LOUD, I’m just saying what’s true

Wdym imploding?

TheAceGamer30 [#16]

I saw your pickims you put sen to go 0-4 like you know that’s not happening your just hating bro

they’re vsing genuinely hard teams and I’m basing off the fact that they looked pretty mid in Stage 1, their most recent event. Stop crying about my Pickems freak lol.

boasterKEKW [#12]

I hate SEN? It’s not my fault that they got grouped in their own region losing to teams like EG and an imploding LOUD, I’m just saying what’s true

alr, who are the clowns down fragging this?

cloudberry [#17]

Wdym imploding?

in terms of their chem + qck shitting the bed

dort [#11]

bilibili is a distant memory now. dont bring those frauds up

Cove, shorty, cgrs, pearl, bili jumpscare, toxic screen ,whzy , judge

cloudberry [#17]

Wdym imploding?

Idk cus loud didn’t play that bad they just got unlucky

lsd_abuser [#21]

Cove, shorty, cgrs, pearl, bili jumpscare, toxic screen ,whzy , judge

.....

boasterKEKW [#18]

they’re vsing genuinely hard teams and I’m basing off the fact that they looked pretty mid in Stage 1, their most recent event. Stop crying about my Pickems freak lol.

lmao you actually think kru and c9 are hard teams holy ur delusional

boasterKEKW [#20]

in terms of their chem + qck shitting the bed

Sentinels played a LOUD that was regaining their stride. Also qck played well and diffed zekken on both maps. So no, they didn't implode

cloudberry [#25]

Sentinels played a LOUD that was regaining their stride. Also qck played well and diffed zekken on both maps. So no, they didn't implode

Yeah qck did play good against sen and g2, idk how that’s imploding

TheAceGamer30 [#24]

lmao you actually think kru and c9 are hard teams holy ur delusional

I refuse to believe you aren’t some spy sent to make SEN fans look unbelievably stupid. KRU and C9 aren’t hard teams for SEN??? LMAO

dort [#4]

NRG knows better than to waste their time farming tier 2 events

Yeah, they don't want to waste their time, that is why they made a roster change

lsd_abuser [#21]

Cove, shorty, cgrs, pearl, bili jumpscare, toxic screen ,whzy , judge

the whole package😭😭

cloudberry [#25]

Sentinels played a LOUD that was regaining their stride. Also qck played well and diffed zekken on both maps. So no, they didn't implode

they suddenly regain their stride after losing 5 matches in a row when they have to face SEN, totally 👍

boasterKEKW [#27]

I refuse to believe you aren’t some spy sent to make SEN fans look unbelievably stupid. KRU and C9 aren’t hard teams for SEN??? LMAO

Respectfully, you do know SEN can play well again right? Like, they suffered from burnout, but they've had a break now. It's really not that hard to imagine they'd pop off in stage 2.

StutterSt3p [#31]

Respectfully, you do know SEN can play well again right? Like, they suffered from burnout, but they've had a break now. It's really not that hard to imagine they'd pop off in stage 2.

And it’s also really not that hard to imagine that they will lose to C9, KRU, NRG, and G2, what’s your point. They can still play well but it’s not like that’s enough for them to win against those teams if they also play well. NRG vs SEN is imo the only outlier I guess.

boasterKEKW [#32]

And it’s also really not that hard to imagine that they will lose to C9, KRU, NRG, and G2, what’s your point. They can still play well but it’s not like that’s enough for them to win against those teams if they also play well. NRG vs SEN is imo the only outlier I guess.

First of all, C9 is inconsistent, G2 has much less time to prep, we haven't seen this new NRG play, and while KRU did do well in stage 1, it's not like they're unbeatable. This SEN roster is a literal masters winning roster and you think this team can't beat some Americas teams?

StutterSt3p [#33]

First of all, C9 is inconsistent, G2 has much less time to prep, we haven't seen this new NRG play, and while KRU did do well in stage 1, it's not like they're unbeatable. This SEN roster is a literal masters winning roster and you think this team can't beat some Americas teams?

My brother, they quite literally got grouped in the last stage, why is the thought of them losing to even harder competition a fucking shock to you? If you think the fabled masters Madrid winners are gonna beat these puny little Americas teams, that’s cool bro, but I have pretty good reasons not to agree with it lol.

boasterKEKW [#32]

And it’s also really not that hard to imagine that they will lose to C9, KRU, NRG, and G2, what’s your point. They can still play well but it’s not like that’s enough for them to win against those teams if they also play well. NRG vs SEN is imo the only outlier I guess.

amen brother, amen

boasterKEKW [#34]

My brother, they quite literally got grouped in the last stage, why is the thought of them losing to even harder competition a fucking shock to you? If you think the fabled masters Madrid winners are gonna beat these puny little Americas teams, that’s cool bro, but I have pretty good reasons not to agree with it lol.

That's fine for you to not have faith. I'm not saying you have to believe in them. It's just funny how people all of sudden think SEN is bad because they lost a couple games at the end of split 1.

Pengu12 [#13]

Sen > Geng
Geng > TH
Prx < G2
Loud > 100t
KC < PRX
Edg = FUT
TH > FNC
FPX > EDG
Honestly I don’t think the level of play differed that much, loud and Prx got high placing at Madrid eventhough they weren’t playing great due to lack of competition and G2 made a run at shanghai due to opposition crumbling

Overall Sen and GenG looked like the only good teams at Madrid(loud were crazy inconsistent) and TH and GenG looked like the only good teams at shanghai, except the gap between the two was slightly bigger, I would say that u have to keep the fact that GenG struggled to find scrims and weren’t at their 100% and TH had a sub in mind when comparing average level of play

Shanghai Gen.g would slaughter madrid Sentinels stop it. Sentinels deserved Madrid but they didn't perform better than Shanghai Gen.g.

lsd_abuser [#21]

Cove, shorty, cgrs, pearl, bili jumpscare, toxic screen ,whzy , judge

don't forget our favorite double agent

boasterKEKW [#32]

And it’s also really not that hard to imagine that they will lose to C9, KRU, NRG, and G2, what’s your point. They can still play well but it’s not like that’s enough for them to win against those teams if they also play well. NRG vs SEN is imo the only outlier I guess.

hard to imagine they lose to nrg bro 😭😭😭

boasterKEKW [#34]

My brother, they quite literally got grouped in the last stage, why is the thought of them losing to even harder competition a fucking shock to you? If you think the fabled masters Madrid winners are gonna beat these puny little Americas teams, that’s cool bro, but I have pretty good reasons not to agree with it lol.

Why is the thought of them having very limited roll over time going into stage 1 playing a factor as to why they got grouped?

wowwww so the tournament that occured halfway into the season where the teams got months of game reps had higher level of play than the tournament that happened early season?? my mind is blown by this new info

Pengu12 [#13]

Sen > Geng
Geng > TH
Prx < G2
Loud > 100t
KC < PRX
Edg = FUT
TH > FNC
FPX > EDG
Honestly I don’t think the level of play differed that much, loud and Prx got high placing at Madrid eventhough they weren’t playing great due to lack of competition and G2 made a run at shanghai due to opposition crumbling

Overall Sen and GenG looked like the only good teams at Madrid(loud were crazy inconsistent) and TH and GenG looked like the only good teams at shanghai, except the gap between the two was slightly bigger, I would say that u have to keep the fact that GenG struggled to find scrims and weren’t at their 100% and TH had a sub in mind when comparing average level of play

Midrid LOUD beat a washed EDG and an FPX that only had two players firing. I'd place 100T above them.

WalmartTenz [#40]

Why is the thought of them having very limited roll over time going into stage 1 playing a factor as to why they got grouped?

like that stopped GENG lol, cry me a river

Loomer [#41]

wowwww so the tournament that occured halfway into the season where the teams got months of game reps had higher level of play than the tournament that happened early season?? my mind is blown by this new info

This is like acting sarcastic when scientists say that the earth is indeed round, there are stupid people that need to hear the truth bro. If you think what I’m saying is obvious then good job I’m proud of you

and sen still has a trophy despite this post

All valorant “majors” are a garbage format and extremely anticlimactic
MORE international lans pleeeease and no more double elim playoffs pleeeeassseee. seasons/splits should be a part of yearly competition not the entire thing… this is an esport not fucking football nobody needs a weeks rest between games and there’s way to much random luck in valorant to only play ~10 games in a year ??????

boasterKEKW [#44]

This is like acting sarcastic when scientists say that the earth is indeed round, there are stupid people that need to hear the truth bro. If you think what I’m saying is obvious then good job I’m proud of you

except your post is not for the purpose of shedding truth. it's to try to discredit the results of madrid. you claim to be not just be saying this to shit on sen only to proceed on the same exact post to highlight their stage 1 performance and say how the tournament was only good for showing another team's potential instead of accepting their win. stop trying to passively come across as the "logical" one here

boasterKEKW [#43]

like that stopped GENG lol, cry me a river

geng won the same amount of games as sen, and also lost the same amount of games, it’s just that their group was full of shitters that going 3-3 allowed them to qualify

nobody___100 [#48]

geng won the same amount of games as sen, and also lost the same amount of games, it’s just that their group was full of shitters that going 3-3 allowed them to qualify

literally true, it came down to counting rounds in another game for this format when it came to sen

Valorant tournaments are shit

Loomer [#47]

except your post is not for the purpose of shedding truth. it's to try to discredit the results of madrid. you claim to be not just be saying this to shit on sen only to proceed on the same exact post to highlight their stage 1 performance and say how the tournament was only good for showing another team's potential instead of accepting their win. stop trying to passively come across as the "logical" one here

Funny how you think I’m discrediting the results of Madrid and then only highlight me bashing SEN like I didn’t just praise GENG for their stint there. Winners of the tourney got grouped right after, facts are facts. Call it discrediting if you want idc as long as it highlights that Madrid is nothing compared to Shanghai.

Loomer [#49]

literally true, it came down to counting rounds in another game for this format when it came to sen

Didn’t know u were a SEN gobbler damn, also SEN would’ve qualified if they won 9 maps like GENG btw!

lsd_abuser [#21]

Cove, shorty, cgrs, pearl, bili jumpscare, toxic screen ,whzy , judge

what was the toxic screen one?

boasterKEKW [#51]

Funny how you think I’m discrediting the results of Madrid and then only highlight me bashing SEN like I didn’t just praise GENG for their stint there. Winners of the tourney got grouped right after, facts are facts. Call it discrediting if you want idc as long as it highlights that Madrid is nothing compared to Shanghai.

its not the fact that you praised gen g. they deserve their flowers throughout both tournaments. but to say madrid is ONLY good for showing gen g's potential while not even acknowledging that sen went on a great run during the tournament as well is still discrediting it. comparing the two tournaments with different circumstances is pointless.

Denjisideals [#6]

Eh I dunno man. I enjoyed both

W

Kei8 [#53]

what was the toxic screen one?

Yosemite blind double kill on bind through screen iirc

boasterKEKW [#43]

like that stopped GENG lol, cry me a river

Ofc it didn't because they have a significantly easier region to qualify from.

Most of america hate Shanghai because their favorite team (Sen) didn't even qualify and create "What if" alternate universe, also 100T & G2 eliminated by EMEA team with Sub and it is not even close match

tourney was great but grands was a huge letdown imo