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G2 Kicked out

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caspiann

Since they come from Ascension, they'll get kicked out from franchising after their 2nd year right? No matter if they win any tournaments?

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yes

#3
ButterflyEffect23
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yeah, they'd be kicked anyway

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KITTT
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what kinda bullshit is that? should just add relegation

#5
BrotherMan
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I think once EG leaves, RIOT will give G2 their spot

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Mortadelo
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BrotherMan [#5]

I think once EG leaves, RIOT will give G2 their spot

Don't think that will happen contracts expire in 2026

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KITTT [#4]

what kinda bullshit is that? should just add relegation

Tbf, they never ascended in the first place either

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ButterflyEffect23 [#3]

yeah, they'd be kicked anyway

?? It's so stupid though.. I get that they want sustainable teams to be in the league to make sure the esports stays relevant, but there's no way they betray the skilled teams that keep their tournaments watchable

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KITTT
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Mortadelo [#6]

Don't think that will happen contracts expire in 2026

is all of this a thing in every region?

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KITTT [#9]

is all of this a thing in every region?

yes

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theres a decent chance g2 could potentially receive egs spot in franchising as eg is leaving competitive gaming

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Mortadelo [#7]

Tbf, they never ascended in the first place either

The Guard did, but then decided to disband the team due to... reasons. Then G2 bought the team as they didn't get a spot in VCT, allegedly due to the Ocelote/Tate incident.

G2 didn't win Ascension, TGRD did.

If Riot wants to keep 10 teams and have a constant flux of 2 Ascension teams, add relegation. Let them fight for their spot.

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Fedra [#12]

The Guard did, but then decided to disband the team due to... reasons. Then G2 bought the team as they didn't get a spot in VCT, allegedly due to the Ocelote/Tate incident.

G2 didn't win Ascension, TGRD did.

If Riot wants to keep 10 teams and have a constant flux of 2 Ascension teams, add relegation. Let them fight for their spot.

No they should not. Ascension is good as it is why would you allow a financially unstable org like the guard to ascend, we already have enough scandals with the ones that are supposed to be controlled.

And no they should not add relegation, teams can change from 1 year to another. If there was relegation KRU and TH would be gone, and we would have random orgs with no fans and mid rosters like Apeks instead

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Necromectric [#11]

theres a decent chance g2 could potentially receive egs spot in franchising as eg is leaving competitive gaming

isnt eg only a t1 team because g2 was disqualified anyways? seems like it would make sense for g2 to get the spot

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KITTT [#4]

what kinda bullshit is that? should just add relegation

they wont add relegation bc they know all the LATAM+Brazil teams would get relegated first.

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caspiann [#8]

?? It's so stupid though.. I get that they want sustainable teams to be in the league to make sure the esports stays relevant, but there's no way they betray the skilled teams that keep their tournaments watchable

Thats franchising for you. There is not enough spaces and orgs are too broke for players that should be in tier 1.

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KITTT [#4]

what kinda bullshit is that? should just add relegation

They won't add relegation because riot has contracts with the orgs. They should have relegation tho. That would be so much better than kicking them after 2 years.

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Mortadelo [#6]

Don't think that will happen contracts expire in 2026

Meh idk. EG might just leave for next year. The only reason why they are still in this year is because riot forced them.

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KITTT [#4]

what kinda bullshit is that? should just add relegation

If there was relegation, VCT would never exist as there are no 30 orgs in the world that would sign up for a place where their spot is not guaranteed

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ortuh
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tungsten_cube [#14]

isnt eg only a t1 team because g2 was disqualified anyways? seems like it would make sense for g2 to get the spot

Nah it was c9 who took g2s spot back last year when it all kicked off

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tungsten_cube [#14]

isnt eg only a t1 team because g2 was disqualified anyways? seems like it would make sense for g2 to get the spot

It was c9 I think that got a spot instead of g2.

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Ballsamolee [#21]

It was c9 I think that got a spot instead of g2.

oh alr mb

#23
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Ballsamolee [#18]

Meh idk. EG might just leave for next year. The only reason why they are still in this year is because riot forced them.

What makes you think they won’t be forced again, who knows what clauses are on that contract

Plus if they were to replace them now they can’t give it to G2 because that would leave Americas with one less team

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Mortadelo [#13]

No they should not. Ascension is good as it is why would you allow a financially unstable org like the guard to ascend, we already have enough scandals with the ones that are supposed to be controlled.

And no they should not add relegation, teams can change from 1 year to another. If there was relegation KRU and TH would be gone, and we would have random orgs with no fans and mid rosters like Apeks instead

The Relegation I planted meant as a Relegation only for the 2 Ascension teams.

10 fixed teams (iirc, their spot lasts for 4 years who just continue if Riot says so after the 4 years)
2 Ascension teams (one of them looses its spot in VCT annually and fights in Relegation to keep the spot against the tier 2 team)

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Fedra [#24]

The Relegation I planted meant as a Relegation only for the 2 Ascension teams.

10 fixed teams (iirc, their spot lasts for 4 years who just continue if Riot says so after the 4 years)
2 Ascension teams (one of them looses its spot in VCT annually and fights in Relegation to keep the spot against the tier 2 team)

Alright fair enough, I do agree with that one, mb. Good idea

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TM06Nick [#19]

If there was relegation, VCT would never exist as there are no 30 orgs in the world that would sign up for a place where their spot is not guaranteed

it´s guaranteed if they perform well

#27
pHm
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Why the fuck is relegation not a thing?

#28
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy
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pHm [#27]

Why the fuck is relegation not a thing?

idk its sooooo mysterious riot has only talked about it like a dozen times

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KITTT
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Ballsamolee [#17]

They won't add relegation because riot has contracts with the orgs. They should have relegation tho. That would be so much better than kicking them after 2 years.

how does the 2 year thing work? a team wins ascension and only gets 2 years no matter what? that´s just braindead to me

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KITTT [#4]

what kinda bullshit is that? should just add relegation

cry is free

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Ballsamolee
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KITTT [#29]

how does the 2 year thing work? a team wins ascension and only gets 2 years no matter what? that´s just braindead to me

Yeah. If the team is successful tho they could hope an org can sign their whole team. Otherwise they would just split up or compete together again in tier 2.

#32
Yeetus
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pretty sure they get to play at ascension to keep their spot again?

#33
Ballsamolee
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Yeetus [#32]

pretty sure they get to play at ascension to keep their spot again?

If that's true that is good then, but that would also be scary for the tier 2 teams because what if that team is a world champion?

#34
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wasn't there a special ruling for a good performing ascension team to be considered to extend their stay at the league?

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sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy
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bearmans [#34]

wasn't there a special ruling for a good performing ascension team to be considered to extend their stay at the league?

no

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Mortadelo [#13]

No they should not. Ascension is good as it is why would you allow a financially unstable org like the guard to ascend, we already have enough scandals with the ones that are supposed to be controlled.

And no they should not add relegation, teams can change from 1 year to another. If there was relegation KRU and TH would be gone, and we would have random orgs with no fans and mid rosters like Apeks instead

That's a great idea actually,, keep the sustainable orgs that bring their fanbase, while ascension teams that deserve to be there get a chance to stay.

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caspiann [#8]

?? It's so stupid though.. I get that they want sustainable teams to be in the league to make sure the esports stays relevant, but there's no way they betray the skilled teams that keep their tournaments watchable

I assume if teams like EG dont step up the slots would go for G2 and EG will be kicked cause aint no way Riot keep and unstable ORG like EG instead of an ORG like G2.

#38
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bearmans [#34]

wasn't there a special ruling for a good performing ascension team to be considered to extend their stay at the league?

Bro is just making up rules

#39
bearmans
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Yangguizi [#38]

Bro is just making up rules

i swear to God i heard it somewhere

#40
Nisham
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They can prob get added permanently when the contracts with all the other orgs expire and they want to replace a bad org who never tried

#41
kyro1
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caspiann [#8]

?? It's so stupid though.. I get that they want sustainable teams to be in the league to make sure the esports stays relevant, but there's no way they betray the skilled teams that keep their tournaments watchable

it wont happen g2 is locked for a perminent spot even tho they have a 2 year contract no chance they get relegated before mibr or eg

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Fedra
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Mortadelo [#13]

No they should not. Ascension is good as it is why would you allow a financially unstable org like the guard to ascend, we already have enough scandals with the ones that are supposed to be controlled.

And no they should not add relegation, teams can change from 1 year to another. If there was relegation KRU and TH would be gone, and we would have random orgs with no fans and mid rosters like Apeks instead

With how I explained it, it did sound off. Mb too

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