Since they come from Ascension, they'll get kicked out from franchising after their 2nd year right? No matter if they win any tournaments?
BrotherMan [#5]I think once EG leaves, RIOT will give G2 their spot
Don't think that will happen contracts expire in 2026
KITTT [#4]what kinda bullshit is that? should just add relegation
Tbf, they never ascended in the first place either
ButterflyEffect23 [#3]yeah, they'd be kicked anyway
?? It's so stupid though.. I get that they want sustainable teams to be in the league to make sure the esports stays relevant, but there's no way they betray the skilled teams that keep their tournaments watchable
Mortadelo [#6]Don't think that will happen contracts expire in 2026
is all of this a thing in every region?
Mortadelo [#7]Tbf, they never ascended in the first place either
The Guard did, but then decided to disband the team due to... reasons. Then G2 bought the team as they didn't get a spot in VCT, allegedly due to the Ocelote/Tate incident.
G2 didn't win Ascension, TGRD did.
If Riot wants to keep 10 teams and have a constant flux of 2 Ascension teams, add relegation. Let them fight for their spot.
Fedra [#12]The Guard did, but then decided to disband the team due to... reasons. Then G2 bought the team as they didn't get a spot in VCT, allegedly due to the Ocelote/Tate incident.
G2 didn't win Ascension, TGRD did.
If Riot wants to keep 10 teams and have a constant flux of 2 Ascension teams, add relegation. Let them fight for their spot.
No they should not. Ascension is good as it is why would you allow a financially unstable org like the guard to ascend, we already have enough scandals with the ones that are supposed to be controlled.
And no they should not add relegation, teams can change from 1 year to another. If there was relegation KRU and TH would be gone, and we would have random orgs with no fans and mid rosters like Apeks instead
Necromectric [#11]theres a decent chance g2 could potentially receive egs spot in franchising as eg is leaving competitive gaming
isnt eg only a t1 team because g2 was disqualified anyways? seems like it would make sense for g2 to get the spot
KITTT [#4]what kinda bullshit is that? should just add relegation
they wont add relegation bc they know all the LATAM+Brazil teams would get relegated first.
caspiann [#8]?? It's so stupid though.. I get that they want sustainable teams to be in the league to make sure the esports stays relevant, but there's no way they betray the skilled teams that keep their tournaments watchable
Thats franchising for you. There is not enough spaces and orgs are too broke for players that should be in tier 1.
KITTT [#4]what kinda bullshit is that? should just add relegation
They won't add relegation because riot has contracts with the orgs. They should have relegation tho. That would be so much better than kicking them after 2 years.
Mortadelo [#6]Don't think that will happen contracts expire in 2026
Meh idk. EG might just leave for next year. The only reason why they are still in this year is because riot forced them.
KITTT [#4]what kinda bullshit is that? should just add relegation
If there was relegation, VCT would never exist as there are no 30 orgs in the world that would sign up for a place where their spot is not guaranteed
tungsten_cube [#14]isnt eg only a t1 team because g2 was disqualified anyways? seems like it would make sense for g2 to get the spot
Nah it was c9 who took g2s spot back last year when it all kicked off
tungsten_cube [#14]isnt eg only a t1 team because g2 was disqualified anyways? seems like it would make sense for g2 to get the spot
It was c9 I think that got a spot instead of g2.
Ballsamolee [#18]Meh idk. EG might just leave for next year. The only reason why they are still in this year is because riot forced them.
What makes you think they won’t be forced again, who knows what clauses are on that contract
Plus if they were to replace them now they can’t give it to G2 because that would leave Americas with one less team
Mortadelo [#13]No they should not. Ascension is good as it is why would you allow a financially unstable org like the guard to ascend, we already have enough scandals with the ones that are supposed to be controlled.
And no they should not add relegation, teams can change from 1 year to another. If there was relegation KRU and TH would be gone, and we would have random orgs with no fans and mid rosters like Apeks instead
The Relegation I planted meant as a Relegation only for the 2 Ascension teams.
10 fixed teams (iirc, their spot lasts for 4 years who just continue if Riot says so after the 4 years)
2 Ascension teams (one of them looses its spot in VCT annually and fights in Relegation to keep the spot against the tier 2 team)
Fedra [#24]The Relegation I planted meant as a Relegation only for the 2 Ascension teams.
10 fixed teams (iirc, their spot lasts for 4 years who just continue if Riot says so after the 4 years)
2 Ascension teams (one of them looses its spot in VCT annually and fights in Relegation to keep the spot against the tier 2 team)
Alright fair enough, I do agree with that one, mb. Good idea
TM06Nick [#19]If there was relegation, VCT would never exist as there are no 30 orgs in the world that would sign up for a place where their spot is not guaranteed
it´s guaranteed if they perform well
pHm [#27]Why the fuck is relegation not a thing?
idk its sooooo mysterious riot has only talked about it like a dozen times
Ballsamolee [#17]They won't add relegation because riot has contracts with the orgs. They should have relegation tho. That would be so much better than kicking them after 2 years.
how does the 2 year thing work? a team wins ascension and only gets 2 years no matter what? that´s just braindead to me
KITTT [#29]how does the 2 year thing work? a team wins ascension and only gets 2 years no matter what? that´s just braindead to me
Yeah. If the team is successful tho they could hope an org can sign their whole team. Otherwise they would just split up or compete together again in tier 2.
Yeetus [#32]pretty sure they get to play at ascension to keep their spot again?
If that's true that is good then, but that would also be scary for the tier 2 teams because what if that team is a world champion?
bearmans [#34]wasn't there a special ruling for a good performing ascension team to be considered to extend their stay at the league?
no
Mortadelo [#13]No they should not. Ascension is good as it is why would you allow a financially unstable org like the guard to ascend, we already have enough scandals with the ones that are supposed to be controlled.
And no they should not add relegation, teams can change from 1 year to another. If there was relegation KRU and TH would be gone, and we would have random orgs with no fans and mid rosters like Apeks instead
That's a great idea actually,, keep the sustainable orgs that bring their fanbase, while ascension teams that deserve to be there get a chance to stay.
caspiann [#8]?? It's so stupid though.. I get that they want sustainable teams to be in the league to make sure the esports stays relevant, but there's no way they betray the skilled teams that keep their tournaments watchable
I assume if teams like EG dont step up the slots would go for G2 and EG will be kicked cause aint no way Riot keep and unstable ORG like EG instead of an ORG like G2.
bearmans [#34]wasn't there a special ruling for a good performing ascension team to be considered to extend their stay at the league?
Bro is just making up rules
caspiann [#8]?? It's so stupid though.. I get that they want sustainable teams to be in the league to make sure the esports stays relevant, but there's no way they betray the skilled teams that keep their tournaments watchable
it wont happen g2 is locked for a perminent spot even tho they have a 2 year contract no chance they get relegated before mibr or eg
Mortadelo [#13]No they should not. Ascension is good as it is why would you allow a financially unstable org like the guard to ascend, we already have enough scandals with the ones that are supposed to be controlled.
And no they should not add relegation, teams can change from 1 year to another. If there was relegation KRU and TH would be gone, and we would have random orgs with no fans and mid rosters like Apeks instead
With how I explained it, it did sound off. Mb too