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best igl of all time?

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#1
theycallmetheBEST

i think it's a mix between fns and vanity

thoughts?

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Speedspaghetti
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ange1

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sentinelmain377
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Top 5 is Saadhak Boaster FNS Ange1 and like Boostio/Stax in no order

Its kinda hard to give a clear best igl rn

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Speedspaghetti
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this was a joke

#49
sentinelmain377
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ange1 IS a top 5 igl tho
his team may not be the best rn, but he is still a good "IGL"

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Psion
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he's 100% top 5, but i wouldn't rate him higher than 4

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froggy_lol
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bro snuck in vanity and thought we wouldn't notice

#4
FireII
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vanity 💀

#5
cloudberry
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I'm all for Saadhak

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Anoymouse
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ye idk wtf these guys are still supporting fns when he lost to fucking billi billi

Sadhaak clears

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGAIN

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cloudberry
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Don't get me wrong, I support FNS. Just because he lost to a specific team doesn't mean FNS isn't a great igl. I just prefer Saadhak because he's way more innovative than FNS is.

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Minimise probably

#8
Zaba
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Bro said Vanity💀💀💀

Maybe 100% fns and 0% vanity

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froggy_lol
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How about 50% fns and 50% saadhak, i want this player hitting shots

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Zaba
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Jajaj, i know. But mine would be

35% fns, no need to explain.
35% saadhak, no need to explain.
10% boostio, his charisma and hype to the rest of the team.
10% bonkar, the goat of midrounding, this man made almost Made internationals with yacine on duelist, draken and HIMSELF who have less aim than fns, he is the goat.
10% kingg+scream, the two greatest fraggings igls

#20
nobody___100
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well i mean if you have scream then put f0rsaken no?

#21
Zaba
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Forsaken is not the igl like every team have. Prx is a special case. But scream was a pure igl of his team

#24
finnwithtwons
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kingg and scream have pretty low calling quality, johnqt is probably a better example of a "fragging igl" considering he actually has solid calling quality

#29
Zaba
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With 90% of top calling igls i don't think that 10% of "Bad" calling igls would affect. For that i put the 2 best players that were consistently igls

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Wichyy
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fns fs

#11
bonkashi
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at peak its boaster
all time saadhak
in tokyo/lockin boasters calls were completely unmatched, fnatic played so well as a team and had all the right reads
all time though saadhak has been more consistent and done loads even with big roster changes and losing some of his best players

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AT PEAK IT IS NOT BOASTER LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO
Saadhak 2022 champs playoffs went 7-1 vs optic and DRX, 2 of the best teams singular event teams ever.
peak was saadhak 2022 champs, he had chamber meta down to a science

#18
froggy_lol
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IM CRYING

HE ACTUALLY SAID BOASTER

#32
Psion
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WHY ARE WE GETTING DOWNVOTED

#36
froggy_lol
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They hate the truth.

#MVGA

#39
sentinelmain377
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bro what?

Peak is Boaster period. no team has just been able to dominate like that (not lose any games for 2 tournaments in a row)
Boaster has also taken 4 roster variations to LAN and gotten minimum top 6 placements every time (except in Reykjavik 2022 when they had 2 subs)

#45
froggy_lol
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Saadhak better

#51
sentinelmain377
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PEAK is boaster
OVERALL is probly easily Saadhak, if not FNS

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Psion
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sure he has the best 2 tournament run(only thing that's close is, saadhak over lock\in/champs 22) but saadhak's champs playoffs run was more impressive and better than either lock\in or tokyo individually, and thus his peak was higher

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dezzo
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at peak its boaster

br*tish flag checks out

#33
dort
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average brit flag

#13
asuuuuuuuuu
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feel like boaster , saadhak , and fns are the big 3 of igls

#14
bearmans
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saadhak clears everyone.
but if boaster can somehow bring it back to GF in shanghai, i'll consider him to be on par with saadhak.

#15
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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blud said vanity AINTNOWAY

Saadhak gaps everyone

#22
TheAqif
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broski said vanity 💀💀

#23
DeyahAlAjarma
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fns in my head is the clear 1 based off of how he can turn shitties into goats and without him they are shitties (yay crashies victor marved were all best in role with him and without theyre shit, s0m was a bottom t1 player and fns turned him into top 3 smokes itw ardiis doesnt count because double agent)
boostio is 2 for the same reason (demon1 ethan c0m on eg vs on current teams, 100T before boostio vs with him), but only below fns because he has potter/zikz where chet is more of a hinderance than help
saadhak is 3 because he kept up with fns and turned rookies (aspas less pancada into literal world champions and cauanzin and tuyz into top t1 players)
from their it gets tricky because lots of igls havent been at the top for long enough to consider (boo mrfalin johnqt munchkin etc) or are carried by their team and cant get anything done without 3 players dropping 30 every map (boaster)

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nobody___100
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i'd put saadhak higher than boostio because he's done it for longer

#27
DeyahAlAjarma
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lots of eu frogs downvoting anyone speaking the truth about their shitty igl queen

#38
froggy_lol
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Please don’t put frogs and eu in the same sentence. I don’t want the affiliation.

#28
espeon
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  1. saadhak
  2. fns
  3. boaster/boostio
    cant rank anyone else
#43
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Agree, I think that if 100T manage to win this event somehow then Boostio moves up to #2

#30
ayayaay
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saadhak clears

#31
envyz
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did this guy just say vanity?

#34
vate
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dude said vanity im actually fking crying 😭

#35
vate
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aye on a real note tho if 100t manage to win this event boostio has to be put in top 5

#40
TooCaution_Heartless
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boostio is

#41
thenutoriousPRO
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boostio

#42
1007
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Saadhak. Boostio 🔜

#44
fatdaddy
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its hella early for tier1, but i'm throwing johnqt out there for future consideration

#46
Wronghand
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Boaster is an option for the early 2023 success, plut he's got top 8 at every champs and made an international every year. But, he's more accomplishments than player imo.

Boostio is the newest here. He uses his pieces amazingly, won a champs, won a regional split, and was in the Grand finals of a masters his first time there. If 100T does well at shanghai, he's REALLY in the convo. As a player, he's probably the best individual and caller balance. He can shoot and he can call at a really high level.

Then there is Saadhak. In 2022 he only lost to 2 rosters, made 2 grand finals, and won champs. In 2023 he again made all 3 international lans and got top 3 in two of them, including handing the stacked Fnatic roster 2 of their 3 losses that year. He has won multiple brazil splits and an America's split. If you really want accomplishments, here is your guy.

But, then you have a guy without a rating on any agent (with 200 rounds) about 1. What about a guy who had the worst duelist in Apac on his team. A guy who did all of that yet was the first to hand a team with likely the goat of the game and another top 5 of all time player. Never won a regional title. Never won a champs. But nobody in the server is as effective as an IGL as FNS. You all watched NRG play with 2 champs winners instead of him, and they were one of the worst strategic teams in the America's region. Nobody manipulates the game like him. Nobody commands his players like him. Nobody is equal to him as a pure IGL.

Tl;Dr:
Saadhak for accomplishments
Boostio for modern day + role efficiency
Boaster if you're a fnatic fan
FNS for pure IGL abilities

I'm (clearly) an FNS simp, so base it off what you value.

#47
anyonx
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  1. saadhak
  2. fns
  3. boaster
    4 . boostio
    5 . angel/stax
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