I’ve seen a lot of “no good EU team went to Iceland” maybe cause they all lost to either FNC or Liquid back then? Time changes and at that time they were the 2 best to go out represent, if not how come the better teams didn’t make it?
Same goes for NA, “ur gonna get 3-0ed again” or “Liquid lost to subs” this is a new era/meta and a new time anything can happen so saying any of what I mention above is a flaw statement.
Most of the Gambit fans piss me off because they seem so entitled and think they are always right. I dont think Gambit is a bad team its just that their fans think they are untouchable. Some of the Gambit fans are fine with good takes but the other fans think that because some Gambit fans are smart that means that they are too.
Thats not how reakity works, when there i no lower bracket both teams play completly different, andbox wouldve played much safer and sen wouldnt've thrown rounds. When the bracket chamges in theory and the games were to be replayed u basically reroll the odds of sentinels winning. If the odds where 80 last time then tgis time it wouldve been 80 aswell, meaning the chances of sentinels losing in round 1 wouldve been 1/5. Thats how mathematic works dude. Sure the bracket kn eu was shit but u cant take it the other way around and say lne team wouldnt have qualified
you are hypothesising against a guy who served you with an actual fact. What the hell is wrong with you lmao.
If NA had same format as EMEA for stage 2, SEN actually would not have qualified because they got 2-0d by Andbox in challengers 2.
don't talk about how "reality works" when you are yet to grasp it yourself haha. You're just hypothesising how teams "might" have played if the format was different.
I don't subscribe to the whole "best teams didn't rep EU" narrative. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. BUT your argument is so flawed dude.
I mean look at how acend is eliminated before iceland
acend eliminated by an underdog eu team “vitality” which is capable of achieving a lot and upset absolutely anyone.
acend didn’t expect that and 2-0ed by them
and both map scores was (14-12)
acend is eliminated because of two close maps against an underdog eu team, ofc it’s still their fault but the format was just unlucky
Yes in a way they were best, but it was not up to them it was up to other teams that were in top4, some teams had to change roaster just before Iceland after their key player left, some choked hard and some had players that didn't perform perform anymore. Now after roaster changes teams had time to prepare, so Berlin should be more competitive than Iceland.
In iceland, there were 2 S Tier level teams: Sentinels and Fnatic. Sentinels was better. Liquid was on a hot streak regionally and Version1 was playing in the smartest way possible to go that far considering their calibre.
Now, Fnatic has dropped off S Tier due to them outplaying themselves. Sentinels remains. 'EU best teams' have pulled themselves together and so does the other NA best (outside of SEN I mean).
I don't see anything to argue about here. This is just great for us as viewers who want good games.
The weirdest thing was when I was watching Fnatic after iceland, how they changed up almost everything. Imo they had a really good bind and then they changed it to have 3 controllers which I didn't see much value of.
The bizarre thing was watching them coping SEN comp on Haven, even the setups and things like that.
I feel like if they would have played like they did before, they might've achieved a different result than this. I understand Boaster's fear of getting anti stratted tho...
I'm not a fan of either of these teams but its hard to not be a fan of Boaster after Iceland. TL has the potential but they still need to work on certain aspects. I wished they would have gone longer in this tournament.
I feel the same way with VKS because after Iceland they changed the agents of every team member and it didn't pay off even returning to play the same as pre-iceland, but it was too late. If VKS and Fnatic managed to have the same essence but improving in some smaller points, I feel like they would qualify
bro, the thing is EU improves itself constantly. There is always a competition between teams. In that Emea playoff new teams like SMB,VGIA,NAVI showed up. Gambit won the Emea even if they were not even in final at previous tournament. Unlike NA. Na is always the same, sen is champ again and there are always same 3-4 teams that really contest.
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