bring back prime gambit
or
bring back prime optic
OR
bring back prime EG
Hades_Loves_Rb [#10]as much as I love optic...prime EG, you got boostio funny ass making fun of ever other team with dawgemo shitting on everyone with rqaze, demon1 1 tapping the entire other team, c0m lurking spawn every round, and potter having the best reaction to her team doing the craziest shit.
blud forgot ethan
Jinxypoo [#9]how about we bring back the old vct circuit and scrap franchsing?
That was honestly even more unstable than things are now. No motivation to sign a roster as an org if there's no guarantee they can get all the publicity associated with being in the T1 valorant scene.
Most of these orgs just need to get their shit together. They keep/sign garbage players (i.e. mibr, 100T) scramble to organize their comps before the season starts (I.e. furia), or have no roster stability across the season (I.e. c9).
Only benefit to the old system was an influx of new talent coming in each new season. Still happens in the current system though (I.e. wo0t, havoc, keiko, et cetera)
koromast [#11]prime eg lasted 1 event bro bring back prime optic y0y slander started to be repetitive
I like yay, and I don't agree with the hate he's been getting for the genghsta drama, but he is HOT GARBAGE brother. Even in the rounds he looks Stellar, the man always fucks it up. Him and demon1 have been outmoded in the current meta, but the latter still has a good environment around him to at least strive to old form. Imo yay could be a good duelist on an okay NA team, but I think he's lost a lot of motivation. Moving to pacific was a terrible idea for him imo.
Convoy [#19]the only right answer [-sacy +caunzin though]
It's so fucked that you loud fans forget how good he was at that tournament for y'all. In the finals he was your best performer against Optic too. Yes he is going through a bad phase but forgetting the man's services for "prime" Loud is crazy
Shuaaaa [#18]I like yay, and I don't agree with the hate he's been getting for the genghsta drama, but he is HOT GARBAGE brother. Even in the rounds he looks Stellar, the man always fucks it up. Him and demon1 have been outmoded in the current meta, but the latter still has a good environment around him to at least strive to old form. Imo yay could be a good duelist on an okay NA team, but I think he's lost a lot of motivation. Moving to pacific was a terrible idea for him imo.
outmoded by the meta?
you are not sober brotha
Both players are in dysfunctional teams and have the pressure of an impossible task from their fans
its not the "meta". why do you think demon1 never stood out in a tier 2/3 team (only recently in 2023) was it the meta?
no
the team itself and the players around them affect their performance drastically
CoCloudy [#12]blud forgot ethan
its because he's top tier support and frags. he plays basic valorant so fucking well, but its not as crazy as everyone else
DBStudios [#3]optic that was peak valorant entertainment
Prime Optic during the chamber meta was one of the most boring teams to watch even tho they were good
DBStudios [#3]optic that was peak valorant entertainment
?????
prime Gambit >>>
all the comebacks and nats plays
Denjisideals [#21]It's so fucked that you loud fans forget how good he was at that tournament for y'all. In the finals he was your best performer against Optic too. Yes he is going through a bad phase but forgetting the man's services for "prime" Loud is crazy
i never said it was because he is going bad phase. it is because sacy doesnt get along with less and the LOUD org. for putting up sharp analysis with stuff you missed this one lil bro
go search up the whole scene after 2022 champs and then talk
Convoy [#30]i never said it was because he is going bad phase. it is because sacy doesnt get along with less and the LOUD org. for putting up sharp analysis with stuff you missed this one lil bro
go search up the whole scene after 2022 champs and then talk
Doesn't change any of what I said still
CoCloudy [#22]outmoded by the meta?
you are not sober brothaBoth players are in dysfunctional teams and have the pressure of an impossible task from their fans
its not the "meta". why do you think demon1 never stood out in a tier 2/3 team (only recently in 2023) was it the meta?
no
the team itself and the players around them affect their performance drastically
Demon1 didn't play on many teams prior to joining EG. He had great stats on mix teams, a true diamond in the rough, hardly playing enough pro games to be seen by anyone yet. Both players are suffering a lot from the fact that they can't play raze well consistently.
Realistically, NRG has a wealth of experience around demon1, the same core that set up prime yay, ironically.
Yay is most definitely in a dysfunctional team, no doubt, but I think he's past his prime. If an NA team signs him next year, I would love to be proven wrong.
sentinelmain377 [#27]?????
prime Gambit >>>all the comebacks and nats plays
gambit so boring. sit in spawn stare at wall for 1 minute. 99% of teams contact into the most passive default imaginable because this is 2021 and no one know wtf they're doing.
koromast [#11]prime eg lasted 1 event bro bring back prime optic y0y slander started to be repetitive
if bringing back prime optic means dealing with the bs that was chamber meta then they're better left in the graveyard
Shuaaaa [#37]Demon1 didn't play on many teams prior to joining EG. He had great stats on mix teams, a true diamond in the rough, hardly playing enough pro games to be seen by anyone yet. Both players are suffering a lot from the fact that they can't play raze well consistently.
Realistically, NRG has a wealth of experience around demon1, the same core that set up prime yay, ironically.
Yay is most definitely in a dysfunctional team, no doubt, but I think he's past his prime. If an NA team signs him next year, I would love to be proven wrong.
wtf is this bad raze bs narrative
They have coaches and assistants for a reason
IT IS NOT THAT HARD TO LEARN A NEW AGENT
just look at the players around yay and the broken and battered calling they have
these players dont gel together at all same goes for nrg and demon1
fault of entire both teams
stop blaming it on their duelists for no reason
CoCloudy [#41]wtf is this bad raze bs narrative
They have coaches and assistants for a reason
IT IS NOT THAT HARD TO LEARN A NEW AGENT
just look at the players around yay and the broken and battered calling they have
these players dont gel together at all same goes for nrg and demon1fault of entire both teams
stop blaming it on their duelists for no reason
wtf is this bad raze bs narrative
Its not BS? they clearly lack the ability to play the agent... Whether or not you think it is entirely their fault is a separate issue. Regardless we've seen time and time again if a player is truly a world class player they will shine regardless of if their team is shit. Look at KK. Look at monyet last year. Look at fkin yay from andbox. Look at alfa before FNC. Look at demon1 before EG. Look at Leo before FNC. Look at zekken ALLLLLLLL last year.
im tired of the fkin y0y fans who want to blame everyone else but him because their precious little pro player can do no wrong.
USCK [#26]Prime Optic during the chamber meta was one of the most boring teams to watch even tho they were good
I will not stand for this historical revisionism
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#43]wtf is this bad raze bs narrative
Its not BS? they clearly lack the ability to play the agent... Whether or not you think it is entirely their fault is a separate issue. Regardless we've seen time and time again if a player is truly a world class player they will shine regardless of if their team is shit. Look at KK. Look at monyet last year. Look at fkin yay from andbox. Look at alfa before FNC. Look at demon1 before EG. Look at Leo before FNC. Look at zekken ALLLLLLLL last year.
im tired of the fkin y0y fans who want to blame everyone else but him because their precious little pro player can do no wrong.
HAVE YOU SEEN ANY BLEED OR NRG GAMES??? WHAT??
constantly yay and both demon1 are set up so awfully, demon1 espec had the most first deaths just cause he was constantly set up to take bad fights
you think as if pro play is ranked and duelists can just go do whtv they want and go kill
Yay as we know (fns has confirmed aswell) needs lots of comms and information to be set up to perform well.
and we know fs he is clearly not getting those needs filled.
Regardless of a team they will shine regardless? actual brain damage
then its not a team and WAS TEXTURE SHINING REGARDLESS BACK AT GE???
fuck no, because ge 2023 was a dysfunctional mess.
The people in the team are half the reason for an individuals performance if not more than half
watchs the games first then talk shit
Convoy [#30]i never said it was because he is going bad phase. it is because sacy doesnt get along with less and the LOUD org. for putting up sharp analysis with stuff you missed this one lil bro
go search up the whole scene after 2022 champs and then talk
"doesnt get along"
as if you truly know anything about their relationship and what truly went down in 2022
you saw 2 random clips on the internet about some instances when they were on a team and suddenly
"sacy has beef with loud !! sacy and less hate each other!!"
CoCloudy [#47]HAVE YOU SEEN ANY BLEED OR NRG GAMES??? WHAT??
constantly yay and both demon1 are set up so awfully, demon1 espec had the most first deaths just cause he was constantly set up to take bad fights
you think as if pro play is ranked and duelists can just go do whtv they want and go kill
Yay as we know (fns has confirmed aswell) needs lots of comms and information to be set up to perform well.
and we know fs he is clearly not getting those needs filled.Regardless of a team they will shine regardless? actual brain damage
then its not a team and WAS TEXTURE SHINING REGARDLESS BACK AT GE???
fuck no, because ge 2023 was a dysfunctional mess.
The people in the team are half the reason for an individuals performance if not more than half
watchs the games first then talk shit
HAVE YOU SEEN ANY BLEED OR NRG GAMES??? WHAT??
HAVE YOU SEEN GE OR ANDBOX OR EDG OR SEN (2023) OR GUILD OR SUR OR SQN GAMES?????? WHAT???
good job ignoring my point :)
WAS TEXTURE SHINING REGARDLESS BACK AT GE
yes? when they put him on duelist absofuckinlutely. did you watch GE last year? im guessing not. Its almost like he was playing agents he didnt know how to play at the beginning of the year. sound familiar?
watchs the games first then talk shit
ironic
notice how you have to deflect from every player i mentioned because it completely disproves your entire argument.
you think as if pro play is ranked and duelists can just go do whtv they want and go kill
thats a strawman? I never said that but ok 🤪
then its not a team
you're gonna call me braindamaged and then say shit like this? how does a player performing well on a shit team make it "not a team"? you sound like you were dropped on your head as a child.
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#51]HAVE YOU SEEN ANY BLEED OR NRG GAMES??? WHAT??
HAVE YOU SEEN GE OR ANDBOX OR EDG OR SEN (2023) OR GUILD OR SUR OR SQN GAMES?????? WHAT???
good job ignoring my point :)
WAS TEXTURE SHINING REGARDLESS BACK AT GE
yes? when they put him on duelist absofuckinlutely. did you watch GE last year? im guessing not. Its almost like he was playing agents he didnt know how to play at the beginning of the year. sound familiar?
watchs the games first then talk shit
ironic
notice how you have to deflect from every player i mentioned because it completely disproves your entire argument.
you think as if pro play is ranked and duelists can just go do whtv they want and go kill
thats a strawman? I never said that but ok 🤪
then its not a team
you're gonna call me braindamaged and then say shit like this? how does a player performing well on a shit team make it "not a team"? you sound like you were dropped on your head as a child.
HAVE YOU SEEN GE OR ANDBOX OR EDG OR SEN (2023) OR GUILD OR SUR OR SQN GAMES?????? WHAT???
Like I said
half their performance comes from half the team
even if they werent the best they still did good in setting their up duelists properly
CoCloudy [#52]HAVE YOU SEEN GE OR ANDBOX OR EDG OR SEN (2023) OR GUILD OR SUR OR SQN GAMES?????? WHAT???
Like I said
half their performance comes from half the team
even if they werent the best they still did good in setting their up duelists properly
ah yes GE set up their duelist properly. monyet their duelist. oh wait 😅.
Sentinels totally set up zekken correctly last year youre so right thats why tenz (their other duelist) also did well last year because they were just so good a setting up duelists. oh wait 😅.
guild set up their duelist leo so well. leo their duelist. oh wait 😅.
SQN was setting up their duelist Demon1 so well. their duelist. oh wait 😅.
brother you have no clue what you're even talking about you just desperately want to be right and are talking out of your ass.
Convoy [#30]i never said it was because he is going bad phase. it is because sacy doesnt get along with less and the LOUD org. for putting up sharp analysis with stuff you missed this one lil bro
go search up the whole scene after 2022 champs and then talk
yeah but why does that matter if we're bringing back prime EG and prime Gambit, teams who have players who historically do not like those orgs
CoCloudy [#50]bro making up players 💀💀
?? when were you born?? mario balotelli and el shaar are the ITALIAN GOATS. higher ceiling than neymar
Jinxypoo [#9]how about we bring back the old vct circuit and scrap franchsing?
gave me nostalgia just reading it.
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#53]ah yes GE set up their duelist properly. monyet their duelist. oh wait 😅.
Sentinels totally set up zekken correctly last year youre so right thats why tenz (their other duelist) also did well last year because they were just so good a setting up duelists. oh wait 😅.
guild set up their duelist leo so well. leo their duelist. oh wait 😅.
SQN was setting up their duelist Demon1 so well. their duelist. oh wait 😅.
brother you have no clue what you're even talking about you just desperately want to be right and are talking out of your ass.
your point is that players who have played really well in a certain team
should also shine the same in a new team with so many changes
do you realise how stupid that sounds
CoCloudy [#61]your point is that players who have played really well in a certain team
should also shine the same in a new team with so many changesdo you realise how stupid that sounds
That's not remotely my point but if you need to lie to yourself to make yourself feel less embarrassed go right ahead.
CoCloudy [#47]HAVE YOU SEEN ANY BLEED OR NRG GAMES??? WHAT??
constantly yay and both demon1 are set up so awfully, demon1 espec had the most first deaths just cause he was constantly set up to take bad fights
you think as if pro play is ranked and duelists can just go do whtv they want and go kill
Yay as we know (fns has confirmed aswell) needs lots of comms and information to be set up to perform well.
and we know fs he is clearly not getting those needs filled.Regardless of a team they will shine regardless? actual brain damage
then its not a team and WAS TEXTURE SHINING REGARDLESS BACK AT GE???
fuck no, because ge 2023 was a dysfunctional mess.
The people in the team are half the reason for an individuals performance if not more than half
watchs the games first then talk shit
Bros bringing 2023 t3xture when he was delegated to sentinel.
Chill.
CoCloudy [#48]"doesnt get along"
as if you truly know anything about their relationship and what truly went down in 2022
you saw 2 random clips on the internet about some instances when they were on a team and suddenly
"sacy has beef with loud !! sacy and less hate each other!!"
explain LESS specifically shooting Sacy body all of Americas Split and nobody else's on SEN and like you know anything dumbass
ALoKi007 [#57]I feel sympathy for you. Ending a convo like that is crazy
i feel sympathetic that you have to live in india
Convoy [#64]explain LESS specifically shooting Sacy body all of Americas Split and nobody else's on SEN and like you know anything dumbass
not acting like I know them and their relationship
but neither do you
over analyzing a dude shooting someones body in a match is crazy
it could literally mean anything
you are just bringing it up for your confirmation bias lmfaooo