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Pacific possible roster changes

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#1
Darkhunter

Now teams made playoffs let's see which teams will make roster changes for split 2
T1: highly likely based on performance in playoffs , loss to dfm hit them hard tbh
Rrq:- I have a feeling some one gonna get cut off for split 2 prob Estrella or flip
Bleed:- yay is not gonna be in bleed in split2 , there is no way bleed will keep the same roster
GE: highly unlikely but with those performances they shud try to.make changes... winning 2 games per year vs team with a sub and worst team in vct is not a excuse to keep them playing....
Ts: they need a change but they don't make it
Zeta: they look underwhelming....idk prob meiy could fix this team..

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unknown_trash
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Zeta needs xdll

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danii1
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Lowkey they do

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BoringGuy
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Suddenly T1 needs xeta and k1ng lol

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Goureyaas
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xeta retired, no?

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_amBrian
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hiroronn bottom rating hurts my soul but is expected considering they put a sentinel on initiator

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danii1
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100% I agree with this.
Now just bring Xdll for the initiator role and we're gonna farm next year guaranteed
And maybe a good viper player, like GON

#5
sm1th0o
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yay to NRG

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Al-Mawsil
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stop making it easier for loud to beat them

#36
doc_octavius
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forget loud, even oxygen will beat them then lmao

#58
milflover92
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To be fair, OXG would beat a lot of teams rn, which is great cause that means that there's gonna be hella talent coming in next year. Next year is gonna be potentially the best year valorant will have esports wise imo

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Al-Mawsil
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who can oxygen beat?

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Wr4th
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T1 = -carpe ( inconsistent )
RRQ = -one or both of flip or Estrella
bleed = mostly - yay + juicy
GE = -polvi ( throws alot ) will make the most impact but highly unlikely
TS = - NDG
Zeta = youngsters showed few glimpses. so, I don't wanna be harsh on them

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Bluemon
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October juicy will turn 18 and I think he will not available for split2

#26
HenBabyH
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the fuck did you just say? get rid of carpe?

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TM06Nick
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Juicy is 2025

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Costofequity
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T1: highly likely based on performance in playoffs , loss to dfm hit them hard tbh

doesnt help when xccurate says he doesnt like his team atmosphere on stream LOL

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Al-Mawsil
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wait what? Does he mean like people arent hype they dont gel or they straight up just dont like each other?

#31
Costofequity
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imo its a clash of na vs apac culture in that team

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Al-Mawsil
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so he thinks rossy dont fit the team?

#35
pitchfork
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yeah i heard abt rossy and carpe dont like each other

#45
paci0
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Fuck that just kick both

Ideally I think t1 should keep izu and Saya but replace the rest

#59
dogexyz
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not saya lol

#60
milflover92
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Rossy made a massive impact for this team tho so idk about kicking both.

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RAFIF
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Bruh look at saya few match bro, he play like shit idk why, satchel to enemy for no reason and his trolling so much . And I believe xccurate will stay cause the way his IGLing and autumn liked how xcc lead this team and calling so clear he said(from interview after T1 vs rrq match)

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PP12123213123
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TS
-Jessi
-Borkum
-NDG ( give him more chance)
+crack youngster

RRQ
-flip
-estrella
+monyet
+crack youngster

Zeta
+meiy

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aburnie
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Honestly, Jessi's IGLing seems solid and he seems to be shooting decently for the most part (we don't talk about that game)
NDG has been improving but he still looks unconfident a lot of the time and whiffs easy shots but his lurks on sunset were very good.

-BORKUM

Is something I'd start with and then perhaps a new youngster you can slowly phase in.

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Atpdel
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RRQ -flip +tenten

#14
_amBrian
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bro tryna start a race war

#73
SleepyBear
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aint that deep tbh

#22
laifu
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-estrella +tenten
the chemistry is immaculate

#72
badutsirkus
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chemistry between racists is perfect

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SleepyBear
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idk how its rasict tbh ? what part ?

flipz : people mad bcuz he saying ur profile is gojo satoru (anime) or some shit
ten2 : saying something about poop

what part is racist ? i genuinely asking

before indian blow up calling everything racist for no reason...even though there are no Indians involved here, flip is Indonesians and ten2 Koreans....which is funny to me😂🤷‍♂️

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dsg and bleed could trade a player (probably juicy) for split 2. imo, yay and deryeon out, bring back crazyguy igl and juicy duelist. Deryeon caught in bad role issue (sentinel/secondary duelist but retla is sentinel and not double duelist meta) and yay has been underperforming.

Alternative: Retla and deryeon out, yay on sentinel and crazyguy back in for igl + initiator, juicy duelist. Personally, I dislike this because Retla has been performing really well, but tbh this is really the only option to keep yay on the team.

Edit: Another option is Riza instead of crazyguy. It is probably the better option too ngl

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Denjisideals
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Sometimes I forget that Crazyguy is still on the team while he and Yay are having a full on boxing match up.

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Upstander123
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Honestly same lmao, I had to check the team page to realize he was still on the team xD

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Lucrix
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but you forget about internal issues. sscary and crazyguy are on bad terms i thought. i think bleed HAVE to keep yay because aren't they paying him like a million dollars??

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Upstander123
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hmmm, true, obv I don't know how deep the internal issues go, but it might be easier to work around them than finding a different fa igl initiator.

Yay might be kept, but he'd most likely get switched to sentinel permanently (since he's shown he can't perform on duelist or initiator/flex) meaning Retla would be kicked (and that sucks)

Edit: I forgot about Riza. That might actually be the way they'll go

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aburnie
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Honestly, I think that sScary and Crazyguy can squash the beef. Both are professionals, Crazyguy has been around a long time while sScary is very professional and results based and also they qualified to Tier 1 together for god sake. Perhaps under leadership from a new coach, things will look better. sScary has trialed the IGL role and failed, so if his pre-existing mindset was "I can do better" it has definitely been shattered now and perhaps he'd be more open to criticism and sharing ideas.

Again, we're outsiders, we don't know how deep the issues lie. Personally, I think while Crazyguy isn't an outstanding IGL, he is definitely a vibe booster and motivational and I like him personally. If the issues lies moreso with Yay, then I'm glad and from the few clips of his watch party it does seem that way a little more.

Again, if any Viet fans don't know, sScary has never explicitly shit talked or bad mouthed any of his teammates including Crazyguy and Egoist, he states matter-of-factly that there were internal issues of the team where an attempt was made to be fixed but it didn't work out.

Riza is decent but doesnt his roles conflict with Zest who is a new signing? I don't think they'd drop Zest unless he decides to leave on his own accord. I already posted on reddit but a roster I have in mind. Also, how is YesICan's English? I was decently impressed when I saw FANCY play in Ascension and YesICan was the IGL I think and he seemed to be putting up numbers too. Perhaps he's inexperienced but could be worth a try? I don't know if they'd manage to get any Thai IGLs who speak good English (Perhaps PTC could work, but he is doing well on FULLSENSE).

sScary: Controller
Zest: Recon/Viper
garnetS: Duelist
Egoist: Sentinel
Flex IGL (Could be imported).
Deryeon (6th man, double duelist if required)

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aburnie
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Just saw a thread about Benkai (If he is indeed booted from GE). He was an IGL of PRX and although it's been a long time now, perhaps his experience in calling could aid the team. Another idea I had was Xeta, but he's retired now and I'm not sure if he has enlisted yet nor if he has the passion to play atm but I feel like he would slot in quite nicely and also serve as an interim translator for Zest + already lives in Korea.

Benkai (SG): Sentinel/IGL
sScary (TH): Controller
Zest (KR): Recon/Viper
garnetS (TH): Duelist
JayH(SG), retlA (SG), Xeta (IGL, KR)

Just some ideas.

#61
milflover92
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This xeta team is sScary, cook bro.

#64
Upstander123
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While Zest and Riza do have a slight role issue, they both played some flash initiator before, so they can learn much easier imo.

I'm kinda a fake Viet fan (I don't know how good YesIcan's English is :(((((( ) Although, I definitely think that is a good option. (NOOO MY VIET SUPER TEAM)

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Costofequity
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Rrq:- I have a feeling some one gonna get cut off for split 2 prob Estrella or flip

bro estrella igl elevated this team why would he get cut

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Jakegen
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RRQ -flip +monyet and make roles work, increase in skill gotta be worth it someone help jemkin and lmemore, xferro is solid and estrella is doing ok

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Al-Mawsil
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who is igling?

#41
jamet_ff
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Currently Estrella

#49
aburnie
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Wait, the win today was with Estrella?, I thought xferro was IGL.

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jamet_ff
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Xff was the IGL for Lock//In, after that fl0pzjder took that role ever since.

Then, a little update from Estrella that he's been IGL-ing the team from a week ago.

https://twitter.com/Estrellavlrt/status/1784974400829465030?t=dbXS5RUAELzb7JbHuyW_rg&s=19

Xff role is a team captain, I don't know what that role specify for, probably for PR purposes because he's the most handsome one among his teammates.

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aburnie
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I personally think Jemkin edges him out in that department.

#68
Al-Mawsil
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get the fuck rid of fl0p then why tf is he on the tea,

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Apsodia
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He performed well last match against geng when he wasn't igl ing tho

Igling takes a toll on ur firepower

#71
Al-Mawsil
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monyet or flip

#20
laifu
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Zeta has to pick up Syouta, dude is basically hard carrying in T2 and did what mfs like Meiy and iZu did last year but with a way better rating
I absolutely think they should move on from SugarZ3ro and hiroronn

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mon471
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Someone has to sign RB back to Pacific.

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StutterSt3p
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Tbh I feel like GE with a cracked duelist would lowkey not be that bad. Idk, which duelist though, but Polvi only started playing well at the end.

#28
laifu
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They need a overhaul of their whole roster keep LF and blazek1ng bc Benkai is washed and polvi/Russ nepo'd their way into GE bc of the coaches

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StutterSt3p
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Nah, Russ has been playing well if you've actually watched GE at all. Benkai is debatable, but he's not bad either, and brings some veteran leadership.

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aburnie
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Keep RUSS and LF and perhaps Benkai. Their macro game looks decent and RUSS has been shooting decently I can't lie.

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PandaCoco1
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ts- -ndg
+JA(he and jremy can switch roles on jett maps and raze maps)

#62
mon471
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-NDG +Nexi

I feel like Borkum has to go but there aren’t a lot of decent controllers in PH scene

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PandaCoco1
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idk about nexi, his performance has been lacking recently I'd rather go for JA instead and I think papichulo is better than borkum

#76
killerxdxd
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Nexi is more consistent than JA
+Nexi

#34
yukky
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Yay getting cut is gonna be so bad for his mental gotta feel for him

Hopefully he bounces back sooner or later

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Darkhunter
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I feel sad for him....he just should not have forced raze....
Prob gonna take awhile until he will be back if he is cutoff now

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LeCat
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Best possible outcome(more competitive teams in pacific)

T1 :
-Rossy
-XCC
+K1ng
+RB

Unless T1 somehow qualify to Shanghai, it is likely their roster will be change. They might go full Korean due to availability of world class korean player in the market, dropping Xcc and Rossy even though both are great players. Rossy will then go to EG if they dont qualify. Their replacement if should be K1ng and RB(its T1, they can buy his buyout) , alternatively they exchange Xcc for Estrella.

RRQ
-Flip
-Estrella
+Monyet
+Xcc

There are rumours that Monyet might join Boom, but he would love to stay in franchising. If T1 goes full korean Xcc is in the market which means you no longer needs Flip which is only there because there is no good Indonesian IGL

Bleed
-Yay
-Deryeon
+S0m
+Benkai?

Sscary is not an IGL, that much is clear. With the removal of yay, Bleed have an import slot and money to throw. They need an actual world class duelist/flex and s0m is right there(he used to play duelist pre franchising). Benkai is there to IGL, mostly because there's not alot of igl in the market rn and he's still better than flip

Talon
-Lenne
+Garnets

They are fine but lenne is meh and Garnet should be in franchising

Ts
-Borkum
+some smoke dude for ph t2

They are fine though

Zeta
-Hiroron
+Meiy

Zeta now play double duelist PRX style with Dep and Meiy flying over every site.

GE
-Polvi
-Benkai
+skrossi
+deathmaker

Unfortunately they dont have bleed's money, RRQ strong domestic scene or T1 which have both. So this team is not going to be competitive anyway so might as well play some indians and farm clout.

Dfm probably is a lost cause too, so just train some Japanese youngsters

Prx drx geng are fine

Now 9 of the 11 teams in pacific are competitive with some massive roster changes, things should get better from now on.

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StoneRosesBestUKBand
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I like this a lot, no way s0m joins APAC tho

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Atpdel
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+skrossi

🗿

#48
LeCat
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Botssi have clout. Ge is not going to have international anw mighy as well make the Indians happy when they beat dfm again with skrossi breaking the kill record(the management force everyone else to bait with a knife for rossi since that's basically what happened last year)

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aburnie
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BLEED GarnetS is the biggest possible shout. His English is decent as well and I've been pushing for this roster move all season. Governor is similar to garnetS and meshes well with ban. I believe garnetS already trialed for TALON but he didn't like Frost's attitude (I guess it was vice versa too).

#39
StoneRosesBestUKBand
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GE
-polvi
-Benkai or blazek1ng
+Techno as controller
+hellff as initiator/flex
LightningFast moves to duelist/flex

#43
Zsaber
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GE
-polvi
+rb
-benkai
+bazzi

#44
StoneRosesBestUKBand
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They are too poor to buy Rb, he will go to a KR org.

#54
Anti-fakenews
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GE dont need changes. Right now, their strongest point is their team chem. At maximum, maybe adding people to support staff could work. Like analyst or secondary coach

#55
Anti-fakenews
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Probably the biggest gamble that could be taken is Skrossi for B1azeking. Nothing more than that.

#63
Vegaaa
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meiy over dep is a good upgrade, but replacing their carry duelist for another carry duelist doesnt make much sense. replace one of the other 3.

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sleeek
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if they bring in meiy then dep (and maybe the others) will just switch role

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