effys said it perfectly

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alecksdesk

https://twitter.com/effysgo/status/1784315759146963047

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im sure other teams had worse scrims than this lol...

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100%

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Yistyy

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its actually baffling that people think this is toxic lmaooo
do not show these guys old cod scrims or c9/tsm apex comms they will lose their shit

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BrotherMan

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genghsta's whole tweet was abt this vod and alleged bribing with no backup proof... is it a coincidence that all T1 pros are siding with yay?? I dont think so... steel talking about ethics when he was actually exposed of bribe is hilarious af

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Steel talking about ethics when his career is denoted by
A. Match fixing
B. Shit talking players going through losses in the family
C. Flaming people while they are down from the sidelines

What a morally good individual

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Alright then sure, do this exercise then. What if yay posted the exact same clip of genghsta saying that and the exact same screenshot to defend why his time of DSG was so bad. What would people have said

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genghsta, steel and slow (his name fits perfectly btw) - been subtweeting yay for a year now, constantly saying how bad and horrible of a person he is while he stays quiet and stays out of drama and ACTUALLY tries to grind the game. he wanna get back to the top and I respect that.

if he was a little scrim-leaking subtweeting bitch, i'd not support him.

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Mortadelo

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Not my point, I'm saying if it was yay who tweeted it absolutely no one would be doubting how toxic that is

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alecksdesk

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like i said - its not toxic. and neither was the other clip.

get me some random tier3 player that says the same shit on scrims, ill say its fine because it was.

none of the shit he said was horrible and so so wrong that it needs to be public, it just seems like normal frustration during a scrim.

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Mortadelo

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I'm afraid I'm gonna have to disagree then. But regardless, if the bribe did happen, wtf is the excuse for that

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alecksdesk

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cant defend that, thats fucked up.

we need more context tho, was it actually serious or said as a joke? with some solid proof.

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Mortadelo

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Well if he invented it it was clearly not a now thing
https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/16x2wjs/comment/k30o1w3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button&rdt=57592

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I refuse to believe yay GENUINELY tried to bribe him (cause that's really stupid), like at most he probably jokingly said "I'd pay you 10k to kick genghsta" and 0cean just wanted to farm drama

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Why would Ocean tell genghsta if it was just a joke yay made. Why would you further break the team because of a joke. Also if that was the case it would mean Ocean sided with genghsta against yay

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brother did you see how ocean was speaking? he didn't say "damn yay just said X". this guy basically went "HAHAHAHAH LOOK WHAT I HEARD OMFG"

and obviously I understand people aren't gonna talk formally in dms, but he didn't sound like he wanted to "inform" genghsta about it. he just thought it was hilarious and wanted the drama

continue thread →

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iluckilyVA

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If the bribe was real then surely Genghsta would have public backing from the coach? no? I don't believe it.

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uwukitten

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don't forget the role's coach in this btw, he was gossiping about it like a high school girl 😭

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Mortadelo

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Look at all the influential pro's defending yay, if Ocean said it's true he could get in trouble. Specially if the offer was made on a call and has no way to prove it now. He's not retired like genghsta

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He's not retired like genghsta

That's exactly why he should tell the truth and that's why he will be trusted when he does tell the truth, regardless of if he has proof or not.

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You're delusional if you believe he will be trusted without further proof. He's just gonna win himself a bunch of enemies

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yes, the hate on yay should not be based on this clip,it was tame, the hate should come from how all other pacific duelists and even half of vcl na duelists clears him post c9

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Shouldn't hate on someone just cause they aren't good tbh

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soonwookong

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when they ain't good AND immune to roster changes, I wouldn't like that

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It's not their fault if the coaches and management don't want to change them
There's also a difference between not liking someone and hating on them. You can not like them, but you shouldn't hate on them

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soonwookong

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its their fault for accepting a spot where he can't play

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what do you want a pro to do when they're given an opportunity to continue their career in esports which is shortlived regardless of how much you achieve. you guys are all weird for trying to insert yourself into a drama that involves the livelihoods of real people.

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soonwookong

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livelihoods of real people? look at the people at bleed who deserves it whose livelihood gets smacked because yay is an asshole who can't play valorant

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jawn

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it's not that bad but yay does sound passive aggressive as fuck, which is horrible in a team setting

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Usually passive aggression isn't direct - that clip was pretty direct he was yelling at his teammate in VC lol Iunno if you know what that means.

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jawn

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i mean BEFORE the breakdown, which is also warranted imo, imagine having a mf giggle like that

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Thinking about that one part of the FNS rant when he said something along the lines of, "You guys are under 15 and it shows." Starting to think it might be true.

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ironic how in that same stream fns said yay acted like a shit teammate 💀💀

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valkin

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??? saying i’m throwing and yelling at someone in the middle of a scrim is acceptable behavior? alr my fault ☠️☠️

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genghsta been irrelevant since IMT in 2021, stop baiting and get a life