Let me know what would you change
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Sen
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Nrg
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Lev
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C9
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Loud
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100T
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Kru
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G2
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Furia
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EG
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Mibr
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winae29 [#2]good but nrg is the best in the world coming soon
Could be but for now sen just looks better. They also got beat by them in their last direct match up so it's very hard to put them above sen
matarab16 [#4]Eg is better than furia c'mon
Bottom tier teams either way. I put furia above them just because mw is a goat but idrc about it
K4ziuHa [#6]Furr ia is literally worse than mibr
I cant be bothered doing the perfect power ranking on low tier teams. But nzr and mw are 10 times better than any player on mibr
StutterSt3p [#7]IMO:
- SEN
- NRG
Tier Gap
- 100T
- LOUD
- C9
- LEV
Tier Gap
- G2
- KRU
- EG
Tier Gap
- FURIA
- MIBR
100T wayy too high wtl
lilbhosduu [#8]No way you put Sen above NRG & C9
C9 over sen? Worst power ranking of all time, asked to leave
The_Cleg [#11]100T wayy too high wtl
Nah, 100T look good and better than LOUD/LEV/C9. There really isn't a solid 3rd team in Americas imo, but 100t takes it for me.
StutterSt3p [#13]Nah, 100T look good and better than LOUD/LEV/C9. There really isn't a solid 3rd team in Americas imo, but 100t takes it for me.
I'm fine if u say that 100T looks better than lev and loud, but they don't look one bit better than c9. No way.
StutterSt3p [#13]Nah, 100T look good and better than LOUD/LEV/C9. There really isn't a solid 3rd team in Americas imo, but 100t takes it for me.
based list (no bias whatsoever from me)
Manaphy [#15]
- NRG
- SEN
- LEV
- C9
- LOUD
- 100T
- KRU
- G2
- MIBR
- EG
- FURIA
Nrg > sen is copium for now but for all I know you could be right.
Good list
The_Cleg [#14]I'm fine if u say that 100T looks better than lev and loud, but they don't look one bit better than c9. No way.
C9 look decent at best, let's be honest. If OXY doesn't frag that team is doomed.
Edit: Maybe that's a little unfair to C9, but I guess we'll see when C9 and 100T play.
StyrofoamOne [#16]based list (no bias whatsoever from me)
I mean it's not even that biased, 100t genuinely have a good roster. They look good right now, although I don't know how long that'll last.
StutterSt3p [#18]C9 look decent at best, let's be honest. If OXY doesn't frag that team is doomed.
Edit: Maybe that's a little unfair to C9, but I guess we'll see when C9 and 100T play.
Absolutely not true I'd say that even individually they are better than 100T.
Oxy>Cryo
Xeppa>eeiu
Moose<bang
Runi>asuna
And for now in IGLing vanity clears boostio so much...
The_Cleg [#20]Absolutely not true I'd say that even individually they are better than 100T.
Oxy>Cryo
Xeppa>eeiu
Moose<bang
Runi>asunaAnd for now in IGLing vanity clears boostio so much...
Bro...
xeppaa is not better than eeiu, asuna when he's on is better than runi, and vanity is absolutely not better than a champs winning IGL.
StutterSt3p [#21]Bro...
xeppaa is not better than eeiu, asuna when he's on is better than runi, and vanity is absolutely not better than a champs winning IGL.
Asuna is never on, boosti might be a champs winning IGL but for now he's been kinda ass (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though, maybe he needs more time), xeppaa is more experienced and overall just better than eeiu.
Are you perchance a 100T fan?
The_Cleg [#22]Asuna is never on, boosti might be a champs winning IGL but for now he's been kinda ass (I'll give him the benefit of the doubt though, maybe he needs more time), xeppaa is more experienced and overall just better than eeiu.
Are you perchance a 100T fan?
I'm rooting for 100t because I think they can be really good, but I'm not really a 100t fan.
Asuna is a lot better than people give him credit for, it's just on some maps the coordination with the team isn't quite there, but like his split against G2 was pretty good.
Boostio's individual performance has kind of been lacking recently, but his igling is still good. Xeppaa does have more experience than eeiu, but eeiu is so much more reliable as a fragger.
StutterSt3p [#23]I'm rooting for 100t because I think they can be really good, but I'm not really a 100t fan.
Asuna is a lot better than people give him credit for, it's just on some maps the coordination with the team isn't quite there, but like his split against G2 was pretty good.
Boostio's individual performance has kind of been lacking recently, but his igling is still good. Xeppaa does have more experience than eeiu, but eeiu is so much more reliable as a fragger.
I'd say you are biased for saying this, but 100T do look solid. Fair play then
The_Cleg [#24]I'd say you are biased for saying this, but 100T do look solid. Fair play then
Well yeah, I'm a little biased ofc, but it's not like I'm basing my rankings on nothing. It's a bit of a reach maybe, but I don't really see who's better than 100t outside of SEN/NRG rn.
is this a power ranking or a recency biased ranking
these are two different things
because if we're doing a power ranking c9 are 3rd at minimum and probably 2nd, they're 3-0 and beat lev+loud, and similar goes for kru
if this is a recency bias ranking then dont call it a friggin power ranking, words are not hard lets learn how to use them sometime this year
also if this is a ranking then its still shit lmfao who invited loud to the top 5? they had two weeks off and got absolutely FUCKED, and were not looking remotely good doing it
anyway an actual power ranking goes like:
- NRG
- C9
- LEV
- SEN
- KRU
- 100T
- LOUD
- G2
- EG
- FUR
- MIBR
but if youre doing a pure ranking it looks more like:
- SEN
- NRG
- LEV
- 100T
- C9
- LOUD
- KRU
- G2
- EG
- MIBR
- FUR
finnwithtwons [#26]is this a power ranking or a recency biased ranking
these are two different things
because if we're doing a power ranking c9 are 3rd at minimum and probably 2nd, they're 3-0 and beat lev+loud, and similar goes for kru
if this is a recency bias ranking then dont call it a friggin power ranking, words are not hard lets learn how to use them sometime this year
also if this is a ranking then its still shit lmfao who invited loud to the top 5? they had two weeks off and got absolutely FUCKED, and were not looking remotely good doing it
anyway an actual power ranking goes like:
- NRG
- C9
- LEV
- SEN
- KRU
- 100T
- LOUD
- G2
- EG
- FUR
- MIBR
but if youre doing a pure ranking it looks more like:
- SEN
- NRG
- LEV
- 100T
- C9
- LOUD
- KRU
- G2
- EG
- MIBR
- FUR
How are you saying my power ranking is recency biased when u r putting c9 (who are on a streak --> puts them higher on recent events) on top 2?
Actually one of the most braindead comments I've read in a while.
I'll even refuse to address any other point u made. The bullshit you are spewing is all based on recency and you are pointing my power ranking for being recency biased. Insane comment.
The_Cleg [#27]How are you saying my power ranking is recency biased when u r putting c9 (who are on a streak --> puts them higher on recent events) on top 2?
Actually one of the most braindead comments I've read in a while.
I'll even refuse to address any other point u made. The bullshit you are spewing is all based on recency and you are pointing my power ranking for being recency biased. Insane comment.
holy shit you actually cant read thats crazy
im saying you dont know what a power ranking is??? "is this a power ranking or a recency bias ranking, two different things"
a power ranking is ranking teams' form
this is why c9 is second
again, learn what words mean sometime this year PLEASE
"youre pointing my power ranking for being recency biased" im saying u dont know what a power ranking is you braindead fuck it literally says it
hopeless
The_Cleg [#27]How are you saying my power ranking is recency biased when u r putting c9 (who are on a streak --> puts them higher on recent events) on top 2?
Actually one of the most braindead comments I've read in a while.
I'll even refuse to address any other point u made. The bullshit you are spewing is all based on recency and you are pointing my power ranking for being recency biased. Insane comment.
how do you edit your comment and still not understand what im talking about... youre lost
finnwithtwons [#26]is this a power ranking or a recency biased ranking
these are two different things
because if we're doing a power ranking c9 are 3rd at minimum and probably 2nd, they're 3-0 and beat lev+loud, and similar goes for kru
if this is a recency bias ranking then dont call it a friggin power ranking, words are not hard lets learn how to use them sometime this year
also if this is a ranking then its still shit lmfao who invited loud to the top 5? they had two weeks off and got absolutely FUCKED, and were not looking remotely good doing it
anyway an actual power ranking goes like:
- NRG
- C9
- LEV
- SEN
- KRU
- 100T
- LOUD
- G2
- EG
- FUR
- MIBR
but if youre doing a pure ranking it looks more like:
- SEN
- NRG
- LEV
- 100T
- C9
- LOUD
- KRU
- G2
- EG
- MIBR
- FUR
c9 above sen is delusional
TheAceGamer30 [#30]c9 above sen is delusional
fam its a power ranking what is there not to understand about this shit
of course c9 are above sen c9 are literally on a 3 game winning streak
obviously sen would still put c9 in the dirt like dogs, they're the best team in the world rn but c9 are in better form than a team that got 2-0d
"if youre doing a pure ranking it would be sen 1st" lets learn to read sometime this year please!
finnwithtwons [#32]fam its a power ranking what is there not to understand about this shit
of course c9 are above sen c9 are literally on a 3 game winning streak
obviously sen would still put c9 in the dirt like dogs, they're the best team in the world rn but c9 are in better form than a team that got 2-0d
"if youre doing a pure ranking it would be sen 1st" lets learn to read sometime this year please!
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finnwithtwons [#28]holy shit you actually cant read thats crazy
im saying you dont know what a power ranking is??? "is this a power ranking or a recency bias ranking, two different things"
a power ranking is ranking teams' form
this is why c9 is second
again, learn what words mean sometime this year PLEASE
"youre pointing my power ranking for being recency biased" im saying u dont know what a power ranking is you braindead fuck it literally says it
hopeless
Power ranking isn't necessarily ranking teams based on form. Power ranking = ranking teams based on their Power, which obviously is based on form as well but it's not all of it.
I.e. if the pistons went on a 10 games winning streak and the nuggets on a 5 game losing streak at the end of the season, nuggets should still be well above the pistons, regardless of the recent form.
Costofequity [#33]🤡🫵
do none of you know what a power ranking is? is this an issue all of you have on this site? we just forget what words mean now?
again, sen are obviously better than c9 and would beat them
c9 are also obviously in better form
finnwithtwons [#29]how do you edit your comment and still not understand what im talking about... youre lost
I was just adding things to address every point u made in ur braindead comment. You are lost.
finnwithtwons [#35]do none of you know what a power ranking is? is this an issue all of you have on this site? we just forget what words mean now?
again, sen are obviously better than c9 and would beat them
c9 are also obviously in better form
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finnwithtwons [#35]do none of you know what a power ranking is? is this an issue all of you have on this site? we just forget what words mean now?
again, sen are obviously better than c9 and would beat them
c9 are also obviously in better form
U r braindead buddy just accept it
finnwithtwons [#28]holy shit you actually cant read thats crazy
im saying you dont know what a power ranking is??? "is this a power ranking or a recency bias ranking, two different things"
a power ranking is ranking teams' form
this is why c9 is second
again, learn what words mean sometime this year PLEASE
"youre pointing my power ranking for being recency biased" im saying u dont know what a power ranking is you braindead fuck it literally says it
hopeless
How would a power ranking based on teams form be any different than a recency biased ranking?
It's exactly the same thing can't u even see what you are saying wtf
Form = how teams are playing recently = recency bias
finnwithtwons [#35]do none of you know what a power ranking is? is this an issue all of you have on this site? we just forget what words mean now?
again, sen are obviously better than c9 and would beat them
c9 are also obviously in better form
loud isnt even playing good lmao, winning against them is not achievement now
The_Cleg [#34]Power ranking isn't necessarily ranking teams based on form. Power ranking = ranking teams based on their Power, which obviously is based on form as well but it's not all of it.
I.e. if the pistons went on a 10 games winning streak and the nuggets on a 5 game losing streak at the end of the season, nuggets should still be well above the pistons, regardless of the recent form.
yeah but its extremely reliant on form, power rankings look significantly different to basic team standings
i dont watch basketball so i cant really access this analogy properly but lets say the league last season was 18 games instead of 9 and loud after going 8-1 won their next 4 and lost their final 5, but still finished 1st, by the end of the season they would be ranked below teams that finished slightly below them in the standings(lets say c9 lost one more game than them and finished 2nd, they would probably be above loud in this example)
its not to the extreme end where kru would ever be above loud but c9 is closer to sen than kru was to loud lol
they are literally on a 3 game winning streak against very strong teams
The_Cleg [#39]How would a power ranking based on teams form be any different than a recency biased ranking?
It's exactly the same thing can't u even see what you are saying wtf
Form = how teams are playing recently = recency bias
its exactly the same thing but the rankings are clearly different
you cant see what im saying either evidently
TheAceGamer30 [#40]loud isnt even playing good lmao, winning against them is not achievement now
He's literally saying the very things he advocates against. I find no sense in the words he's writing.
The_Cleg [#38]U r braindead buddy just accept it
mb ill email your english teacher and see if they can save your hopeless ass
The_Cleg [#43]He's literally saying the very things he advocates against. I find no sense in the words he's writing.
please name one example of this
finnwithtwons [#42]its exactly the same thing but the rankings are clearly different
you cant see what im saying either evidently
Bro read what you are even writing...
I mean this in the least offensive way possible, but... you are lost...
TheAceGamer30 [#40]loud isnt even playing good lmao, winning against them is not achievement now
what does the quality of loud's play have to do with my comment man
The_Cleg [#46]Bro read what you are even writing...
I mean this in the least offensive way possible, but... you are lost...
"read what you are writing" but you claimed i was attacking your "power ranking" for recency bias in my comment
you obviously cant read what im writing if you're saying this nonsense man
finnwithtwons [#41]yeah but its extremely reliant on form, power rankings look significantly different to basic team standings
i dont watch basketball so i cant really access this analogy properly but lets say the league last season was 18 games instead of 9 and loud after going 8-1 won their next 4 and lost their final 5, but still finished 1st, by the end of the season they would be ranked below teams that finished slightly below them in the standings(lets say c9 lost one more game than them and finished 2nd, they would probably be above loud in this example)
its not to the extreme end where kru would ever be above loud but c9 is closer to sen than kru was to loud lol
they are literally on a 3 game winning streak against very strong teams
I mean yeah I agree with what you are saying but I still don't get why you are basically gatekeeping the use of "power rankings".
Power rankings = ranking teams based on their power. That's what I did. You give many meanings to "power" (e.g. their peak, their current form, your expectations), but that's just many power rankings lol.
All the people that commented seemed to understand what I meant. You seem to be the only one to have a problem with it.
The_Cleg [#20]Absolutely not true I'd say that even individually they are better than 100T.
Oxy>Cryo
Xeppa>eeiu
Moose<bang
Runi>asunaAnd for now in IGLing vanity clears boostio so much...
VANITY CLEARS BOOSTIO LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
finnwithtwons [#48]"read what you are writing" but you claimed i was attacking your "power ranking" for recency bias in my comment
you obviously cant read what im writing if you're saying this nonsense man
if this is a recency bias ranking then dont call it a friggin power ranking
You literally said this. You said my power ranking was a recency biased power ranking. Tf ?
Psion [#50]VANITY CLEARS BOOSTIO LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ATM he does... I'm the furthest thing away from being a vanity enjoyer... but you gotta agree that his igling against loud was class, while boostio in 2024 has had lots of stinkers (not igling wise necessarily, but still stinkers)
The_Cleg [#49]I mean yeah I agree with what you are saying but I still don't get why you are basically gatekeeping the use of "power rankings".
Power rankings = ranking teams based on their power. That's what I did. You give many meanings to "power" (e.g. their peak, their current form, your expectations), but that's just many power rankings lol.
All the people that commented seemed to understand what I meant. You seem to be the only one to have a problem with it.
your ranking reads more like an actual ranking of team quality adjusted with partiality to recent results
thats not what a power ranking is in my mind and i think the application of the term "power ranking" is just wrong
in a power ranking c9 specifically would be much higher after going 3-0 and beating two theoretically strong teams
but like you have 1 sen 2 nrg which i agree with if youre talking about how good the team is but thats not really what power ranking means
because like for instance, sen lost to lev and nrg havent lost a game yet. if you make a power ranking immediately after that game, sen should not be 1st because they're 1-1 and lost to a team that just took a bad loss(both on paper and in performance lol lev played like ASS against c9 ngl)
ill preface this with i know next to nothing about basketball but im just gonna assume the nuggets are really good(and for this example, im arbitrarily assuming theyre the best in the league) because you used them in your example lol:
if the nuggets lost 5 in a row while being the best in the league, a quality ranking would still put them 1st, and the standings might have them 1st, but a power ranking would not - they would drop several places in a power ranking(or should) off that
that is my issue with your ranking is your ranking is 100x closer to a quality ranking than a power ranking
hope that makes things clear
StutterSt3p [#19]I mean it's not even that biased, 100t genuinely have a good roster. They look good right now, although I don't know how long that'll last.
if asuna has a good map then 100t could beat some of those top tier teams
The_Cleg [#51]if this is a recency bias ranking then dont call it a friggin power ranking
You literally said this. You said my power ranking was a recency biased power ranking. Tf ?
i said "dont call it a power ranking" but im also saying its a power ranking? pick one they cant both exist
also i said if for a reason
finnwithtwons [#53]your ranking reads more like an actual ranking of team quality adjusted with partiality to recent results
thats not what a power ranking is in my mind and i think the application of the term "power ranking" is just wrong
in a power ranking c9 specifically would be much higher after going 3-0 and beating two theoretically strong teams
but like you have 1 sen 2 nrg which i agree with if youre talking about how good the team is but thats not really what power ranking means
because like for instance, sen lost to lev and nrg havent lost a game yet. if you make a power ranking immediately after that game, sen should not be 1st because they're 1-1 and lost to a team that just took a bad loss(both on paper and in performance lol lev played like ASS against c9 ngl)
ill preface this with i know next to nothing about basketball but im just gonna assume the nuggets are really good(and for this example, im arbitrarily assuming theyre the best in the league) because you used them in your example lol:
if the nuggets lost 5 in a row while being the best in the league, a quality ranking would still put them 1st, and the standings might have them 1st, but a power ranking would not - they would drop several places in a power ranking(or should) off thatthat is my issue with your ranking is your ranking is 100x closer to a quality ranking than a power ranking
hope that makes things clear
We just have different definitions of power ranking and I don't think any of us two is necessarily right.. or wrong.
Power rankings simply means ranking based on power. The definition is not unique.
I don't think we need to be so attached to words either. On this site if I see a power ranking I usually see it using my definition, and either way most people (besides you, ig) seem to understand it pretty well
The_Cleg [#49]I mean yeah I agree with what you are saying but I still don't get why you are basically gatekeeping the use of "power rankings".
Power rankings = ranking teams based on their power. That's what I did. You give many meanings to "power" (e.g. their peak, their current form, your expectations), but that's just many power rankings lol.
All the people that commented seemed to understand what I meant. You seem to be the only one to have a problem with it.
for what its worth i think everyone else reacting to your post is also doing a ranking based on team quality and not a power ranking in their head
like, kru are 2-0, for a power ranking they should realistically be higher than the 7/8 range
but if its just ranking the teams based on how good they are, yeah they're in that spot most likely
StyrofoamOne [#54]if asuna has a good map then 100t could beat some of those top tier teams
I agree, but it's less about him fragging and more so that sometimes they aren't setting him up well. That or there's some disconnect about the pace with asuna and the rest of the team. Either way, 100t will have a good chance at contending against NRG/SEN by the end of the split, I think.
The_Cleg [#56]We just have different definitions of power ranking and I don't think any of us two is necessarily right.. or wrong.
Power rankings simply means ranking based on power. The definition is not unique.
I don't think we need to be so attached to words either. On this site if I see a power ranking I usually see it using my definition, and either way most people (besides you, ig) seem to understand it pretty well
i have just always understood "power ranking" and "team ranking" to be two different things and based on the "power rankings" i see from like mls posts and people reacting to it(and people reacting to different sports pages when they post power rankings) people usually see it similar to how i do and theres the one guy in the instagram comments section that goes "what?? this sucks! X team should be above Y team because of [reason that assumes the post is a team ranking rather than a power ranking]" and then some other guy ratios the comment with "its a power ranking dumbfuck"
the idea about attachment to words is interesting and my response to that as a guy with a useless 80k english degree is that we use language as our vehicle to communicate, and that communication, that language, is built off a collective understanding of assigned meanings to words so we can all understand the same thing when dan tells the waiter he wants the steak medium rare with a side of fries or when janice and dan make plans at the dinner table to go kayaking the following day, because if we dont have that collective understanding dan gets a soup and salad and shows up to the lake to meet janice carrying a bow and arrow
point is that attachment the only thing holding together how we communicate precise information to other people, so when we use those words differently that communication falls apart
this is why we cant communicate effectively to people that dont speak the same language as us, and while that seems really obvious, the actual mechanics of it are that people that speak english have a collective understanding of how to order a medium rare steak with a side of fries, and that understanding is different to the still collective understanding that is held by people who speak spanish, and they both do not share the collective understanding that people who speak tagalog do for how to order the steak
so i think that we kind of do need to be attached to words in that sense, even though those understandings change and evolve between languages over time and in different societies, we still need some attachment to it because otherwise we are effectively all literally speaking different languages
ive written like 10 different papers on this topic this is the only thing i know.
finnwithtwons [#59]i have just always understood "power ranking" and "team ranking" to be two different things and based on the "power rankings" i see from like mls posts and people reacting to it(and people reacting to different sports pages when they post power rankings) people usually see it similar to how i do and theres the one guy in the instagram comments section that goes "what?? this sucks! X team should be above Y team because of [reason that assumes the post is a team ranking rather than a power ranking]" and then some other guy ratios the comment with "its a power ranking dumbfuck"
the idea about attachment to words is interesting and my response to that as a guy with a useless 80k english degree is that we use language as our vehicle to communicate, and that communication, that language, is built off a collective understanding of assigned meanings to words so we can all understand the same thing when dan tells the waiter he wants the steak medium rare with a side of fries or when janice and dan make plans at the dinner table to go kayaking the following day, because if we dont have that collective understanding dan gets a soup and salad and shows up to the lake to meet janice carrying a bow and arrow
point is that attachment the only thing holding together how we communicate precise information to other people, so when we use those words differently that communication falls apart
this is why we cant communicate effectively to people that dont speak the same language as us, and while that seems really obvious, the actual mechanics of it are that people that speak english have a collective understanding of how to order a medium rare steak with a side of fries, and that understanding is different to the still collective understanding that is held by people who speak spanish, and they both do not share the collective understanding that people who speak tagalog do for how to order the steak
so i think that we kind of do need to be attached to words in that sense, even though those understandings change and evolve between languages over time and in different societies, we still need some attachment to it because otherwise we are effectively all literally speaking different languagesive written like 10 different papers on this topic this is the only thing i know.
holy essay bruh nobodys reading all this shit
imo the list is
sen - biggest sample size, won madrid and still look really good, they've lost games so the loss to lev isnt too bad, they bounce back
nrg - this team is americas version of fnatic, a super team on paper and can probably become the best in americas but they did lose to sen and ethan being new to igling, i think theyll reach full potential at champs
c9 - idk if they are this good but they have had a good run so far, if they carry this on they can definetly make a international lan but well see, they are a new team and no one there are really gone to international stage besides xeppaa and vanity but its been a minute
loud - i mean its loud, probably the greatest team oat in americas, they can definetly bounce back from some rough losses, i think qck is there deciding factor, if he plays good they win if he plays ehh they win but he has also played kinda bad often getting duelist diffed
lev - they have aspas and he just carries them, idk bout the rest of the team, if they can improve their team play and not rely on aspas to drop 30 every game they can definetly be top 3
100t - idk they are always a huge let down, but they look to be improving, still think another year of accomplishing nothing
kru - they look decent but they havent versed any good teams so well see
g2 - new franchised team they dont look bad, but idk why the fuck they have icy on duelist when have leaf on the team
mibr - dont look too good rn but in kick off they didnt look bad
eg - look bad rn but again kickoff they didnt look bad, they have potter who has proven to be a great development coach and they still have jawgemo
furia - yeah idek, they're games end to quick to watch
its too early tbh to really know the list, most of these teams havent even play 10 matches this year, some have only played
The_Cleg [#52]ATM he does... I'm the furthest thing away from being a vanity enjoyer... but you gotta agree that his igling against loud was class, while boostio in 2024 has had lots of stinkers (not igling wise necessarily, but still stinkers)
im pretty sure runi takes a good amount of the role of igling now, compare the igling at kickoff to this and it has singificant differences
The_Cleg [#12]C9 over sen? Worst power ranking of all time, asked to leave
C9 gonna dogwalk Sen if they get a match. Save this thread and comeback if they get the match this season.
The_Cleg [#9]I cant be bothered doing the perfect power ranking on low tier teams. But nzr and mw are 10 times better than any player on mibr
mans tryna rank players when hes doing a team ranking okay buddy
Holistical_Nil [#66]mans tryna rank players when hes doing a team ranking okay buddy
Why are we acting like player quality does not matter though
StutterSt3p [#13]Nah, 100T look good and better than LOUD/LEV/C9. There really isn't a solid 3rd team in Americas imo, but 100t takes it for me.
Surely LEV sits higher than 100T now right?
lilbhosduu [#63]C9 gonna dogwalk Sen if they get a match. Save this thread and comeback if they get the match this season.
Is blud on drugs?
SquareMars [#65]SEN > Lev is disrespectful man
they kicked sen's ass fair and square put them above
Sen just won a international event? Chill out wtf sen is still the best team itw
SquareMars [#65]SEN > Lev is disrespectful man
they kicked sen's ass fair and square put them above
You are correct. 1 regular season loss disregards the pervious major tournament result
The_Cleg [#68]Surely LEV sits higher than 100T now right?
Idk how in the world you guys had them lower than fucking 100T in the first place
Mortadelo [#74]Idk how in the world you guys had them lower than fucking 100T in the first place
THATS MY POINT
The_Cleg [#68]Surely LEV sits higher than 100T now right?
I did underrate LEV I'll admit, but I'm not ready to say LEV is better than 100t fs yet. However, 100t loses to C9, and you got it 100%.
BulkyLettuce [#71]You are correct. 1 regular season loss disregards the pervious major tournament result
They just shit on NRG
Yeah no shit im putting them above sen
SquareMars [#65]SEN > Lev is disrespectful man
they kicked sen's ass fair and square put them above
17-19, 11-13 = kicked sen's ass?
they wouldve lost if aspas didnt drop 68 kills
StutterSt3p [#76]I did underrate LEV I'll admit, but I'm not ready to say LEV is better than 100t fs yet. However, 100t loses to C9, and you got it 100%.
Wtf have 100T even done for you to rank them that high in the first place. You acting as if they have been amazing for along time but have had a little slump lately
Mortadelo [#81]Wtf have 100T even done for you to rank them that high in the first place. You acting as if they have been amazing for along time but have had a little slump lately
Look, LEV has gotten a lot better, but I'm still not convinced LEV is that good. SEN played awful verse them, and tbh NRG doesn't look like they played well against them either.
100t to me, feels like they'll just keep getting better and better. Ofc, as outrageous as this sounds, I'm not going to stick to 100t that much. If they lose again, I'll be happy to drop them lower in an Americas ranking.
StutterSt3p [#82]Look, LEV has gotten a lot better, but I'm still not convinced LEV is that good. SEN played awful verse them, and tbh NRG doesn't look like they played well against them either.
100t to me, feels like they'll just keep getting better and better. Ofc, as outrageous as this sounds, I'm not going to stick to 100t that much. If they lose again, I'll be happy to drop them lower in an Americas ranking.
So you personally believe in 100T even though they haven't done anything to be placed that high? I mean it is totally fair if that is the case, I'm just saying from an objective standpoint they haven't done enough to be considered top 5
It's okay to wait to place Lev high, I understand.
Ryused [#84]1.- LEV
2.- SEN
3.- NRG
4.- KRU
5.- C9
6.- LOUD
7.- 100T
8.- G2
9.- EG
10.- FUR
11.- MIBR
Only accurate one
Mortadelo [#83]So you personally believe in 100T even though they haven't done anything to be placed that high? I mean it is totally fair if that is the case, I'm just saying from an objective standpoint they haven't done enough to be considered top 5
It's okay to wait to place Lev high, I understand.
I mean 100t is a weird team though, because they locked their roster late, played in a hard group in kickoff, and then only lost to SEN. Obviously, they haven't beaten a really good team, but my belief in 100t is about the same as people calling NRG a superteam when they only beat Furia.
In the end, the only team in Americas that's really proven themselves with their current roster, is SEN. Besides, there is no objective way to rank teams anyway, to be honest.
StutterSt3p [#86]I mean 100t is a weird team though, because they locked their roster late, played in a hard group in kickoff, and then only lost to SEN. Obviously, they haven't beaten a really good team, but my belief in 100t is about the same as people calling NRG a superteam when they only beat Furia.
In the end, the only team in Americas that's really proven themselves with their current roster, is SEN. Besides, there is no objective way to rank teams anyway, to be honest.
Fair but roster wise NRG is a superteam individually. 100T's individual talent is not even comparable with NRG's
Mortadelo [#87]Fair but roster wise NRG is a superteam individually. 100T's individual talent is not even comparable with NRG's
What does a superteam individually even mean? People throw around the term superteam so casually like as if just a random team of 5 insane players makes them a superteam. NRG is just a team of great players, and I disagree that their player quality is that much better than 100t. 100t has very good roster and a lot of firepower, and sure maybe NRG has better players, but it's not by much.
StutterSt3p [#88]What does a superteam individually even mean? People throw around the term superteam so casually like as if just a random team of 5 insane players makes them a superteam. NRG is just a team of great players, and I disagree that their player quality is that much better than 100t. 100t has very good roster and a lot of firepower, and sure maybe NRG has better players, but it's not by much.
Yes it is by much, every single NRG player is significantly better than 100T's and they have proven so many times. But as you say that doesn't guarantee them to work, it just means if it does, the celling is much higher
Mortadelo [#89]Yes it is by much, every single NRG player is significantly better than 100T's and they have proven so many times. But as you say that doesn't guarantee them to work, it just means if it does, the celling is much higher
It's really not by that much though. At the top half of tier 1, most players are fairly similar in terms of talent. That's why superteams don't work, there's just too many good players. The only reason you say those players are that much better is because they've all won an international event at some point, but 100t players are also really good.
Sure, bang, asuna, and boostio have been struggling some, but Cryo and eeiu are insane players, and the rest can all turn up. I promise if 100t and NRG play, 100t will not lose because of player quality, for this exact reason.
StutterSt3p [#90]It's really not by that much though. At the top half of tier 1, most players are fairly similar in terms of talent. That's why superteams don't work, there's just too many good players. The only reason you say those players are that much better is because they've all won an international event at some point, but 100t players are also really good.
Sure, bang, asuna, and boostio have been struggling some, but Cryo and eeiu are insane players, and the rest can all turn up. I promise if 100t and NRG play, 100t will not lose because of player quality, for this exact reason.
I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Because having Demon1 be your Jett instead of Cryo is 1000% a fucking massive advantage to make up for. And yes, if both teams were equal strat wise, NRG would win comfortably in my opinion
fixxfinn [#85]Only accurate one
Come on lev>sen is overreacting. First they have to show some consistency, then we can talk having them as the best team itw
Mortadelo [#91]I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Because having Demon1 be your Jett instead of Cryo is 1000% a fucking massive advantage to make up for. And yes, if both teams were equal strat wise, NRG would win comfortably in my opinion
Cryo's Jett is good though, maybe not as good as Demon1's, but why are we acting like Cryo isn't good? Peak Cryo is not that much worse than peak Demon1, and that's just one player on the team anyway.
StutterSt3p [#93]Cryo's Jett is good though, maybe not as good as Demon1's, but why are we acting like Cryo isn't good? Peak Cryo is not that much worse than peak Demon1, and that's just one player on the team anyway.
Not saying he isn't. Not being close to demon1 is not a mock on anyone. He's top 2 duelist in the world, a superstar, cryo isn't
Mortadelo [#94]Not saying he isn't. Not being close to demon1 is not a mock on anyone. He's top 2 duelist in the world, a superstar, cryo isn't
Tbh Demon1 is a little overrated, when NRG has lost he's going giga negative, whereas Cryo for this year, has been fragging in every game. And as you'll note, 100t has only won, once. Cryo is still very good, and not that Demon1 isn't, but he's not levels above like you think.
yoccuu [#80]17-19, 11-13 = kicked sen's ass?
they wouldve lost if aspas didnt drop 68 kills
Are we gonna forget the first half of lotus?
If lev doesn't choke the 2v4 the maps ends 13-8 or smth
Which btw is high likely they don't choke that.
SquareMars [#96]Are we gonna forget the first half of lotus?
If lev doesn't choke the 2v4 the maps ends 13-8 or smth
Which btw is high likely they don't choke that.
Lotus is an attack sided map so idk why you're using this as an argument. Even then Aspas had a once in a lifetime series dropping 47 that map which resulted in a 19-17 win, later winning map 2 13-11. The series could've swung either way and Lev didn't "kick" Sen's ass at all bro. It's wild to think that you just hopped off Nrg's meat go ride Lev's meat after they got dominated
Ryused [#84]1.- LEV
2.- SEN
3.- NRG
4.- KRU
5.- C9
6.- LOUD
7.- 100T
8.- G2
9.- EG
10.- FUR
11.- MIBR
I just realized i missed NRG 💀
The_Cleg [#92]Come on lev>sen is overreacting. First they have to show some consistency, then we can talk having them as the best team itw
I don't know about that, in that game was aspas vs sen and rn they r playing like a team
The_Cleg [#14]I'm fine if u say that 100T looks better than lev and loud, but they don't look one bit better than c9. No way.
no way 100t is better than c9, no way!!!!!!
The_Cleg [#14]I'm fine if u say that 100T looks better than lev and loud, but they don't look one bit better than c9. No way.
well they literally destroyed them so idk
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