if PRX disbands, who will get the most offers from international teams ?
If monyet count he will be no 4..
laeDLaer [#13]something, my man plays jett reyna gecko breach raze all at a high level and is easily a top 2 duelist after aspas ofc.
something raze???
bearmans [#11]f0rsaken might be the ones that all org wanted, but he won't swap region.
something would tho. and i think all of them would probably received a lot of intl team offer.
yea mindfreak probably go to RRQ or indonesian org, Something go to Zeta or japan org or can be an EMEA team
its hard to tell because the PRX roster is insanely stacked and quite equally skilled, thats why this is a discussion.
its also hard to tell because i feel like there would be teams that will offer up to 2 players in PRX, and basically EVERY team outside of the top 1-5ish could use a upgrade of any of these players, the offers would flow in like crazy.
that being said, if i had to pick one it would be forsaken imo, the man can play anything and everything and at a high level, just too valuable of an asset.
CoCloudy [#20]if prx disband i kill my cat named prxbundle
cloudy this is bait right? u named ur cat after Viper Deadlock or Reyna
Mortadelo [#9]Forsaken was, is and always will be PRX best player
to be fair, something had the best statistics in both LANS he played in, and had the highest stats in all of pacific 2023, and currently has the highest stats during pacific 2024
f0rsaken's probably still the best player, just due to his flexibility, but it's not like he's by far the best player on his team
Coures [#25]to be fair, something had the best statistics in both LANS he played in, and had the highest stats in all of pacific 2023, and currently has the highest stats during pacific 2024
f0rsaken's probably still the best player, just due to his flexibility, but it's not like he's by far the best player on his team
I’going based of eye test, forsaken has always been the most impactful player
Num1_Rushindra_Fan [#6]forsaken will be the first last will be davai/mindfreak
mindfreak will be middle really good player but no passion
dream01 [#17]yea mindfreak probably go to RRQ or indonesian org, Something go to Zeta or japan org or can be an EMEA team
nah something will get the bag from some na team for sure no way he joins zeta or japanese org
Mortadelo [#27]I’going based of eye test, forsaken has always been the most impactful player
not always. last year it was davai year
tomato211222 [#29]nah something will get the bag from some na team for sure no way he joins zeta or japanese org
japan has the bag now. na dont spend that much anymore
kirito5133 [#32]japan has the bag now. na dont spend that much anymore
nah my goat will come to na to shit on emea
Num1_Rushindra_Fan [#6]forsaken will be the first last will be davai/mindfreak
d4v4i is the best pacific player bro. what are you on about. im sure forsaken will be first but followed by d4v4i.
Coures [#4]ILYA "SOMETHING" PETROV
he's goated at carrying his team second place kekw
This is true.
Jihyeok [#26]T1 Pacific Superteam?!
prx people have clout too. all teams want what prx as fan following have
Psion [#22]cloudy this is bait right? u named ur cat after Viper Deadlock or Reyna
yes it is bait 😞
my kitty is named Psion :(
tomato211222 [#28]mindfreak will be middle really good player but no passion
he’s an igl, teams hesitate to switch igls alot
CoCloudy [#38]yes it is bait 😞
my kitty is named Psion :(
you do realize why i picked those 3 agents right?
soonwookong [#45]everyones getting offers definitely
or a big org signs the whole team
sign the whole team is super hard cause import restriction
WillZOLT [#49]sign the whole team is super hard cause import restriction
good point, they aint gonna be able to play in any of the vcls
laeDLaer [#16]yeah he can play it
last time i remembered him playing raze was when he got diff by Neth in japan
smthlikeyou11 [#19]its hard to tell because the PRX roster is insanely stacked and quite equally skilled, thats why this is a discussion.
its also hard to tell because i feel like there would be teams that will offer up to 2 players in PRX, and basically EVERY team outside of the top 1-5ish could use a upgrade of any of these players, the offers would flow in like crazy.
that being said, if i had to pick one it would be forsaken imo, the man can play anything and everything and at a high level, just too valuable of an asset.
I'm surprised you didn't pick yourself
ahdd [#53]I'm surprised you didn't pick yourself
unfortunately forsaken bangsat will always get more offer
Coures [#4]ILYA "SOMETHING" PETROV
he's goated at carrying his team second place kekw
idk duelist role is highly competive and something can only play 3 agents (reyna jett gekko) most teams dont play like prx and wont want to take a risk on someone as inflexable as him
Twentytwo [#8]F0rsaken, but i feel like he wouldn't fit in other teams, a team needs to be built around him.
Why wouldn't he? He's extremely flexible to just about every role.
Hades_Loves_Rb [#55]idk duelist role is highly competive and something can only play 3 agents (reyna jett gekko) most teams dont play like prx and wont want to take a risk on someone as inflexable as him
don't know why having a star duelist player on your team would be a risk in any way
he can play raze and breach as well, he just never had the opportunity to play raze bc jinggg's on his team
he can fit in to any roster and would be an immediate upgrade, he's the highest rated player on prx for a reason
Hades_Loves_Rb [#55]idk duelist role is highly competive and something can only play 3 agents (reyna jett gekko) most teams dont play like prx and wont want to take a risk on someone as inflexable as him
coz he doesnt need to play other dualists because his teammates can..
Sir_Johnny123 [#5]Forsaken
Something
d4v4i
Jinng
Mindfreakin that order
crazy to think mindfreak could be the last one to get offers but I actually agree
Psion [#47]you do realize why i picked those 3 agents right?
yup...
and I dont want to acknowledge what you were implying...
Twentytwo [#8]F0rsaken, but i feel like he wouldn't fit in other teams, a team needs to be built around him.
I'd argue that he would be the one to fit into any team. He comms well. Is flexible asf and would fit into any role. Isn't as aggressive and bound to overpeek like jingg or something. Can IGL and has really good game sense. I'd go as say Forsaken is the best player in Pacific without a doubt.
Nipstyx [#35]d4v4i is the best pacific player bro. what are you on about. im sure forsaken will be first but followed by d4v4i.
d4v41 also is the one playing with the least mistakes, so he can fit into any team
weirdly i think jinggg might get the least amount of offers purely because jinggg requires you to build the team around him
not to say he wouldnt get a metric fuckton but lots of teams would also pass on him in favour of their own cores
the other players are much easier to slot into a preexisting roster that was already built around another player
way way easier to build around a player you have rather than a player you dont
sanknight [#62]bleed acquires the whole roster cuz singapore + richer lol
cant argue the richer thing hahaha
WillZOLT [#49]sign the whole team is super hard cause import restriction
maybe bleed will or some indo org with money
Italogee [#2]forsaken fosho
but why? something has been consistently the best player ever since joining prx statistically while jinggg is straight up the more impactful player. i feel like this f0rsaken cope is just really forced, it’s always about the highs with this guy but never the lows
spongebobb [#75]but why? something has been consistently the best player ever since joining prx statistically while jinggg is straight up the more impactful player. i feel like this f0rsaken cope is just really forced, it’s always about the highs with this guy but never the lows
one word
flexibility
spongebobb [#75]but why? something has been consistently the best player ever since joining prx statistically while jinggg is straight up the more impactful player. i feel like this f0rsaken cope is just really forced, it’s always about the highs with this guy but never the lows
you good? something has NOT been the most consistent, and is not the best on the team. also, this is about who teams will offer for most. they won't offer more to a crazy reyna/jett/gekko player because he wont fit anyone's style very well, whereas f0rsaken knows how to play all types of valorant on all agents to a very high standard
_Esdeath_ [#76]one word
flexibility
So what? he can play whatever role is needed at a relatively decent level, how does that make him more valuable than someone who can play a role like a top 3?
spongebobb [#78]So what? he can play whatever role is needed at a relatively decent level, how does that make him more valuable than someone who can play a role like a top 3?
because something plays like a madman, which no big team would really want. Not many teams need a reyna, so something would only play gekko and jett or maybe raze, cos his breach is kinda ass. f0rsaken can fill any role to a very high standard so he can fit into any team, and his playstyle fits most teams, unlike something who will run around doing his own thing. he literally admitted that most of the time he just does and peeks whatver he wants in game
UsmanSy3d [#77]you good? something has NOT been the most consistent, and is not the best on the team. also, this is about who teams will offer for most. they won't offer more to a crazy reyna/jett/gekko player because he wont fit anyone's style very well, whereas f0rsaken knows how to play all types of valorant on all agents to a very high standard
something was the highest rated PRX player for the Pacific League (1st) and Champions 2023. He’s also the highest rated PRX player for Kick Off, Madrid, and even right now for Split 1. You’re stupid, he’s infinitely more consistently great than f0rsaken, he has a 1.15 rating for all of last year (higher than Less and Demon1) whereas f0rsaken sits at a 1.04. He’s individually more valuable and that’s a fact he’s been showing.
The blind, collective belief to say something isn’t better than f0rsaken is upsetting, especially when it’s widely accepted by something’s own team’s fanbase.
spongebobb [#80]something was the highest rated PRX player for the Pacific League (1st) and Champions 2023. He’s also the highest rated PRX player for Kick Off, Madrid, and even right now for Split 1. You’re stupid, he’s infinitely more consistently great than f0rsaken, he has a 1.15 rating for all of last year (higher than Less and Demon1) whereas f0rsaken sits at a 1.04. He’s individually more valuable and that’s a fact he’s been showing.
The blind, collective belief to say something isn’t better than f0rsaken is upsetting, especially when it’s widely accepted by something’s own team’s fanbase.
And you think big teams are ready to rebuild around him? his playstyle needs so much more adapting to if you want to succeed. the reason he does well on prc is cos of PRX's style. Put something on any team that is not willing to rebuild around his playstyle and he will not succeed. f0rsaken can be put into any team of any playstyle, heck you could even put him onto navi and he would still fill any role and play slow because he is adaptive and will still play at a very high standard
UsmanSy3d [#81]And you think big teams are ready to rebuild around him? his playstyle needs so much more adapting to if you want to succeed. the reason he does well on prc is cos of PRX's style. Put something on any team that is not willing to rebuild around his playstyle and he will not succeed. f0rsaken can be put into any team of any playstyle, heck you could even put him onto navi and he would still fill any role and play slow because he is adaptive and will still play at a very high standard
Are you stupid? He farmed the Japanese league like a madman you idiot, it’s why PRX considered signing him in the first place. PRX didn’t make something the player he already is. You’re acting like something wouldn’t still dominate if he was on a different team, he’s your region’s Demon1 you idiot. His playstyle isn’t some complex black magic he plays like any other aggro duelist but better.
Congrats on severely downplaying your team’s best player to prove a false point though. Maybe one day he’ll leave the team to find fans who don’t believe he’s unironically less valuable than f0rsaken.
UsmanSy3d [#79]because something plays like a madman, which no big team would really want. Not many teams need a reyna, so something would only play gekko and jett or maybe raze, cos his breach is kinda ass. f0rsaken can fill any role to a very high standard so he can fit into any team, and his playstyle fits most teams, unlike something who will run around doing his own thing. he literally admitted that most of the time he just does and peeks whatver he wants in game
You really are stupid. something does not deserve fans like you for his performance. The belief in saying that a superstar duelist akin to players like aspas isn’t as valuable as a decent multi flex is already the dumbest shit I’ve seen on this site.
something could cure cancer mid elimination series and the entirety of the VCT community would still jack off to f0rsaken going 0.88 overall playing harbour cypher kayo. Most of you guys are the same idiots that would put f0rsaken anywhere remotely near the GOAT discussion when he’s an individually worse and less consistent Chronicle minus the three majors, what more does something need to prove.
spongebobb [#83]You really are stupid. something does not deserve fans like you for his performance. The belief in saying that a superstar duelist akin to players like aspas isn’t as valuable as a decent multi flex is already the dumbest shit I’ve seen on this site.
something could cure cancer mid elimination series and the entirety of the VCT community would still jack off to f0rsaken going 0.88 overall playing harbour cypher kayo. Most of you guys are the same idiots that would put f0rsaken anywhere remotely near the GOAT discussion when he’s an individually worse and less consistent Chronicle minus the three majors, what more does something need to prove.
The idea is who will get the most offers, so ideally forsaken is a candidate to replace every role in every team in vct. An example would be leviatan who don't necessarily need another cracked entry, but need better support players. There are countless such examples where forsaken would be a better fit overall. You are missing the gist of the question.
_Esdeath_ [#85]The idea is who will get the most offers, so ideally forsaken is a candidate to replace every role in every team in vct. An example would be leviatan who don't necessarily need another cracked entry, but need better support players. There are countless such examples where forsaken would be a better fit overall. You are missing the gist of the question.
I’m really really not, if you believe that the extremely vast majority of VCT teams wouldn’t replace their duelist for something over picking up a flex player like f0rsaken then you are on drugs. The fact that you had to use LEV as an example on why they wouldn’t pick up something when they have fucking aspas is proof you have no idea what you’re talking about.
We are again treating this like something and f0rsaken are displaying the same level of gameplay when that’s not the case at all. There is a very real gap in terms of skill between something and f0rsaken, f0rsaken is in no way a big enough threat to be a reasonable candidate to replace every player on every team.
spongebobb [#87]I’m really really not, if you believe that the extremely vast majority of VCT teams wouldn’t replace their duelist for something over picking up a flex player like f0rsaken then you are on drugs. The fact that you had to use LEV as an example on why they wouldn’t pick up something when they have fucking aspas is proof you have no idea what you’re talking about.
We are again treating this like something and f0rsaken are displaying the same level of gameplay when that’s not the case at all. There is a very real gap in terms of skill between something and f0rsaken, f0rsaken is in no way a big enough threat to be a reasonable candidate to replace every player on every team.
Looking at just pure ratings is not the only indicator whether a player is gonna get offers though? Most IGLs have shit rating yet they get alot of offers because they provide a different set of skills and value to the team compare to fraggers like Something / Aspas. Forsaken in this case provides most teams across the world flexibility and innovations in how agents like Yoru or harbour can be played at the highest level, while still being able to frag really well when needed.
Edit: is something gonna get some crazy maybe even record breaking offer? Yea i believe he can and probably will in the off chance PRX disbands either now or in the future when he gets even better. Is he gonna get the most offers though? Not exactly, since many teams already have a set core / star fragger in their team, switching the entire team chemistry out and trying to rebuild ( not knowing whether it will pay off) is not worth the risk for those teams that have already settled, hence why forsaken may receive the MOST offers, not the highest paid offer but the MOST offers from teams, since his skillset provides an upgrade to most players while not disrupting the team playstyle / chemistry due to how flexible he can be while still performing at a pretty high level
Alova02 [#88]Looking at just pure ratings is not the only indicator whether a player is gonna get offers though? Most IGLs have shit rating yet they get alot of offers because they provide a different set of skills and value to the team compare to fraggers like Something / Aspas. Forsaken in this case provides most teams across the world flexibility and innovations in how agents like Yoru or harbour can be played at the highest level, while still being able to frag really well when needed.
Edit: is something gonna get some crazy maybe even record breaking offer? Yea i believe he can and probably will in the off chance PRX disbands either now or in the future when he gets even better. Is he gonna get the most offers though? Not exactly, since many teams already have a set core / star fragger in their team, switching the entire team chemistry out and trying to rebuild ( not knowing whether it will pay off) is not worth the risk for those teams that have already settled, hence why forsaken may receive the MOST offers, not the highest paid offer but the MOST offers from teams, since his skillset provides an upgrade to most players while not disrupting the team playstyle / chemistry due to how flexible he can be while still performing at a pretty high level
Yes dude, f0rsaken is for sure the one bringing the innovation on the table for PRX, coach of the year behaviour from him. Why would a team go for someone like aspas or something when f0rsaken can show them how to play Harbor and Yoru at an average level.
I am now 100% convinced Pacific has the dumbest VCT following.
spongebobb [#89]Yes dude, f0rsaken is for sure the one bringing the innovation on the table for PRX, coach of the year behaviour from him. Why would a team go for someone like aspas or something when f0rsaken can show them how to play Harbor and Yoru at an average level.
I am now 100% convinced Pacific has the dumbest VCT following.
He is.. though? Have you seen their voice comps, their vlogs and other related videos / behind the scenes? also have u even seen my edit on my opinion about how something would probably get the highest paid offers, while forsaken get the most individual offers due to how both of their skillsets offer completely different upgrades / value to different teams depending on their current position? I believe something is the most mechanical player in not just PRX but top 3 in the world after he gets more experience and not overheat as much ( which is happening very rarely already ), but thats not to discredit why most people in this thread is choosing forsaken as the one with the MOST individual offers, which is simply due to him being able to fit into most teams while offering great value and upgrades to most teams who just need a bit more power, a bit more value to be a top tier team.
Sir_Johnny123 [#5]Forsaken
Something
d4v4i
Jinng
Mindfreakin that order
i think it would be more
f0rsakeN
d4v41
Jingg
Something
Mindfreak
laeDLaer [#13]something, my man plays jett reyna gecko breach raze all at a high level and is easily a top 2 duelist after aspas ofc.
something does not play breach and raze at a high level. he's a jett one trick. his gekko is average. reyna doesnt even count.
something isnt even a top 5 duelist in terms of the role. Players like zekken, miniboo, texture, aspas, jawgemo (as duelist), and derke are all significantly better at the duelist role.
spongebobb [#89]Yes dude, f0rsaken is for sure the one bringing the innovation on the table for PRX, coach of the year behaviour from him. Why would a team go for someone like aspas or something when f0rsaken can show them how to play Harbor and Yoru at an average level.
I am now 100% convinced Pacific has the dumbest VCT following.
The baiting from you is crazy
You're acting like a 9year old kid wanting a toy. Having a conversation with you is so pointless coz you will just always say the same thing "but something is a great player" are we just gonna ignore how he underperformed in kickoff and swiss stage Madrid? F0rsaken is not bringing the innovation in, he's allowing it to happen. He learns new agents extremely quickly. Can play anyone at a really high level. He is the sole reason prx can run those goofyah comps. Also do you realize how many star duelists there are out there compared to flex players
spongebobb [#82]Are you stupid? He farmed the Japanese league like a madman you idiot, it’s why PRX considered signing him in the first place. PRX didn’t make something the player he already is. You’re acting like something wouldn’t still dominate if he was on a different team, he’s your region’s Demon1 you idiot. His playstyle isn’t some complex black magic he plays like any other aggro duelist but better.
Congrats on severely downplaying your team’s best player to prove a false point though. Maybe one day he’ll leave the team to find fans who don’t believe he’s unironically less valuable than f0rsaken.
You need to appreciate people that don't play Duelist more coz right now you sound like a song on repeat
spongebobb [#82]Are you stupid? He farmed the Japanese league like a madman you idiot, it’s why PRX considered signing him in the first place. PRX didn’t make something the player he already is. You’re acting like something wouldn’t still dominate if he was on a different team, he’s your region’s Demon1 you idiot. His playstyle isn’t some complex black magic he plays like any other aggro duelist but better.
Congrats on severely downplaying your team’s best player to prove a false point though. Maybe one day he’ll leave the team to find fans who don’t believe he’s unironically less valuable than f0rsaken.
something throws the most rounds on prx 😹this bot is obsessed with the op and will save to buy an op every other round on attack just for him to end up being a walking ult orb (or pad his stats after his whole team is already dead)
spongebobb [#89]Yes dude, f0rsaken is for sure the one bringing the innovation on the table for PRX, coach of the year behaviour from him. Why would a team go for someone like aspas or something when f0rsaken can show them how to play Harbor and Yoru at an average level.
I am now 100% convinced Pacific has the dumbest VCT following.
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Kinga [#65]Jinggg would be higher
I think for a teams felxiblity he would not. He is still an insane player but teams would rather world class flex players