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greatest of each era

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DBStudios

if the greatest of each year were placed in a double elim playoff like tourney (like madrid) who you got winning

2021 - sen (don't have to explain this they were just better and dominated iceland)
2022 - optic/loud (gonna have to say optic due to iceland and how dominate they were there + how consistent they stayed but you could argue if loud was better but were pretty even)
2023 - eg (no fraudnatic kekw team got cooked at champs when teams actually were playing with monitors and no subs)
2024 - sen (yeah don't have to explain this one either)

bracket: sen (21) vs eg, optic (or loud if you think they were better) vs sen (24)

(also just realized that all these teams are america teams i did not do that on purpose lmao they just better i guess)

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destroylonely
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based for not saying fnatic in 2023

+bump

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Bro, 2024 isn't even over yet. Also, 2022 is LOUD imo.

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2021- Gambit
2022- Loud
2023- Fnatic
2024 (to date)- Sen

Gambit wins overall

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2021 sen
2022 optic
2023 prx
2024 sen

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n1cf
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stopped reading at 2021 sen

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YeaUrMum
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n1cf [#6]

stopped reading at 2021 sen

Where was fut tho 😹

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n1cf
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YeaUrMum [#7]

Where was fut tho 😹

erm, you should look at your own flair before talking

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DBStudios
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Sir_Johnny123 [#4]

2021- Gambit
2022- Loud
2023- Fnatic
2024 (to date)- Sen

Gambit wins overall

prime sen was and still is the most dominate team that valorant has ever seen i can see your argument for gambit but they would get cooked under sen. Also fraudnatic kekw.

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Sir_Johnny123 [#4]

2021- Gambit
2022- Loud
2023- Fnatic
2024 (to date)- Sen

Gambit wins overall

gamb0t not even a team bro

so shit they disbanded and left esports

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n1cf
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babysasuke [#10]

gamb0t not even a team bro

so shit they disbanded and left esports

EEEWWWW YOU LOOK SO WRONG BRO PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK TO FAZE

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babysasuke
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n1cf [#11]

EEEWWWW YOU LOOK SO WRONG BRO PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK TO FAZE

I'm actually having a hard time finding my name when I go through threads kkkkkkkkk

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Asuna_Yuuki
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n1cf [#11]

EEEWWWW YOU LOOK SO WRONG BRO PLEASE CHANGE IT BACK TO FAZE

He has seen the light

He has realized who the greatest team in VALORANT is

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Sir_Johnny123
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DBStudios [#9]

prime sen was and still is the most dominate team that valorant has ever seen i can see your argument for gambit but they would get cooked under sen. Also fraudnatic kekw.

They had a International run without dropping a map thats not the same to the most dominant team. Why wasn't Sen in their Prime during masters Berlin or champs of 2021????

Fraudnatic done the first back to back VCT Lan winners without losing an international series (More dominant then 2021 sen considering the level of play) .

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AcidXD [#5]

2021 sen
2022 optic
2023 prx
2024 sen

prx lmaoo

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Sir_Johnny123 [#4]

2021- Gambit
2022- Loud
2023- Fnatic
2024 (to date)- Sen

Gambit wins overall

Redgarbage carried by coach 😭😭😭 Nats washed 😭😭 most overrated team oat

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cboomer
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StutterSt3p [#3]

Bro, 2024 isn't even over yet. Also, 2022 is LOUD imo.

correct

3 top 3 finishes and 1 masters win < 2 top 3 finishes and 1 champs win

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beaver_man [#16]

Redgarbage carried by coach 😭😭😭 Nats washed 😭😭 most overrated team oat

They diffed NA most consistent team with Redgar playing reyna on their perma ban.

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tsmsobadholy
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2021 SEN most overrated team in history

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Sir_Johnny123 [#18]

They diffed NA most consistent team with Redgar playing reyna on their perma ban.

Didn’t they lose to 100turds , that’s just embarrassing 😭😭

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Sir_Johnny123
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beaver_man [#20]

Didn’t they lose to 100turds , that’s just embarrassing 😭😭

They won that event though 😜

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Sir_Johnny123 [#14]

They had a International run without dropping a map thats not the same to the most dominant team. Why wasn't Sen in their Prime during masters Berlin or champs of 2021????

Fraudnatic done the first back to back VCT Lan winners without losing an international series (More dominant then 2021 sen considering the level of play) .

i think 2023 EG champs was better than any fnatic run, and lets just be frank, loud was very new at lock in and tokyo is stained because of PRX and Demon1 visa issues

SEN also won masters 1 in 2021

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If you think Optic was better than Loud you HAVE to pick Fnatic over EG

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DBStudios
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Sir_Johnny123 [#14]

They had a International run without dropping a map thats not the same to the most dominant team. Why wasn't Sen in their Prime during masters Berlin or champs of 2021????

Fraudnatic done the first back to back VCT Lan winners without losing an international series (More dominant then 2021 sen considering the level of play) .

fnatic had the same falloff as sen did? 2023 "best team in the world", 2024 "why they keep throwing + will they get into another international?" also lockin was a lab experiment where teams could test their newly made rosters and even then they almost got cooked. plus no argument can be made to justify that teams at tokyo were not just total garbage (prx sub eg no practice with demon1 ardiis throwing nrg loud had internal conflicts) while no team in 2021 vs sen had basically any problems

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YeaUrMum
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n1cf [#8]

erm, you should look at your own flair before talking

GE clears FUT

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Sir_Johnny123
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cboomer [#22]

i think 2023 EG champs was better than any fnatic run, and lets just be frank, loud was very new at lock in and tokyo is stained because of PRX and Demon1 visa issues

SEN also won masters 1 in 2021

Extreme cope to dissmiss the most consistent team of 2023. They only lost 3 games across the whole year.

SEN won masters 1 in 2021 and fell apart straight after? Gambit had a far better year than them

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DBStudios
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Rakzr [#23]

If you think Optic was better than Loud you HAVE to pick Fnatic over EG

both are the same basically i only put optic over them because of iceland they are literally even in everything according to stats

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cboomer
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Sir_Johnny123 [#26]

Extreme cope to dissmiss the most consistent team of 2023. They only lost 3 games across the whole year.

SEN won masters 1 in 2021 and fell apart straight after? Gambit had a far better year than them

sen won two masters

EG made the same amount of finals as FNC except they dominated champs 2023 which was the highest level event, only competition is champs 2022 and copenhagen

tokyo and lockin are widely regarded as less competitivate

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DBStudios [#24]

fnatic had the same falloff as sen did? 2023 "best team in the world", 2024 "why they keep throwing + will they get into another international?" also lockin was a lab experiment where teams could test their newly made rosters and even then they almost got cooked. plus no argument can be made to justify that teams at tokyo were not just total garbage (prx sub eg no practice with demon1 ardiis throwing nrg loud had internal conflicts) while no team in 2021 vs sen had basically any problems

Yep extreme biased. Everyone else has caught up to Fnatic level of play, if they lose vs any other team thats not KC TH OR NAVI in emea, i will say they fell off.

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Sir_Johnny123
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cboomer [#28]

sen won two masters

EG made the same amount of finals as FNC except they dominated champs 2023 which was the highest level event, only competition is champs 2022 and copenhagen

tokyo and lockin are widely regarded as less competitivate

tokyo and lockin are widely regarded as less competitivate

Delusional, get your yessmen NAtards to back you up. idc 😂 👍

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cboomer
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Sir_Johnny123 [#30]

tokyo and lockin are widely regarded as less competitivate

Delusional, get your yessmen NAtards to back you up. idc 😂 👍

was lock in and tokyo harder than champs 2023?

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thenutoriousPRO
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2021 sen won one tournament and became shit
real answer is gambit

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DeluluGavin
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2021 - Gambit. End of discussion. Sure SEN had the impact but it has to be gambit.

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Sir_Johnny123
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cboomer [#31]

was lock in and tokyo harder than champs 2023?

https://www.vlr.gg/220448/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-gf
This is the 2023 champs winner.

Loud literally threw the 5th map of champs vs EG running trio Smoke comp on bind.
https://www.vlr.gg/248283/evil-geniuses-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lbf/?game=137663&tab=overview

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DBStudios
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Sir_Johnny123 [#29]

Yep extreme biased. Everyone else has caught up to Fnatic level of play, if they lose vs any other team thats not KC TH OR NAVI in emea, i will say they fell off.

couldn't adapt to loud twice in champs and are now getting cooked by two emea teams. shouldn't the best of all time not be throwing these matches and losing to these teams?

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DBStudios [#27]

both are the same basically i only put optic over them because of iceland they are literally even in everything according to stats

Loud won the most competitive event of the year and you are looking at a fluke iceland win of optic?

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cboomer
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Sir_Johnny123 [#34]

https://www.vlr.gg/220448/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-gf
This is the 2023 champs winner.

Loud literally threw the 5th map of champs vs EG running trio Smoke comp on bind.
https://www.vlr.gg/248283/evil-geniuses-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lbf/?game=137663&tab=overview

they didn't practice with demon1 leading to tokyo and PRX had a sub?

i don't get your point either, if loud threw vs EG what do fuck would you consider what LOUD did map 5 vs fnatic?

So apparently by your logic loud threw vs EG but your lucky ass 11-3 comeback is good and super dominant?

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DBStudios
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NoOne_ButMe [#36]

Loud won the most competitive event of the year and you are looking at a fluke iceland win of optic?

legit said they the same and could be replaced pls read next time

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geospliced
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Gambit 2021? 🟥

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DBStudios [#38]

legit said they the same and could be replaced pls read next time

Loud and EG both got to 1 masters finals and won the most important tournament

While Optic and Fnatic where the most consistent teams of the year while losing the most important tournament.

Thats why i said if you think Optic was the better team in 2022 you have to put Fnatic better than EG in 2023

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Zaba
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Sentinels 2021 Lost to nagzet and soulcas. They don't were the best of 21

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Rakzr [#40]

Loud and EG both got to 1 masters finals and won the most important tournament

While Optic and Fnatic where the most consistent teams of the year while losing the most important tournament.

Thats why i said if you think Optic was the better team in 2022 you have to put Fnatic better than EG in 2023

his brain stopped functioning due to bias

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Zaba [#41]

Sentinels 2021 Lost to nagzet and soulcas. They don't were the best of 21

what are you trying to argue??? gambit lost to both 100t and acend yet people are saying they were the best of 21? plus gambit weren't even at all 3 lan events sen was. and kru almost beat gambit as well on their run at champs where they beat sen too

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sentinelmain377
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cboomer [#22]

i think 2023 EG champs was better than any fnatic run, and lets just be frank, loud was very new at lock in and tokyo is stained because of PRX and Demon1 visa issues

SEN also won masters 1 in 2021

ur biased asfuck and dont realize how they shit on everyone and were the first team ever to maintain their position at the top

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sentinelmain377
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gambit 2021 and optic 2022 and fnc 2023 u dumass

optic got 1st, 3rd, and 2nd (consistently top 3 and champs finalist)
while LOUD got 2nd, then flopped at Copenhagen by going 0-2 (getting 11th/12th place), and then won champs (1st) cuz they saved strats at Copenhagen...

do u know how big of an accomplishment FNC has?
"it is easier to get to the top, then to maintain your position at the top"
and FNC is the only team to ever maintain their position at the top and SHIT on everyone

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2021: Gambit (No debate, if you think SEN were better you are dick sucking)
2022: LOUD/OPTIC (Could say either and I would have no issue)
2023: FNATIC (When most if not all of the community said they were the best team in the world, and you won 2 Masters in a row and came top 4 at champs, there is no question.)
2024: NAVI (Ange1 is the GOAT)

If you disagree you either:
1: Glaze SEN for 2021 (got grouped by Shitquid and Kru)
2: Hate EMEA
3: Have a mental disability (NRG fans)

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Simp4S0m
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Proof that TenZ and Sacy are the goat

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KyLZi
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localkoolkid [#46]

2021: Gambit (No debate, if you think SEN were better you are dick sucking)
2022: LOUD/OPTIC (Could say either and I would have no issue)
2023: FNATIC (When most if not all of the community said they were the best team in the world, and you won 2 Masters in a row and came top 4 at champs, there is no question.)
2024: NAVI (Ange1 is the GOAT)

If you disagree you either:
1: Glaze SEN for 2021 (got grouped by Shitquid and Kru)
2: Hate EMEA
3: Have a mental disability (NRG fans)

I agree, however, I still have a mental disability :/

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Psion
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cboomer [#17]

correct

3 top 3 finishes and 1 masters win < 2 top 3 finishes and 1 champs win

LOUD only lost to optic and kru that whole year while Optic lost to rise, EG, LOUD, Guild, FPX, paper rex, Xset, xerxia, V1, and TGRD.

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BLuko
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Sen wasn't the team of 2021 BUT their win in iceland was historic on the basis of winning the first lan without dropping a map.

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Zaba
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DBStudios [#43]

what are you trying to argue??? gambit lost to both 100t and acend yet people are saying they were the best of 21? plus gambit weren't even at all 3 lan events sen was. and kru almost beat gambit as well on their run at champs where they beat sen too

Gambit >

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