2023 EG was a Fluke

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Let us be honest, 2023 EG is possibly the biggest fluke team ever (Yes, even more fluke than floptic)

Before 2023, the EG players were NOBODIES who's biggest achievement was beating floptic that one time (again, most teams were able to do this)

After 2023, these players go back to being BUMS who consistantly drag their team down

Cum - Dosen't know what to do once he cannot flank anymore

Botsio - Match fixing putting up barely double digits with some of the worst calling ever

Jawgemo - so called best raze itw being diffed by a player floating around in the depths of NA t3 (basically EU ascendant 3)

Demon1 - Considerably worse than last year although still a good NA player (If it was EMEA he would be bottom 5)

Ethan - Despite his "experience" he cannot call for shit and it only reflects on his fragging ability as well

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Navi isnt a fluke despite the fact none of their players have found success since champions 2022. Good post.

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Navi trophy : 0

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2023 NAVI tho 💀

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bro had it on the clipboard kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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lol wtf is this post
boostio does look "bad"
com out of form possible that potter did a lot and his lurking got figured out tbh
Ethan is fine
Demon 1 is fine
Jawgemo off day imo

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Facts

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EU bot region fans need to stop using the word fluke

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Jawgemo: best raze itw

how dare you disrespect glorious jinggg like that

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ZettGundam [#3]

Navi trophy : 0

they do have 1 brainded
just the org doesnt

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2023 NAVI tho 💀

came back for this 💀

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grenji [#2]

Navi isnt a fluke despite the fact none of their players have found success since champions 2022. Good post.

ardiis had success last year lol

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sentinelmain377 [#13]

they do have 1 brainded
just the org doesnt

Nrg has 2 trophies?

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grenji [#2]

Navi isnt a fluke despite the fact none of their players have found success since champions 2022. Good post.

Reykjavik 2022: Couldnt attend the event cuz of war. Definitely top 1 tho, minimum top 3
Copenhagen 2022: 1st
Champs 2022: 4th
LOCK//IN: 3rd/4th
Tokyo 2023: 11th
Champs 2023: (placed 9th, but realistically were minimum top 7 (you would agree if you watched DRX vs NAVI and LOUD vs NAVI in groups))
Madrid: Didnt attend event (Realistically, top 10 team in the world with (SEN, NRG, LOUD, GENG, PRX, T1, TH, KC, FNC))

they have basically been in top 10 since start of 2022, that is pretty successful

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sentinelmain377 [#18]

Reykjavik 2022: Couldnt attend the event cuz of war. Definitely top 1 tho, minimum top 3
Copenhagen 2022: 1st
Champs 2022: 4th
LOCK//IN: 3rd/4th
Tokyo 2023: 11th
Champs 2023: (placed 9th, but realistically were minimum top 7 (you would agree if you watched DRX vs NAVI and LOUD vs NAVI in groups))
Madrid: Didnt attend event (Realistically, top 10 team in the world with (SEN, NRG, LOUD, GENG, PRX, T1, TH, KC, FNC))

they have basically been in top 10 since start of 2022, that is pretty successful

outrageous copium, that is to be expected though

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Duxk [#17]

Nrg has 2 trophies?

bro???
all the players and the coach won a trophy

whas ur point u biased fk

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widepeepofrosty [#19]

outrageous copium, that is to be expected though

Copium?????
how

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Psion [#16]

ardiis had success last year lol

by being the worst player on his ok team? Congrats to ardiis for losing to PRX with a sub then getting grouped by Bili Bili 👏👏👏

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Duxk [#17]

Nrg has 2 trophies?

smartest NRG fan

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sentinelmain377 [#18]

Reykjavik 2022: Couldnt attend the event cuz of war. Definitely top 1 tho, minimum top 3
Copenhagen 2022: 1st
Champs 2022: 4th
LOCK//IN: 3rd/4th
Tokyo 2023: 11th
Champs 2023: (placed 9th, but realistically were minimum top 7 (you would agree if you watched DRX vs NAVI and LOUD vs NAVI in groups))
Madrid: Didnt attend event (Realistically, top 10 team in the world with (SEN, NRG, LOUD, GENG, PRX, T1, TH, KC, FNC))

they have basically been in top 10 since start of 2022, that is pretty successful

lock-in where they got the unarguably easiest route to playoffs then got 3-0d by fnatic (wasn't even close)

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Psion [#16]

ardiis had success last year lol

Bind sage performance?

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Why n0vi fans yapping

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Single digit IQ tbh

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grenji [#22]

by being the worst player on his ok team? Congrats to ardiis for losing to PRX with a sub then getting grouped by Bili Bili 👏👏👏

no, getting 4th at masters tokyo

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EMEA saying this when they have Acend in their roster

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Evil Genuises' players work better as a team. Just because they don't look to hot as of right now (debatable), that still doesn't take away from what they did in 2023. Sure if Mibr didn't win against 100t, MAYBE EG wouldn't have been as good as they were by the end of they year, but they proved their worth in their International League Playoffs by defeating cloud9 and NRG once and by qualifying to performing great at Masters. Not only that but they won against PRX in the grand finals of Champs. If it were truly a fluke, EG wouldn't make it past their group in Masters. The teams they are on today are very different then the teams they have now. It is still somewhat early in the season so who knows where they will be later on in VCT.

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Psion [#30]

no, getting 4th at masters tokyo

NRG got 4th because of S0m and Crashies, as well as FNS' spectacular calling vs Liquid.

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EU ascendant 3 😭😭😭😭

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grenji [#33]

NRG got 4th because of S0m and Crashies, as well as FNS' spectacular calling vs Liquid.

im not saying he earned the success but he definitely had success lol

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sentinelmain377 [#21]

Copium?????
how

champs 2022- easy ass group to farm, won against kru, exposed by xset, and then farmed kru again to make playoffs

instantly sent to lower bracket by drx, won against a leviatan who were group merchants and barely scraped by xset before losing to drx again that same tournament.

navi's entire 2023 year was complete shit:

lock//in = free group to farm (kru, lev, ts), and then as soon as they make playoffs, INSTA 0-3 to fnatic

tokyo - shit the bed HARD by losing to nrg and edg, not even winning a singular series the whole tourney

champs 2023- close maps against a garbage team liquid who won 1 game internationally that whole year, exposed by loud and drx after

GIVEN FREE GROUPS FOR 3 TOURNAMENTS STRAIGHT (champs 2022 - tokyo), AND STILL SHIT THE BED WHEN IT MATTERED MOST LMFAO

TLDR: NOT A SINGLE IMPRESSIVE SERIES WIN FROM CHAMPS 2022 AND ONWARDS.

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_amBrian [#12]

Jawgemo: best raze itw

how dare you disrespect glorious jinggg like that

Sadly no passific player can ever be the best in the world

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n0vi flair talking horseshit what do u expect

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Now that I think about it I’ve never seen a tolerable Navi fan, might have the worst fanbase in vct atp

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widepeepofrosty [#36]

champs 2022- easy ass group to farm, won against kru, exposed by xset, and then farmed kru again to make playoffs

instantly sent to lower bracket by drx, won against a leviatan who were group merchants and barely scraped by xset before losing to drx again that same tournament.

navi's entire 2023 year was complete shit:

lock//in = free group to farm (kru, lev, ts), and then as soon as they make playoffs, INSTA 0-3 to fnatic

tokyo - shit the bed HARD by losing to nrg and edg, not even winning a singular series the whole tourney

champs 2023- close maps against a garbage team liquid who won 1 game internationally that whole year, exposed by loud and drx after

GIVEN FREE GROUPS FOR 3 TOURNAMENTS STRAIGHT (champs 2022 - tokyo), AND STILL SHIT THE BED WHEN IT MATTERED MOST LMFAO

TLDR: NOT A SINGLE IMPRESSIVE SERIES WIN FROM CHAMPS 2022 AND ONWARDS.

own that freak

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widepeepofrosty [#36]

champs 2022- easy ass group to farm, won against kru, exposed by xset, and then farmed kru again to make playoffs

instantly sent to lower bracket by drx, won against a leviatan who were group merchants and barely scraped by xset before losing to drx again that same tournament.

navi's entire 2023 year was complete shit:

lock//in = free group to farm (kru, lev, ts), and then as soon as they make playoffs, INSTA 0-3 to fnatic

tokyo - shit the bed HARD by losing to nrg and edg, not even winning a singular series the whole tourney

champs 2023- close maps against a garbage team liquid who won 1 game internationally that whole year, exposed by loud and drx after

GIVEN FREE GROUPS FOR 3 TOURNAMENTS STRAIGHT (champs 2022 - tokyo), AND STILL SHIT THE BED WHEN IT MATTERED MOST LMFAO

TLDR: NOT A SINGLE IMPRESSIVE SERIES WIN FROM CHAMPS 2022 AND ONWARDS.

bro
Champs 2022: they beat XSET in the rematch? (plus 5th 6th 7th 8th were FNC XSET LEV TL), so FPX was definitely 4th there and that was deserved.
LockIn I guess good argument, (but they were still top 5 (only NRG was better than them possibly))
Tokyo: I agree they shit the bed
Champs 2023:
(they did not get exposed by LOUD and DRX : look at scorelines:
https://www.vlr.gg/247102/natus-vincere-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-winners-d 13-15, 13-9, 12-14
https://www.vlr.gg/247104/natus-vincere-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-decider-d 13-11, 11-13, 11-13
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uwukitten [#24]

lock-in where they got the unarguably easiest route to playoffs then got 3-0d by fnatic (wasn't even close)

11-13 on 2 maps
4-13 loss on 1 map

they had 2 close maps
stop spreading misinformation

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xelto1 [#28]

Single digit IQ tbh

Stop being generous

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sentinelmain377 [#18]

Reykjavik 2022: Couldnt attend the event cuz of war. Definitely top 1 tho, minimum top 3
Copenhagen 2022: 1st
Champs 2022: 4th
LOCK//IN: 3rd/4th
Tokyo 2023: 11th
Champs 2023: (placed 9th, but realistically were minimum top 7 (you would agree if you watched DRX vs NAVI and LOUD vs NAVI in groups))
Madrid: Didnt attend event (Realistically, top 10 team in the world with (SEN, NRG, LOUD, GENG, PRX, T1, TH, KC, FNC))

they have basically been in top 10 since start of 2022, that is pretty successful

mf they were 11-12 at tokyo and 9-12 at Champs don't do this "11th and 9th" bullshit

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sentinelmain377 [#42]

11-13 on 2 maps
4-13 loss on 1 map

they had 2 close maps
stop spreading misinformation

them having the easiest path of any team to top 4 was not misinformation

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Psion [#44]

mf they were 11-12 at tokyo and 9-12 at Champs don't do this "11th and 9th" bullshit

NAVI > ASE (random ass chinese team that snuck in to the event)
NAVI > NRG (billibilli) & GIANTS & T1 (only if you watched the games, you would know)

stop making clueless assumptions

read #41

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sentinelmain377 [#42]

11-13 on 2 maps
4-13 loss on 1 map

they had 2 close maps
stop spreading misinformation

having close maps in an easy group does not mean the group was magically more difficult it just means the team is ass...

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grenji [#33]

NRG got 4th because of S0m and Crashies, as well as FNS' spectacular calling vs Liquid.

Bro forgot how NRG made that comeback vs Liquid.

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sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#47]

having close maps in an easy group does not mean the group was magically more difficult it just means the team is ass...

against FNC they had 2 close maps

they shit on lev ts and kru bro (it wasnt like they were struggling or anything)
https://www.vlr.gg/167363/natus-vincere-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-ro16
https://www.vlr.gg/167370/team-secret-vs-natus-vincere-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-qf
https://www.vlr.gg/167374/natus-vincere-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-sf
all 2-0s

13-5, 13-10, 13-8, 13-4, 13-10, 13-2

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sentinelmain377 [#46]

NAVI > ASE (random ass chinese team that snuck in to the event)
NAVI > NRG (billibilli) & GIANTS & T1 (only if you watched the games, you would know)

stop making clueless assumptions

read #41

thats not how placements work dumbass

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Ballsamolee [#43]

Stop being generous

Ikr but u gotta be nice to mentally challenged people u know

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Mental issues

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sentinelmain377 [#49]

against FNC they had 2 close maps

they shit on lev ts and kru bro (it wasnt like they were struggling or anything)
https://www.vlr.gg/167363/natus-vincere-vs-kr-esports-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-ro16
https://www.vlr.gg/167370/team-secret-vs-natus-vincere-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-qf
https://www.vlr.gg/167374/natus-vincere-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-sf
all 2-0s

13-5, 13-10, 13-8, 13-4, 13-10, 13-2

bragging about "shitting on" 3 teams that went combined 9-18 in league play LMAOOO are all n0vi fans delusional or?

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bragging about "shitting on" 3 teams that went combined 9-18 in league play LMAOOO are all n0vi fans delusional or?

dumass
are you illiterate or what

the guy i was replying to thought that NAVI had close maps to the bad teams and not FNC

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LMAO even this bot boostio is admitting it

https://twitter.com/Boostio/status/1777156677852446733

he thinks its all a joke, this is why he will never win anything

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Brimstan [#55]

LMAO even this bot boostio is admitting it

https://twitter.com/Boostio/status/1777156677852446733

he thinks its all a joke, this is why he will never win anything

'this is why he will never win anything'

but... he did. In fact it was at the pinnacle of competition (champs)

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'this is why he will never win anything'

but... he did. In fact it was at the pinnacle of competition (champs)

Like I said, Champs was a fluke win from a fluke team; it only gets worse for the team from here on out

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Brimstan [#57]

Like I said, Champs was a fluke win from a fluke team; it only gets worse for the team from here on out

dude your team has been fucking dogshit for two years lmfao. When was the last time any EMEA team other than Fnatic was even remotely relevant. And even then EMEA's only good team is starting to fall off because they dont know how to adapt to metas. Valorant is all pacific and Americas now

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sentinelmain377 [#54]

dumass
are you illiterate or what

the guy i was replying to thought that NAVI had close maps to the bad teams and not FNC

bros coping about a 3-0 being close and im the dumbass LMAO i cant bro

here i'll give you a list of every 3-0 you can correctly label as "close":

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bros coping about a 3-0 being close and im the dumbass LMAO i cant bro

here i'll give you a list of every 3-0 you can correctly label as "close":

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https://www.vlr.gg/19089/sentinels-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-gf/?game=34299&tab=overview

14-12, 16-14, 13-11
just to name 1

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brain-dead

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Why you booing him he's right

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TRUEST statements have never been spoken, actual 5 bums.

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only demon1 can play
Else now looks worse than MxS

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EG 2023 roster is being carried by Potter, she definitely know how to use them but as individually player they didn't know how to play optimally except for Demon1 who had practiced his aim

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sentinelmain377 [#61]

https://www.vlr.gg/19089/sentinels-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-gf/?game=34299&tab=overview

14-12, 16-14, 13-11
just to name 1

the way you cope you surely have to be a leafs fan no?
u cant get 3-0d and call the series "close" for a series to be close you need to have a serious chance of winning it
cant have a serious chance of winning a series you lose all the maps in
doesnt matter if they're all sextuple overtime

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EG was indeed a fluke but jawgemo and goat1 are legit.

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LMAO this shitjamo guy can't fucking shoot

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Brimstan [#69]

LMAO this shitjamo guy can't fucking shoot

bro had to revive his brainrot thread

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BrotherMan [#70]

bro had to revive his brainrot thread

1 hit wonder is crazy, too bad the good baiters are all banned xd

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EG won champs and they will polish their Champions trophy 🏆 for years before NAVI is good enough to sniff a Champions finals.

These are not opinions like everything you said. They are just FACTS.

Sit and cry little bitch.

I know it’s hard to be irrelevant for YEARS, but at least try to act like a man and stop wallowing in your tears 😭

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BrotherMan [#70]

bro had to revive his brainrot thread

Just wanted to bring attention to the fact that I predicted this

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c0m, ethan, and semen1 washed as well LMAO