Thursday, April 18th
11:00 AM EDT
Patch 8.05
BBL ban Lotus; TH ban Ascent; BBL pick Split; TH pick Sunset; BBL ban Bind; TH ban Breeze; Icebox remains
Betting
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Valorant EMEA
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3 Icebox
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Pistol Won Eco (won) $ (won) $$ (won) $$$ (won)
BBL
1
5 (1)
5 (1)
5 (2)
28 (22)
TH
3
5 (3)
2 (0)
15 (5)
21 (9)
Eco: 0-5k $ Semi-eco: 5-10k $$ Semi-buy: 10-20k $$$ Full buy: 20k+
Head-to-head
Past Matches
Comments:
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#1
Armedous
79
Frags
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BBL 2-0 th

#2
IchbinAhmet
-1
Frags
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ez for heretics and woot

#3
uliw
-2
Frags
+

TH 2-0

#4
LanceStrong
-2
Frags
+

TH 2 - 0 The Goat is back

#5
Mogu_________
-3
Frags
+

Good first match for woot wont be much stress for him build up confidence

#6
TheBlackRubi
-1
Frags
+

wo0t its ¨Niño Madera¨ he is the power of the team 2-0 THWIN

#7
Selfim
-1
Frags
+

TH boutta show that they are the best team in EMEA with this match

#8
n1cf
-2
Frags
+

wo0t's first ever official match in VCT... drops 100

#9
benmaimoon
1
Frags
+

patitek drops -40 🔥
Boo drops -45 🔥
TH still wins tho

#10
y0yster
17
Frags
+

Big Booty Latinas >>>>>

#11
Vesprit
8
Frags
+

Should be 2-1 BBL

#12
trvnq
-3
Frags
+

TH should win this, Miniboo goes +30

#13
MaGaCr09
-4
Frags
+

free odds TH

#14
Erennnnn_
-1
Frags
+

Ez for el niño woot

#15
cocow7k
0
Frags
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benmaimoon [#9]

patitek drops -40 🔥
Boo drops -45 🔥
TH still wins tho

play Woot instead of patitek, but that's how it would be xd

#16
benmaimoon
0
Frags
+
cocow7k [#15]

play Woot instead of patitek, but that's how it would be xd

woot said he can't play this week as well

#17
cocow7k
0
Frags
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benmaimoon [#16]

woot said he can't play this week as well

He said it on Sunday, but finally on Monday he was granted the visa and today he flew to Berlin.
https://twitter.com/WootVL/status/1780475011595174399

#18
benmaimoon
-1
Frags
+
cocow7k [#17]

He said it on Sunday, but finally on Monday he was granted the visa and today he flew to Berlin.
https://twitter.com/WootVL/status/1780475011595174399

oh my bad then... finally lil bro made it

#19
Aquemini
-1
Frags
+
cocow7k [#17]

He said it on Sunday, but finally on Monday he was granted the visa and today he flew to Berlin.
https://twitter.com/WootVL/status/1780475011595174399

This shit like when the oracle fish in super said "the strongest warrior in the universe will soon rise up".

#20
TheBlackRubi
0
Frags
+
MaGaCr09 [#13]

free odds TH

brother como haces para que te salga el escudo del equipo al lado de tu nombre

#21
Selfim
-2
Frags
+
Vesprit [#11]

Should be 2-1 BBL

bro is 1 year behind

#22
shawtytofu
-2
Frags
+

rip BBL

#23
kAED
4
Frags
+

BBL definitely wins a map, wouldn't be surprised if the take it. Had them in my pickem but accidentally changed it...

#24
Ceycey0707
3
Frags
+

çook önemli maç bizim olsun 2-1 FORZA BBL

#25
KochamSmakKoziejSpermy
0
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IchbinAhmet [#2]

ez for heretics and woot

wait woot playing or not

#26
bronzil_enjoyer
2
Frags
+

can big booty latinas do something>

#27
biozarro
0
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+
TheBlackRubi [#20]

brother como haces para que te salga el escudo del equipo al lado de tu nombre

go to top right of website, settings, set flair

#28
appl
1
Frags
+

BBL! BEAT TEAM HERETICS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

#29
FlexinVL
0
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KochamSmakKoziejSpermy [#25]

wait woot playing or not

no he gonna play next week

#30
Tryeue1
0
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bronzil_enjoyer [#26]

can big booty latinas do something>

no something(ilya) is all mine 🍃

#31
G2thelion
0
Frags
+
FlexinVL [#29]

no he gonna play next week

Wait but he did tweet something with an airplane emoji yesterday so he could play but he's not gonna play yet or did you just miss that tweet or see something else from the team?

#32
n1cf
0
Frags
+
G2thelion [#31]

Wait but he did tweet something with an airplane emoji yesterday so he could play but he's not gonna play yet or did you just miss that tweet or see something else from the team?

https://www.vlr.gg/post/3404433/wo0t

#33
YaoMung
0
Frags
+

Pre-match predictions, BBL 2-1 Heretics.
Could Heretics have been scrimming with Woot more since his arrival? Was this the reason for the loss of chemistry in their match against VItality? Whilst BBL isn't the strongest team, I do believe they have a swing to take a map and potentially win the match.

#34
RipNuk-
-3
Frags
+

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#35
LanceStrong
0
Frags
+
RipNuk- [#34]

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True

#36
Prontera
0
Frags
+

BBL +1.5 @2.07 odds. Pepega. woot factor Or what? I feel like BBL capable to take a map.

#37
-mazzini
0
Frags
+

Based on what I’m seeing on X woot will play, TH last 5 matchups have been all tough opponents and each game has been close. Gotta feel a 2-0 inbound I’m putting up cash on this one 2 units -114 odds 🤑

#38
bearmans
0
Frags
+
-mazzini [#37]

Based on what I’m seeing on X woot will play, TH last 5 matchups have been all tough opponents and each game has been close. Gotta feel a 2-0 inbound I’m putting up cash on this one 2 units -114 odds 🤑

wo0t is playing?
no chance then.

#39
-mazzini
0
Frags
+
bearmans [#38]

wo0t is playing?
no chance then.

Yes he’s expected to play

#40
triker
0
Frags
+

Who gets to pick 1st map? Or is it just random?

#41
biozarro
0
Frags
+
YaoMung [#33]

Pre-match predictions, BBL 2-1 Heretics.
Could Heretics have been scrimming with Woot more since his arrival? Was this the reason for the loss of chemistry in their match against VItality? Whilst BBL isn't the strongest team, I do believe they have a swing to take a map and potentially win the match.

u betting that? haha

#42
youssef714
0
Frags
+
-mazzini [#39]

Yes he’s expected to play

wo0t not playing today

#43
wetmoon
0
Frags
+

light for th, no need wo0t.

#44
cocow7k
1
Frags
+
wetmoon [#43]

light for th, no need wo0t.

still 2-0 for th, with or without woot

#45
Lanced
-1
Frags
+

Worst team in emea vs heretics
Bbl 0-2
4-13
7-13

#46
wetmoon
0
Frags
+
cocow7k [#44]

still 2-0 for th, with or without woot

for sure.

#47
FrostyMan
0
Frags
+

Guys, what a better bet on this match?

#48
PandaShampoo
0
Frags
+
FrostyMan [#47]

Guys, what a better bet on this match?

Map 1 bbl then tH comeback for better odds

#49
KlobotXXL
0
Frags
+

considering how bad patitek is i think bbl could win this one

#50
Dhrom49
0
Frags
+
KlobotXXL [#49]

considering how bad patitek is i think bbl could win this one

patitek was woot's replacement and now woot will play

#51
Hipflask
0
Frags
+

bbl take 1 map

#52
kram7679
0
Frags
+
Hipflask [#51]

bbl take 1 map

Series

#53
yippykovac
0
Frags
+

Heretics playing scared

#54
oyasumigg
4
Frags
+

emea val is actually so full of matchfixing its insane

#55
BrandsTip
0
Frags
+

these bots are the most overrated timer in the history of valorant

#56
BrandsTip
-1
Frags
+

5x1 6x13 haha bots degenered

#57
Twentytwo
0
Frags
+

Prx ptsd for sure haha

#58
mjrxa
0
Frags
+

how the frick did they 2-0 fnatic to lose to some bums LMAO

#59
Zeron
1
Frags
+

bro heretics bettors are mad LMAO

#60
YaoMung
0
Frags
+
biozarro [#41]

u betting that? haha

Of course bro

#61
BrandsTip
-4
Frags
+

m3 easily runs over bbl th wins 2x0 fnatic fnatic humiliates m8 bbl humiliates th What a disgusting thing this championship is hahaho

#62
FORZABBL
2
Frags
+
Lanced [#45]

Worst team in emea vs heretics
Bbl 0-2
4-13
7-13

wOrSt TeAm iN EmEa
max hırsız fanı

#63
Selfim
0
Frags
+
Selfim [#7]

TH boutta show that they are the best team in EMEA with this match

Well no woot so :(

#64
Twentytwo
0
Frags
+
Twentytwo [#57]

Prx ptsd for sure haha

13-7 too so poetic

#65
Imsexylexy
1
Frags
+

Team Heritecs run is over you cant lie

#66
YaoMung
1
Frags
+
Zeron [#59]

bro heretics bettors are mad LMAO

Caught BBL +1.5 @2.6, worth

#67
yippykovac
0
Frags
+

5-1 to 7-13 is kinda pathetic ,

#68
ilovetoast
31
Frags
+
Armedous [#1]

BBL 2-0 th

ur on to something

#69
Selfim
3
Frags
+
Selfim [#21]

bro is 1 year behind

Damn i now know how it feels like to be a dumbass

#70
Zeron
0
Frags
+
YaoMung [#66]

Caught BBL +1.5 @2.6, worth

good for you bro lmao this is hilarious

#71
UsmanSy3d
4
Frags
+

stupid TH coach still salty from when he called PRX win lucky and now he's losing to BBL lmao

#72
Selfim
0
Frags
+
BrandsTip [#61]

m3 easily runs over bbl th wins 2x0 fnatic fnatic humiliates m8 bbl humiliates th What a disgusting thing this championship is hahaho

I love reading bettor comments. Makes me feel a lot better about myself

#73
PandaShampoo
0
Frags
+
PandaShampoo [#48]

Map 1 bbl then tH comeback for better odds

Your welcome. +200 on that map 1 now throw your gain on TH comeback

#74
kAED
1
Frags
+

#23

Called it, so sad for my pickem (heretics can still 2-1 tho)

#75
1ucid
0
Frags
+

where woot

#76
BrandsTip
-1
Frags
+
Selfim [#72]

I love reading bettor comments. Makes me feel a lot better about myself

nice. now make me a kebab

#77
hazardmeister
0
Frags
+

same score like map 1 ez bbl

#78
Breloof
1
Frags
+
oyasumigg [#54]

emea val is actually so full of matchfixing its insane

Nobody's matchfixing bro, we just suck

#79
milkyway23
1
Frags
+

minibot check paypal

#80
Sonatine
-3
Frags
+
milkyway23 [#79]

minibot check paypal

He owned zekken and TenZ, so he can't be that bad.

#81
Sonatine
4
Frags
+

People calling Elite the next Alfajer might not be wrong after all. In T2 he was insane. BBL might just needed a bit more time... and they showed in the offseason their potential against FUT already.

#82
BBeyoNd
0
Frags
+
IchbinAhmet [#2]

ez for heretics and woot

YAT AŞŞA FİREFLUX

#83
rkeoeoeoo
1
Frags
+

9 odds for 2-0 btw

#84
milkyway23
0
Frags
+

haha boo nice throw judge long range lol

#85
vinny111
15
Frags
+
ilovetoast [#68]

ur on to something

U wanna say smth?

#86
appl
8
Frags
+
Armedous [#1]

BBL 2-0 th

he did NOT LIE

#87
seggy
5
Frags
+
Armedous [#1]

BBL 2-0 th

what was bro cooking

#88
onDez
1
Frags
+

BBL Played really good ngl

#89
Olorin
0
Frags
+

QUTİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİİ

#90
MoonBound
-5
Frags
+

FRAUDS imagine losing to BBL. Nah EMEA is the most random region in VCT

#91
Xuan
2
Frags
+
Selfim [#69]

Damn i now know how it feels like to be a dumbass

whahaha atleast ur aware

#92
withsn
0
Frags
+
rkeoeoeoo [#83]

9 odds for 2-0 btw

both map have 5 live odds

#93
Caskale
7
Frags
+
MoonBound [#90]

FRAUDS imagine losing to BBL. Nah EMEA is the most random region in VCT

BBL is just STRONG. Admit it

#94
Realm3098
0
Frags
+

Off day for miniboob all good

#95
yippykovac
0
Frags
+

Miniboo and Boo 100% throwing

#96
snowild
3
Frags
+
Sonatine [#81]

People calling Elite the next Alfajer might not be wrong after all. In T2 he was insane. BBL might just needed a bit more time... and they showed in the offseason their potential against FUT already.

They didn't show anything against FUT, it was a show match, if you look at those compositions you'll understand.

#97
Japan322
0
Frags
+
withsn [#92]

both map have 5 live odds

7+ second map

#98
dante19
10
Frags
+
Armedous [#1]

BBL 2-0 th

lisan al gaib

#99
AuraFLN
1
Frags
+

What the hell did i just watch?

Split looked like, Th wanted to save strats...

Wp to BBL, but i didnt aspected that!

#100
Savage__
0
Frags
+

19 entry is kinda insane .

#101
alche
2
Frags
+
Armedous [#1]

BBL 2-0 th

he didn't even hesitate

#102
Hamonnnn
3
Frags
+
Armedous [#1]

BBL 2-0 th

let him cook again

#103
appl
0
Frags
+

the beautiful game

#104
Exmor
1
Frags
+
ilovetoast [#68]

ur on to something

LOOK THE FİNAL

#105
Breakfilz
2
Frags
+

EMEA 2 stages in a row being the most unpredictable region, went from TH and KC qualifying over FNC & Navi, to BBL & Vit beating TH, and Fut beating KC

#106
Motendo4ever
0
Frags
+

f

#107
catmeister
1
Frags
+

I love my country

#108
BigBrad
0
Frags
+
Savage__ [#100]

19 entry is kinda insane .

This is how an entry should be played!

#109
Selfim
0
Frags
+
BrandsTip [#76]

nice. now make me a kebab

Coming right up my g

#110
Dentondabest
4
Frags
+
Armedous [#1]

BBL 2-0 th

you might be the goat

#111
Homare
3
Frags
+

Wins against Fnatic, Lose against BBL LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#112
KwangPangtungkangLove420
0
Frags
+

what in the flippity fuck

#113
nieto973
0
Frags
+
ilovetoast [#68]

ur on to something

bro is timothee

#114
batchestingveryhard
3
Frags
+

so we’re frauds now

#115
sexocum
2
Frags
+
Armedous [#1]

BBL 2-0 th

damn turkish delusion not real for once.

#116
corolalala
0
Frags
+

the fuck is happening

#117
RobBats007
3
Frags
+
Armedous [#1]

BBL 2-0 th

What do you foresee for us Lisan al-gaib

#118
rhusy
-2
Frags
+
IchbinAhmet [#2]

ez for heretics and woot

Yes u are right greek boy ez sit down

#119
ErisGG
0
Frags
+

losing to brazilian butt lift is crazy ngl

#120
desporita
7
Frags
+

TH > FNC
BBL > TH
BBL > FNC ?

#121
Serkann75
0
Frags
+

ELITE...

#122
zahin1018
0
Frags
+
-mazzini [#37]

Based on what I’m seeing on X woot will play, TH last 5 matchups have been all tough opponents and each game has been close. Gotta feel a 2-0 inbound I’m putting up cash on this one 2 units -114 odds 🤑

How much u lose?

#123
CkaanA
0
Frags
+
Selfim [#63]

Well no woot so :(

Well bbl just better :)

#124
eXster0
0
Frags
+
ilovetoast [#68]

ur on to something

Bwahahahaha

#125
destroylonely
-1
Frags
+

EU so dogshit holy fk

#126
destroylonely
0
Frags
+
Sonatine [#80]

He owned zekken and TenZ, so he can't be that bad.

youre right, hes terrible!

#127
iscanthere
0
Frags
+
Mogu_________ [#5]

Good first match for woot wont be much stress for him build up confidence

sure?

#128
BadlandsChugs
-2
Frags
+

This region is cooked

#129
PENTAKIM
7
Frags
+

Fnatic > Gentle Mates > BBL > Heretics > Fnatic

#130
Kryogenix
0
Frags
+
PENTAKIM [#129]

Fnatic > Gentle Mates > BBL > Heretics > Fnatic

Literally bro how

#131
unknown_trash
0
Frags
+
Armedous [#1]

BBL 2-0 th

LISAN AL GAIB!

#132
unknown_trash
0
Frags
+
RobBats007 [#117]

What do you foresee for us Lisan al-gaib

Stilgar cosplay incoming

#133
bearmans
1
Frags
+

what the fuck

#134
rekt1v1
0
Frags
+

what

#135
Caskale
1
Frags
+
PENTAKIM [#129]

Fnatic > Gentle Mates > BBL > Heretics > Fnatic

BBL > Gentle Mates. bbl just had a bad day

#136
Caskale
0
Frags
+
Homare [#111]

Wins against Fnatic, Lose against BBL LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

BBL has great potential bro. You shouldn't underestimate them. The roster isnt even weak

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