Thoughts on TL coach?

~2 years with the 2nd biggest org in EMEA, and has never made a real top 5 world contending team.

like sure he has made playoffs many times in internationals, but they have always been mid and never a scary team even when they qualify for playoffs.

like drx choke a lot, but still leave a lot of impact on the tournament. liquid dont

i dont think being top 8 in the world is a bad achievement at all, but have liquid ever reached their true potential under him? (other than that emea league final)

many people might think i want to troll liquid or emil, or i am straight up hating, but i genuinely want to know what people think about him.

doombros clears

Final chance this year ngl

what has sliggy done with scream and nivera in team
cursed org

definitely a fraud, fire him and hire steel to coach. easy fix

I mean they did won last year VCT EMEA no?

evvve [#5]

definitely a fraud, fire him and hire steel to coach. easy fix

steel is just waiting for his valve ban to expire and is then jumping back into CS. No chance

meyournightmare [#4]

what has sliggy done with scream and nivera in team
cursed org

Almost won 2021 champs. Coach can't really help with his team just choking

0fcuZ [#6]

I mean they did won last year VCT EMEA no?

no one cares about region cups. fnatic lost and obviously didnt care as they went on to tokyo to win it, while liquid bombs out as usual.

evvve [#9]

no one cares about region cups. fnatic lost and obviously didnt care as they went on to tokyo to win it, while liquid bombs out as usual.

How has nAts been ? I have not been up to date with EMEA stuffs but looking at the stats from vlr he looks completely different than I have known him.

danii1 [#8]

Almost won 2021 champs. Coach can't really help with his team just choking

and they defeated fnc to win last season

0fcuZ [#10]

How has nAts been ? I have not been up to date with EMEA stuffs but looking at the stats from vlr he looks completely different than I have known him.

not even top 3 in the leuge on senti, not top 10 itw on senti, not top 20 itw in general

danii1 [#8]

Almost won 2021 champs. Coach can't really help with his team just choking

different coach

kapteN [#7]

steel is just waiting for his valve ban to expire and is then jumping back into CS. No chance

LMAOOOO

kapteN [#7]

steel is just waiting for his valve ban to expire and is then jumping back into CS. No chance

it already expired I thought

nutab1e [#15]

it already expired I thought

it expires in January 2025, on the ten-year anniversary of IBuyPower ban

Enghh looks really solid on KC. I hope they can do some good and get him in the drivers seat

for the caliber of Liquid(as an organization) and the resources he's had, the results are definitely lacking. i wouldn't call him a fraud now, but i think this is the year Liquid need to win a trophy.

somebody said that potter could probably get better results with the same rosters TL has had. i wish we could actually run that through a simulation because I can't tell if TL is just doomed to choke or if it's genuinely a coach problem

melon_fan [#3]

Final chance this year ngl

soulcas got 3, he has another 1 left in him for sure

kapteN [#7]

steel is just waiting for his valve ban to expire and is then jumping back into CS. No chance

brotha is 47 years old, surely not his priority will be to be a pro once his ban is removed

He's deffo on fraudwatch

0fcuZ [#6]

I mean they did won last year VCT EMEA no?

yeah and that was it. liquid always peaks at the wrong time. its either the lcq or something like the league final which basically doesnt mean a lot. and again winning once vs fnatic isnt a good enough achievement to overlook the underachievement of the team liquid roster rest of the time

0fcuZ [#10]

How has nAts been ? I have not been up to date with EMEA stuffs but looking at the stats from vlr he looks completely different than I have known him.

still the best player in the world. a total waste on any iteration of liquid till now. he can only carry them to a few map wins, thats all. he would undoubtedly be top 5 itw if he was on a more competetive team.

babushka_boii95 [#17]

Enghh looks really solid on KC. I hope they can do some good and get him in the drivers seat

true but relevance?

Older brother by 7 minutes clears

ButterflyEffect23 [#18]

for the caliber of Liquid(as an organization) and the resources he's had, the results are definitely lacking. i wouldn't call him a fraud now, but i think this is the year Liquid need to win a trophy.

yeah and fuck trophy. even if they do something like loud did last year, make top 3 multiple times in international events, even that would be impressive.

chiharushiba [#19]

somebody said that potter could probably get better results with the same rosters TL has had. i wish we could actually run that through a simulation because I can't tell if TL is just doomed to choke or if it's genuinely a coach problem

after seeing kick off, i was disappointed. last year TL did have issues coz of sayf and redgar clash, so i am willing to give emil another chance. i just hope he can prove me wrong this time.

who knows what potter could've done with liquid, we'll never know

yawnster [#22]

He's deffo on fraudwatch

thats the right thing to do at the moment

Twentytwo [#26]

Older brother by 7 minutes clears

they can be brothers like boo and miniboo, where both of them are solid

symbols07 [#25]

true but relevance?

I implied that its time for emil to leave and Liquid to get Enghh

babushka_boii95 [#31]

I implied that its time for emil to leave and Liquid to get Enghh

considering that enghh created the current kc roster it would take a LOT for him to leave and join TL tbh, current kc has an incredible ceiling

symbols07 [#27]

yeah and fuck trophy. even if they do something like loud did last year, make top 3 multiple times in international events, even that would be impressive.

Well... First they need to qualify...

Usz7 [#33]

Well... First they need to qualify...

they probably will qualify for shanghai and then be mid again , thats the issue

TL Definitely has a IGL curse. Kryptix, Scream, Redgar and now Enzo phew

In my opinion, they should try everything to get Bonkar when he becomes available

Team Liquid is like the Tottenham of valorant they will never win a meaningful trophy

BigAbdi [#36]

In my opinion, they should try everything to get Bonkar when he becomes available

that would be such a good pickup

tsmsobadholy [#37]

Team Liquid is like the Tottenham of valorant they will never win a meaningful trophy

true