this is the region we’re supposed to be afraid of 😂😂😂
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Itsover [#7]TR is not EU, get your facts straight.
EMEA and EU are the same they’re both terrible 😂
Velocity23 [#9]EMEA and EU are the same they’re both terrible 😂
EMEA is not terrible cuz CIS exists, I agree abt the rest.
Gutssz [#3]remember last year 😂😂😂
EMEA trophy: 😂😂
NA: 😂
you talking about mickey mouse lock in and a lucky masters 😂 What happened in the true test of skill champions, oh EU no where to be seen in Top 3 😂😂
Velocity23 [#11]you talking about mickey mouse lock in and a lucky masters 😂 What happened in the true test of skill champions, oh EU no where to be seen in Top 3 😂😂
why is Champions, not a Mickey Mouse tournament , coz NA won xD
H0r0sha [#13]why is Champions, not a Mickey Mouse tournament , coz NA won xD
Lock in: very little prep, new team, can take advantage of old cores and newer teams who don’t have much chemistry
Champions: more developed talent, more teams, more stakes, more time to scrim and reach your peak. But where was EU with all this time and perks? Oh 4th place and Liquid (EU 1st place winner) bombed out.
Any reply?
Velocity23 [#14]Lock in: very little prep, new team, can take advantage of old cores and newer teams who don’t have much chemistry
Champions: more developed talent, more teams, more stakes, more time to scrim and reach your peak. But where was EU with all this time and perks? Oh 4th place and Liquid (EU 1st place winner) bombed out.
Any reply?
was the duration of prep for LOCK IN - 2 years for fnatic? dumbarse everyone was playing on same grounds - your region didnt win doesnt mean it was a mickeymouse tourney
_nakuwul [#16]was the duration of prep for LOCK IN - 2 years for fnatic? dumbarse everyone was playing on same grounds - your region didnt win doesnt mean it was a mickeymouse tourney
nice straw man argument 😂. Take one point and blow it up. Ignore the rest.
Gutssz [#3]remember last year 😂😂😂
EMEA trophy: 😂😂
NA: 😂
I'd rather win champions than the other 2 tourneys of the year lol
Velocity23 [#14]Lock in: very little prep, new team, can take advantage of old cores and newer teams who don’t have much chemistry
Champions: more developed talent, more teams, more stakes, more time to scrim and reach your peak. But where was EU with all this time and perks? Oh 4th place and Liquid (EU 1st place winner) bombed out.
Any reply?
Lock In: So you are saying Fnatic had great prep , great chemistry and other teams were not? But everyone started at same time right.
What about Masters then, is it not enough time for teams to improve starts, chemistry.
Champions: Liquid and Navi are already falling apart due to internal issues and coordination.
Fnatic burnt out, anti started by most of the teams as they is not much time to reinvent because it's hard to improve when you were not loosing.
Martinao [#15]He was the best player in NA tier2. All big orgs wanted him but he chose Karmine Corp
No he wasn’t bro
You really think he chose KC over one of the more better NA orgs?
If he joined an NA franchising team he would have gotten more money, better team, be able to stay in his country
He went to Karmine corp because he didn’t get NA offers
You are making things up
Cacachocolat [#2]It's the region that will shit on NA in a few weeks
actually delusional though... is this the same copium supply that got eu 4th place at champs
H0r0sha [#20]Lock In: So you are saying Fnatic had great prep , great chemistry and other teams were not? But everyone started at same time right.
What about Masters then, is it not enough time for teams to improve starts, chemistry.Champions: Liquid and Navi are already falling apart due to internal issues and coordination.
Fnatic burnt out, anti started by most of the teams as they is not much time to reinvent because it's hard to improve when you were not loosing.
So in your opinion the tournament that matters most is the first because so teams don’t get burnt out? That’s a dumb excuse. Everyone knows that champions was the most important tournament
Velocity23 [#11]you talking about mickey mouse lock in and a lucky masters 😂 What happened in the true test of skill champions, oh EU no where to be seen in Top 3 😂😂
Your whole cinderella story relied on a 100T choke against MIBR.
You can call FNCs win mickey mouse trophies, but you need to admit then that your Masters run atleast, if not your Champs run aswell, was based purely on luck and on another teams failure. A great storyline, but nothing else.
Btw, EU 1-1 NA on Champs, but 5-3 on major trophies still. Get that level, then i might accept your crazy take.
Velocity23 [#23]So in your opinion the tournament that matters most is the first because so teams don’t get burnt out? That’s a dumb excuse. Everyone knows that champions was the most important tournament
So if Champions is slightly better than other tournaments, that mean you just ignore them .
Velocity23 [#23]So in your opinion the tournament that matters most is the first because so teams don’t get burnt out? That’s a dumb excuse. Everyone knows that champions was the most important tournament
"Fnatic burnt out" is crazy
ice3 [#24]Your whole cinderella story relied on a 100T choke against MIBR.
You can call FNCs win mickey mouse trophies, but you need to admit then that your Masters run atleast, if not your Champs run aswell, was based purely on luck and on another teams failure. A great storyline, but nothing else.
Btw, EU 1-1 NA on Champs, but 5-3 on major trophies still. Get that level, then i might accept your crazy take.
Saying that EG beat FUT, PRX, Liquid, LOUD, and DRX cuz of luck is misleading, it definitely takes more than luck to pull off those results. 100T choking against MIBR was lucky for EG but if EG had bombed out 0-2 in masters it still would've been lucky for EG, don't discount their performance.
Psion [#19]I'd rather win champions than the other 2 tourneys of the year lol
So would fnatic lmao, that's what these delusional na haters don't seem to get
MadnessMedia [#26]"Fnatic burnt out" is crazy
Exactly, even his reasons for LockIn is a Mickey Mouse tournament is crazy. That's my point.
His reasons are like, since they are not Champions Tournament, no one is preparing for those tournaments (Lock In, Masters) and Fnatic has been preparing for Lock In from Valorant Beta xD.
_nakuwul [#16]was the duration of prep for LOCK IN - 2 years for fnatic? dumbarse everyone was playing on same grounds - your region didnt win doesnt mean it was a mickeymouse tourney
FNC got Leo and Chronicle as soon as 2022 off season ended, whereas other teams did not even have a solidified roster until 2 weeks before the event.
They were playing off season tournaments together while everyone else was still on vacation
If you don't think that is big advantage ur dum
Asuna_Yuuki [#21]No he wasn’t bro
You really think he chose KC over one of the more better NA orgs?
If he joined an NA franchising team he would have gotten more money, better team, be able to stay in his country
He went to Karmine corp because he didn’t get NA offers
You are making things up
nrg wanted him lol until demon1 and ethan became avaiable
Martinao [#15]He was the best player in NA tier2. All big orgs wanted him but he chose Karmine Corp
nismo and zander exist
Flumplestiltski [#31]FNC got Leo and Chronicle as soon as 2022 off season ended, whereas other teams did not even have a solidified roster until 2 weeks before the event.
They were playing off season tournaments together while everyone else was still on vacation
If you don't think that is big advantage ur dum
let them live in delusion bro. they really think that FNATIC would choose those trophies over CHAMPIONS at the end of the year
It's not a flex. EMEA is mostly a T2 region. We have 2, maybe 3 teams that can solidly compete at the top international level. Fnc , Navi and vit (maybe).
Fut are mid, they've never exceeded 8th internationally. They've never beaten any good teams at International tournaments either. There's definitely a tier break. They're a solid T2 team.
H0r0sha [#29]Exactly, even his reasons for LockIn is a Mickey Mouse tournament is crazy. That's my point.
His reasons are like, since they are not Champions Tournament, no one is preparing for those tournaments (Lock In, Masters) and Fnatic has been preparing for Lock In from Valorant Beta xD.
Bro he doesn't think LOCK IN and masters are mickey mouse tournaments he's just saying stuff to trigger na haters and it's working. I agree with him that even tho EU won two titles last year, the champions title matters significantly more and EU had far from a dominant year. Also yes, LOCK IN was a tournament where few teams seemed well-prepped and in the form we would see from the them for the rest of the year (Fnatic was one of them), which absolutely makes Fnatic's dominance less impressive. The fact that they've been scrimming since beta (with a different roster...) and the rest of the teams hadn't been scrimming since beta and were thus less prepped is similar to the point I'm making.
MadnessMedia [#27]Saying that EG beat FUT, PRX, Liquid, LOUD, and DRX cuz of luck is misleading, it definitely takes more than luck to pull off those results. 100T choking against MIBR was lucky for EG but if EG had bombed out 0-2 in masters it still would've been lucky for EG, don't discount their performance.
I probably misformulated my point , and at second thought, its very misleading.
EGs runs at the tournaments itself were not lucky at all, in fact, they were by far the better team in any of the games besides their games against FNC and PRX.
The point i wanted to make(which isnt really a point, its just a rant because someone thinks EU wins count less than NA wins at events)
was that EG got into playoffs for Masters/Champs because of the failure of another team and a freak game. If 100T won against MIBR, EG wouldnt attend Tokyo, they might have missed out on Champs aswell and everything would have turned out completely different.
Asuna_Yuuki [#8]He couldn’t even do this against NA tier 2 on duelist
Imagine what he would do to these EMEA teams if he was not on flex
Wdym lmao he had many better averages in NA, maybe check before typing this thing? He played 38 rounds to get 40 frags, it wasnt like 13-8 or smth lol
Tutatong [#38]Yeah maybe he dropped 40 but in 38 rounds lol thats barely 1 kill per round
Hes on fucking fade dawg
OkOkay [#41]Hes on fucking fade dawg
Ok so players in NA dropping 22 frags in 19 rounds ON FADE, or 26 sova in 19 are ok but 40 in 38 is something else? lmao
Tutatong [#42]Ok so players in NA dropping 22 frags in 19 rounds ON FADE, or 26 sova in 19 are ok but 40 in 38 is something else? lmao
you said thats barely 1 kill per round so why didnt anyone else do that good? If its so easy right?
Tutatong [#42]Ok so players in NA dropping 22 frags in 19 rounds ON FADE, or 26 sova in 19 are ok but 40 in 38 is something else? lmao
maybe because its double???? and its hard to maintain a 1k per round stat with more rounds. Like dropping 100 kills in 100 rounds is basically impossible if your losing half the rounds.
Tutatong [#38]Yeah maybe he dropped 40 but in 38 rounds lol thats barely 1 kill per round
you are retarded bro, thats incredibly hard to maintain 1 kill per round over that many rounds
especially if its ot cuz u gonna keep losing and winning rounds so its hard asf
also having 1 kpr is impressive regardless
velocity05 [#43]you said thats barely 1 kill per round so why didnt anyone else do that good? If its so easy right?
Because you don't play 40 rounds on every map? lol
Tutatong [#46]Because you don't play 40 rounds on every map? lol
you do realize nobody had a 1k per round stat in the champions tourney. demon1 was closest eith a .92
Asuna_Yuuki [#8]He couldn’t even do this against NA tier 2 on duelist
Imagine what he would do to these EMEA teams if he was not on flex
N4rrate couldn't do this in NA because he didn't have a squad of 4 cracked EMEA players around him.
Tutatong [#46]Because you don't play 40 rounds on every map? lol
you are upvoting your own comments that so sad. Also im talking about that map specifically on Lotus, FUT vs KC why didnt any other player get 1 frag per round?
velocity05 [#43]you said thats barely 1 kill per round so why didnt anyone else do that good? If its so easy right?
https://www.vlr.gg/29251/gen-g-vs-tsm-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2-ubqf/?game=46603&tab=overview
Nature dropping 45 in 40 as Kayo
OkOkay [#47]you do realize nobody had a 1k per round stat in the champions tourney. demon1 was closest eith a .92
You do realize they don't play Champions now?
https://www.vlr.gg/29251/gen-g-vs-tsm-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2-ubqf/?game=46603&tab=overview
Here u have 45 in 40 as Kayo, thats not that hard because they literally played 2 maps in one map so its like dropping 20 frags per map
azureblade101 [#45]you are retarded bro, thats incredibly hard to maintain 1 kill per round over that many rounds
especially if its ot cuz u gonna keep losing and winning rounds so its hard asf
also having 1 kpr is impressive regardless
https://www.vlr.gg/29251/gen-g-vs-tsm-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2-ubqf/?game=46603&tab=overview
45 in 40 as Kayo
Yeah Incredibely hard, tahts why almost EVERY player drops like 40 kills over 2 maps
OkOkay [#44]maybe because its double???? and its hard to maintain a 1k per round stat with more rounds. Like dropping 100 kills in 100 rounds is basically impossible if your losing half the rounds.
If its impossible why does it happen literally every 40 rounds game?
Tutatong [#50]https://www.vlr.gg/29251/gen-g-vs-tsm-champions-tour-north-america-stage-3-challengers-2-ubqf/?game=46603&tab=overview
Nature dropping 45 in 40 as Kayo
were talking about franchise lmao? is fut so shit u compare it to tsm? also the fact that h go that many years back alr proves our point in difficulty
velocity05 [#49]you are upvoting your own comments that so sad. Also im talking about that map specifically on Lotus, FUT vs KC why didnt any other player get 1 frag per round?
Your IQ is too low to understand such simple things I guess
OkOkay [#54]were talking about franchise lmao? is fut so shit u compare it to tsm? also the fact that h go that many years back alr proves our point in difficulty
https://www.vlr.gg/248275/drx-vs-evil-geniuses-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubsf/?game=all&tab=overview
Demon1 43 frags in 39 rounds
https://www.vlr.gg/248273/evil-geniuses-vs-edward-gaming-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf/?game=137629&tab=overview
Demon1 47 frags in 36 rounds
https://www.vlr.gg/220448/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-gf/?game=132715&tab=overview
Derke 28 in 26 rounds
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