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Game changers, and the increase of transphobia

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Aivi

Now that map 2 is over, I wanted to make this thread just to shed awareness of the correlation between GC and transphobia.
As a trans person, some of the comments I have seen on this site have been disgusting, I shouldn’t really have expected more, but it feels like the threads are never on the actual Valorant being played, but whom can be the most controversial, without getting banned
Despite being trans, even I was critical of the roster EG put together, and that criticism only increased after the keenc situation. Riot made it clear that they were attempting to put more effort into the ‘screening’ process of players, but the Malibu and Keenc situation disproved that. That split was nightmarish for trans people as myself and others, as all the threads were basically just transphobic. (In retrospect, keenc and Malibu deserved the hate), but for the players who identified as NB, there is a clear line between criticism, and hatred.

Now the flor situation is very different, yes flor is transgender, but that’s it, she’s transgender, and actually is transitioning. Yes she is absolutely cracked at val, but I don’t think that would be any different if she was assigned female at birth. GC is meant to be a space where gender minorities can be represented in an open and accepting space. Comments calling her ‘he’, or mentioning her ‘adams Apple’ or saying she should get ‘surgery’ or take ‘hormones’, is uncalled for and just mean. Flor is still young, and a person like the rest of us, let her live her life how she wants to live it.
Us trans people are humans, We live our lives just like everyone else, and we don’t even want your respect, we just dont want to be hated for existing and wanting to feel comfortable in our bodies
This is very long, and no one will probably read it, but if one person reads it and changes their mind even in the slightest way, then I know I’ve done good
And if it gets deleted, well, to the silent but strong trans community on vlr, I tried :)

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not readin allat but i agree

#3
yukky
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W

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acels2
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allat but agree

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Aivi
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juststormmm [#2]

not readin allat but i agree

Fair enough, I just had to put it out there

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ash_knuckles
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acels2 [#4]

allat but agree

thoughts on twistzz leaving faze?

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NexusFPS
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People just like to be mean for no reason, until people start being mean to them.

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kaninv
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W

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acels2 [#4]

allat but agree

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NexusFPS [#7]

People just like to be mean for no reason, until people start being mean to them.

What you mean no reason you really just believe what you write?

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j3bx5597
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W post.

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StutterSt3p
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This probably isn't going to get a great response, but thanks for trying. W post

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TheHardStuckImmortal
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VLR is a subjugation of edgy teenagers and idiots whose entire worldview is constructed on the opinions and so called "facts" that they get from their echo chamber that most often than not are dog-whistle dogshit narratives on short-form media content. Once you actually try to establish a proper discussion to engage them they try to avoid it as much as possible and refute to making ad hominems cause they are threatened by actual stats and facts that disrupt their narrative. They are stubborn, young and we can only hope that they grow up and touch grass.

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Aivi
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NexusFPS [#7]

People just like to be mean for no reason, until people start being mean to them.

Yeah, it sucks, I wish there was more talk on the actual val being played and less on the players

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Aivi respectfully you got it all wrong we never hated transgendor people , we just don't like things like i identify as something . transgender are immportant part of community and people misunderstod this by there is nothing like transphobic it's more of phobic of some wierd people who identify as weird stuff such as dog, disable . i saw a girl identify as disable allat wut is that shit

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brahianv [#10]

What you mean no reason you really just believe what you write?

Honestly in this site, yes

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Aivi
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StutterSt3p [#12]

This probably isn't going to get a great response, but thanks for trying. W post

Yeah I know, but even if one person reads it and changes their perspective a tiny bit, then that’s a good enough response for me

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Transphobes wont read this, transphobia is built on being uneducated and viewing trans people as not people, as soon as you humanize trans people they stop paying attention

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LokiFc
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If valorant was played by the 60yo people, I would understand... but this response from young people is really sad to see. But, well, incels.

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ash_knuckles [#6]

thoughts on twistzz leaving faze?

he should have joined vitality but instead he decides to play with comediaN

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juststormmm
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De-addy [#15]

Aivi respectfully you got it all wrong we never hated transgendor people , we just don't like things like i identify as something . transgender are immportant part of community and people misunderstod this by there is nothing like transphobic it's more of phobic of some wierd people who identify as weird stuff such as dog, disable . i saw a girl identify as disable allat wut is that shit

u sure bro? cuz i saw a lot of goofy mfs hating on a player just because shes good

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De-addy [#15]

Aivi respectfully you got it all wrong we never hated transgendor people , we just don't like things like i identify as something . transgender are immportant part of community and people misunderstod this by there is nothing like transphobic it's more of phobic of some wierd people who identify as weird stuff such as dog, disable . i saw a girl identify as disable allat wut is that shit

Those are people rage-baiting on tiktok its not actually real, even if it was real its entirely unrelated to trans people and not what we are talking about

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Aivi [#17]

Yeah I know, but even if one person reads it and changes their perspective a tiny bit, then that’s a good enough response for me

That's absolutely fair, it always helps to try I guess.

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idgaf about what your gender is , i couldnt care less, I only start caring when the rights of other people are infringed upon, the female population is much bigger and needs a space separate from the rest to increase participation in esports, trans and any other community should participate only in open tournaments with males

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Aivi
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De-addy [#15]

Aivi respectfully you got it all wrong we never hated transgendor people , we just don't like things like i identify as something . transgender are immportant part of community and people misunderstod this by there is nothing like transphobic it's more of phobic of some wierd people who identify as weird stuff such as dog, disable . i saw a girl identify as disable allat wut is that shit

This is in reference to the comments made towards the gc players, especially flor, which have been disgusting. No one is Identifying as a dog, that’s a whole different situation/problem. GC is open to trans/nb people, yet people are hostile to that notion

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Aivi [#25]

This is in reference to the comments made towards the gc players, especially flor, which have been disgusting. No one is Identifying as a dog, that’s a whole different situation/problem. GC is open to trans/nb people, yet people are hostile to that notion

i have no problem with trans but what the hell is non binary ?

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De-addy [#26]

i have no problem with trans but what the hell is non binary ?

Just someone who doesn’t Identify with male or female, I can understand why you might find it dumb, and you don’t have to respect it, but just don’t hate on people who identify that way

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LifeIsALie [#24]

idgaf about what your gender is , i couldnt care less, I only start caring when the rights of other people are infringed upon, the female population is much bigger and needs a space separate from the rest to increase participation in esports, trans and any other community should participate only in open tournaments with males

last time a trans woman played an esports tournament with men (Remilia in LCS), she received so much hate and harassment from the community that she had to quit mid split, if you really cared about cis women spaces like you claim you do, you would worry less about denouncing trans players in GC and more about making sure the community ins't transphobic and that every kind of person is able to safely play in the mixed scenario.

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Aivi [#27]

Just someone who doesn’t Identify with male or female, I can understand why you might find it dumb, and you don’t have to respect it, but just don’t hate on people who identify that way

well the reason why i hate it is because they create confusions and makes people hate trans in confusion which is wrong

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vinibd2 [#28]

last time a trans woman played an esports tournament with men (Remilia in LCS), she received so much hate and harassment from the community that she had to quit mid split, if you really cared about cis women spaces like you claim you do, you would worry less about denouncing trans players in GC and more about making sure the community ins't transphobic and that every kind of person is able to safely play in the mixed scenario.

She was the girl who had a sex transition surgery under contract with LCS team , fly to asian country to make and gone wrong and killed herself? I remember to hear that history a few years ago

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Kryomeister [#30]

She was the girl who had a sex transition surgery under contract with LCS team , fly to asian country to make and gone wrong and killed herself? I remember to hear that history a few years ago

yes it's her, pretty tragic story

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