Eu was in a slump in the iceland stage, but now teams have rebuilt and looking better and Hot take: But an EU team will Berlin cos sentinels might lack motivation.
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EU has become stronger
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helohelo [#5]EU might be better if fnatic and liquid aren't there
?? fnc is def one of the best eu all of them are like 18
Mrityunjay [#3]Actually , EU Masters was just a lucky run , everyone knew that there were far better teams than Liquid , but Liquid was on that FaZe run where they just rolled in everyone they faced , FPX were a much better option to beat SEN than Fnc and TL
Liquid needs to drop Kryptix imo
alara_acendfan [#4]eu were always better and stronger, we have 4 new qualifying teams for the next main event and who knows maybe last 2 may not be our iceland representatives either. That just shows how much of a rich region we are in terms of tier 1 teams and the degree of competition is beyond other regions.
EU getting 4 slots has nothing to do with competition being higher though. There are different qualifiers for EU with CIS and stuff which is why they get more slots. If it was based off of skill, I don't think anyone would really contest that NA is the strongest region.
alara_acendfan [#4]eu were always better and stronger, we have 4 new qualifying teams for the next main event and who knows maybe last 2 may not be our iceland representatives either. That just shows how much of a rich region we are in terms of tier 1 teams and the degree of competition is beyond other regions.
Quite agree with you,
EU is more rich region, in inconsistency of t1 teams performance. The inconsistency is really2 beyond other region.
Mahj0ngMaster [#8]Liquid needs to drop Kryptix imo
if liquid fixes kryptix and jamppi gets more consistent liquid is easily top 3 in world
Mrityunjay [#3]Actually , EU Masters was just a lucky run , everyone knew that there were far better teams than Liquid , but Liquid was on that FaZe run where they just rolled in everyone they faced , FPX were a much better option to beat SEN than Fnc and TL
fpx? not acend? i mean fpx can be the best team in the world one day and throwing every round the next
ranker11 [#11]if liquid fixes kryptix and jamppi gets more consistent liquid is easily top 3 in world
kekw no liquid are decent and very very good but top 3 world is a stretch
cripsy [#16]I think BDS and FNATIC will get it
tbf ya i think people are sleeping on bds they are a solid solid team and wont be surprised if finest go far
Zaynio [#9]EU getting 4 slots has nothing to do with competition being higher though. There are different qualifiers for EU with CIS and stuff which is why they get more slots. If it was based off of skill, I don't think anyone would really contest that NA is the strongest region.
that’s not what I said
edit: Im saying we have 4 new teams qualified. This means we have lots of teams that can beat our iceland duo
alara_acendfan [#20]that’s not what I said
edit: Im saying we have 4 new teams qualified. This means we have lots of teams that can beat our iceland duo
lol some loser downvoting please keep doing the hard work
ChowChow [#10]Quite agree with you,
EU is more rich region, in inconsistency of t1 teams performance. The inconsistency is really2 beyond other region.
that’s not inconsistency because I can name at least 6 teams that can beat sentinels but you can only name 2 or 3
ihitthat [#6]?? fnc is def one of the best eu all of them are like 18
fnatic is literally 2 months old team and you are calling them the best
alara_acendfan [#22]that’s not inconsistency because I can name at least 6 teams that can beat sentinels but you can only name 2 or 3
You said there's 6 teams that can beat sentinel. But there's proven only 1 iceland champions.
Acend still won nothing and you try roast sentinel. Lmao.
alara_acendfan [#23]fnatic is literally 2 months old team and you are calling them the best
FNATIC signed Sumn FC, the team that went to the final of first strike EU. Secondly, Fnatic entered Valo in February during the first stage of VCT. Third, they signed Derke and Magnum when they failed to qualify for Masters 1 and qualified for Masters 2. They have been the most consistent teams in EU since First strike and can definitely be called one of Eu's best.
ChowChow [#24]You said there's 6 teams that can beat sentinel. But there's proven only 1 iceland champions.
Acend still won nothing and you try roast sentinel. Lmao.
okay bro shut up now .d
ranker11 [#7]or did they?
their top 2 went out of form while 2nd best team couldn't stand a chance vs 1st team (literally took a rush A strat to throw them off guard)
g2 is new, allow them sometime
fnatic is experiencing a compete comp switchup, dunno why but again allow them some time
anddd uh ignore liquid
alara_acendfan [#20]that’s not what I said
edit: Im saying we have 4 new teams qualified. This means we have lots of teams that can beat our iceland duo
In that case, my bad. I misread what you wrote.
Mrityunjay [#3]Actually , EU Masters was just a lucky run , everyone knew that there were far better teams than Liquid , but Liquid was on that FaZe run where they just rolled in everyone they faced , FPX were a much better option to beat SEN than Fnc and TL
ouch
plebwong [#15]fpx? not acend? i mean fpx can be the best team in the world one day and throwing every round the next
Acend last masters were just some darkhorses being carried by Cned like Bref
rushil20 [#18]kekw no liquid are decent and very very good but top 3 world is a stretch
Notice how he said shit they need to fix to become top 3 not that they are top 3
ranker11 [#7]or did they?
their top 2 went out of form while 2nd best team couldn't stand a chance vs 1st team (literally took a rush A strat to throw them off guard)
Did you know that the 2nd best team (G2) had just 1 week to train? LMAO
alara_acendfan [#22]that’s not inconsistency because I can name at least 6 teams that can beat sentinels but you can only name 2 or 3
Name the 6 teams... Sure any team CAN beat Sentinels like BBG but when it comes to teams having a decent chance at beating SEN. The only teams from EU are Acend, FPX and maybe Fnatic. I know you're probably gonna say Liquid, Guild and G2 but Liquid isn't that good and Acend absolutely shit on the other 2 and they(Acend) are around the same level as Sen. Sure if ScreaM pops tf off, or Leo, Sayf and Yaccine all pop off like they did in Challengers 1 or if nukkye pops off and Challengers 1 wasn't just a honeymoon phase from G2 they CAN beat G2 but I don't think any of them have a decent chance. While in NA, XSET beat Sen, V1 with their full roster has a decent chance(especially on Lan since their energy was only matched by Fnatic at Iceland). 100T has a decent chance, like in their recent game they took Sen to 30 rounds on Haven and if they pulled off Haven they might've won Ascent to 2-1 Sen. I would say Acend has a 45% chance, XSET has a 35% chance, FPX has 1 35% chance, 100T has a 30% chance, Fnatic has a 30% chance and Version 1 have a 30% chance. I think teams like G2, Guild, Liquid, Envy and the rest of EU and NA have a >30% chance to beat Sen(although I will say that the team that I didn't mention having a 30% chance or better that has the best chance would be G2 cause they have a great roster and if they gel together and are consistent than they could improve their chances against Sen)
Fat_Lard [#34]Name the 6 teams... Sure any team CAN beat Sentinels like BBG but when it comes to teams having a decent chance at beating SEN. The only teams from EU are Acend, FPX and maybe Fnatic. I know you're probably gonna say Liquid, Guild and G2 but Liquid isn't that good and Acend absolutely shit on the other 2 and they(Acend) are around the same level as Sen. Sure if ScreaM pops tf off, or Leo, Sayf and Yaccine all pop off like they did in Challengers 1 or if nukkye pops off and Challengers 1 wasn't just a honeymoon phase from G2 they CAN beat G2 but I don't think any of them have a decent chance. While in NA, XSET beat Sen, V1 with their full roster has a decent chance(especially on Lan since their energy was only matched by Fnatic at Iceland). 100T has a decent chance, like in their recent game they took Sen to 30 rounds on Haven and if they pulled off Haven they might've won Ascent to 2-1 Sen. I would say Acend has a 45% chance, XSET has a 35% chance, FPX has 1 35% chance, 100T has a 30% chance, Fnatic has a 30% chance and Version 1 have a 30% chance. I think teams like G2, Guild, Liquid, Envy and the rest of EU and NA have a >30% chance to beat Sen(although I will say that the team that I didn't mention having a 30% chance or better that has the best chance would be G2 cause they have a great roster and if they gel together and are consistent than they could improve their chances against Sen)
nice stadistics LMAO
Zaynio [#9]EU getting 4 slots has nothing to do with competition being higher though. There are different qualifiers for EU with CIS and stuff which is why they get more slots. If it was based off of skill, I don't think anyone would really contest that NA is the strongest region.
na number 1
Nosey [#33]Did you know that the 2nd best team (G2) had just 1 week to train? LMAO
bruh the news that g2 and heretics are switching players came after masters 2. do you really think these guys were licking their fingers during this long break?
hellaeleganceyeah [#39]g2 looked insane, but the finals with acend was atrocious. still g2 is the fav going to berlin from emea. keloqz and nukkye are gonna go insane this challengers playoffs.
eh g2 looked uncoordinated but their individual skills r top tier, so good that got them to the grand final. after developing some synergy, theyll be nastyyyy
ranker11 [#38]bruh the news that g2 and heretics are switching players came after masters 2. do you really think these guys were licking their fingers during this long break?
They were, pyth only benched himself in the middle of June. This caused a cascade effect of mixwell picking up a new role and G2 wasting a week or two doing trials to find keloqz. G2 with keloqz and without keloqz were fundamentally two different teams as it wasn't a single player change, but it also made significant changes to the roles of other players within the team.
Glycoroldas [#41]They were, pyth only benched himself in the middle of June. This caused a cascade effect of mixwell picking up a new role and G2 wasting a week or two doing trials to find keloqz. G2 with keloqz and without keloqz were fundamentally two different teams as it wasn't a single player change, but it also made significant changes to the roles of other players within the team.
well fair G2 has all star team they can do much better if they build up team chemistry
ranker11 [#42]well fair G2 has all star team they can do much better if they build up team chemistry
That's my thinking too(or you can call it copium) with all this time they have for practice until EMEA tournament and a bootcamp that they are gonna have in 1 weeks time. Otherwise, I will have to eat my words :D
Fat_Lard [#34]Name the 6 teams... Sure any team CAN beat Sentinels like BBG but when it comes to teams having a decent chance at beating SEN. The only teams from EU are Acend, FPX and maybe Fnatic. I know you're probably gonna say Liquid, Guild and G2 but Liquid isn't that good and Acend absolutely shit on the other 2 and they(Acend) are around the same level as Sen. Sure if ScreaM pops tf off, or Leo, Sayf and Yaccine all pop off like they did in Challengers 1 or if nukkye pops off and Challengers 1 wasn't just a honeymoon phase from G2 they CAN beat G2 but I don't think any of them have a decent chance. While in NA, XSET beat Sen, V1 with their full roster has a decent chance(especially on Lan since their energy was only matched by Fnatic at Iceland). 100T has a decent chance, like in their recent game they took Sen to 30 rounds on Haven and if they pulled off Haven they might've won Ascent to 2-1 Sen. I would say Acend has a 45% chance, XSET has a 35% chance, FPX has 1 35% chance, 100T has a 30% chance, Fnatic has a 30% chance and Version 1 have a 30% chance. I think teams like G2, Guild, Liquid, Envy and the rest of EU and NA have a >30% chance to beat Sen(although I will say that the team that I didn't mention having a 30% chance or better that has the best chance would be G2 cause they have a great roster and if they gel together and are consistent than they could improve their chances against Sen)
didn't read thx have a nice day
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