it have to be only one player, there has to be a balance between performance peaks and how constant this player performs, and how long did this person perform at the highest level, that being said who do you think that is the true goat of vlr? me personally, cant decide between aspas yay and chronicle
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ionlyHave1Zuni [#5]Yay needa prove the haters wrong next year to be a goat again
yes but he have good years in the past, even when the game wasnt about chamber
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe [#11]If we are talking about consistency, the only correct answer is Alfajer
derke has 2021 and alfa doesnt (also derke was better in '22 IMO) , in terms of being elite every year its probably him chronicle shao or (spicy take) crashies
Yessirskiiii [#2]Shao and respectfully, it ain't even particularly close
the smartest Yessirskiiii comment
DetonationFocusMeiy [#3]Its me, lol has faker i am Realer, nice to meet u
I came up with a more descriptive names such as
Authenticiator
Honester
Bona fider
Unfaker
and last but not least
Genuiner
SelectSense [#13]has to be nats no?
nats angle is kinda real but i think chronicle has an objectively better case (bc of superior 2022/23 and also being better at champs '21 IMO)
inlucid [#25]not my champion
The Rock wasn't my champion either but he is still the people's champion.
SmartPerson [#8]yes but he have good years in the past, even when the game wasnt about chamber
if he dominates 2024 then he surely is.
saadhak
- Have a lot of experience on Stage
- Have been on almost all Main Event (except Masters Berlin 2021), Performed decent to very well on all
- Big Brain
- 2022 World Champions
- Molding tuyz and cauanzin into LOUD after losing Sacy and pancada
- IGL of the team defeating Fnatic twice in the same event
- Great Resilience and Mental (which helped LOUD alot on crucial moments)
- Very Humble
- World Class IGL
- Led LOUD to a top tier team
afflict3d [#22]nats angle is kinda real but i think chronicle has an objectively better case (bc of superior 2022/23 and also being better at champs '21 IMO)
damn you might be correct
If we are focusing only on the trophy cabinet, its kronicle, but imo aspas is easily the most consistent (at the highest level) duelist, but I think forsaken can also be brought in, despite no wins, he has always looked really dominant on many different roles. Alfajer has also consistently been a menace, but imo aspas takes it
nAts
Chronicle
Aspas
Saadhaak
Derke
Yay
Demon1
TenZ
IMO these are the candidates for that question in no particular order, and if i had to pick 3 from these they would be (in order) Aspas, Chronicle, Yay
Aspas has been consistent at the top level for so long that i find it hard to argue that he is the closest we have to a GOAT in valorant, though in all honesty i dont think anyone really is the GOAT yet, there just hasnt been enough time to figure out who it is yet. Chronicle i picked again because of consistency and because he has the most trophies of any player. Yay is Yay, he was incredible in 2022 but i dont think anyone can consider him #1 at this point because of his 2023 season (yeah ik DSG had its own problems excluding Yay but still)
Though Demon1 IMO has the most potential to become the GOAT of any player, he just hasnt been in the scene long enough to consider him for a title like that.
SirMeowth [#50]nAts
Chronicle
Aspas
Saadhaak
Derke
Yay
Demon1
TenZIMO these are the candidates for that question in no particular order, and if i had to pick 3 from these they would be (in order) Aspas, Chronicle, Yay
Aspas has been consistent at the top level for so long that i find it hard to argue that he is the closest we have to a GOAT in valorant, though in all honesty i dont think anyone really is the GOAT yet, there just hasnt been enough time to figure out who it is yet. Chronicle i picked again because of consistency and because he has the most trophies of any player. Yay is Yay, he was incredible in 2022 but i dont think anyone can consider him #1 at this point because of his 2023 season (yeah ik DSG had its own problems excluding Yay but still)
Though Demon1 IMO has the most potential to become the GOAT of any player, he just hasnt been in the scene long enough to consider him for a title like that.
Less ?
SirMeowth [#50]nAts
Chronicle
Aspas
Saadhaak
Derke
Yay
Demon1
TenZIMO these are the candidates for that question in no particular order, and if i had to pick 3 from these they would be (in order) Aspas, Chronicle, Yay
Aspas has been consistent at the top level for so long that i find it hard to argue that he is the closest we have to a GOAT in valorant, though in all honesty i dont think anyone really is the GOAT yet, there just hasnt been enough time to figure out who it is yet. Chronicle i picked again because of consistency and because he has the most trophies of any player. Yay is Yay, he was incredible in 2022 but i dont think anyone can consider him #1 at this point because of his 2023 season (yeah ik DSG had its own problems excluding Yay but still)
Though Demon1 IMO has the most potential to become the GOAT of any player, he just hasnt been in the scene long enough to consider him for a title like that.
tenz derke and maybe saadhak its not makin that list in my opinion, and i agree demon1 has the most potential to be by far the best player of ever touch this game
SmartPerson [#53]tenz derke and maybe saadhak its not makin that list in my opinion, and i agree demon1 has the most potential to be by far the best player of ever touch this game
saadhak and derke yes, tenz no
Daddyzin [#54]saadhak and derke yes, tenz no
????? what was the last time you saw tenz playing as good as reykjavik 2021 and winning important games like that? he doesnt play a masters or a champs by months or years
Daddyzin [#54]saadhak and derke yes, tenz no
I'm going to disagree on the TenZ thing, I do believe he has a right to be considered just because of how dominant he was during the earlier stages of the game in masters Reykjavik. And yes ik that happened a long long time ago but this is a question of the greatest of all time not just recent performances, plus his mechanics are still great. Though by no means am i claiming TenZ is currently a top 10 player or something, i probably wouldnt even call him top 30 atm, but he really did define how Jett was played for years and i think that's important to consider, regardless of how much he's fallen off.
Also yeah, should have included Less, he definitely deserves to be considered, just forgot lol.
Less
- Champions 2022 winner at 18 years old
- Lockin 2nd
- Champions 2023 3rd
- Greatest aim in the game
- Single handedly destroyed EMEA multiple times
- Alfa admitted he’s better than him
- Derke said he was the hardest player to play against during Lockin
- Carried aspas numerous times
- Top 3-5 most consistent players
destroylonely [#58]Less
- Champions 2022 winner at 18 years old
- Lockin 2nd
- Champions 2023 3rd
- Greatest aim in the game
- Single handedly destroyed EMEA multiple times
- Alfa admitted he’s better than him
- Derke said he was the hardest player to play against during Lockin
- Carried aspas numerous times
- Top 3-5 most consistent players
17 yr at champs
probably chronicle tbh imagine if russian stuff didn't happen and they didn't choke champs 2021 to the acend frauds who got there by luck and weren't really that good of a team if we bein fr fr (they obv weren't bad but if you think they were the best team at champs id have to disagree) but if gambit had won champs 2021 which they got super close to that would've been 2 in a row and they prolly would've made Reykjavik too and maintained form throughout 2022 etc you see where this is going
destroylonely [#58]Less
- Champions 2022 winner at 18 years old
- Lockin 2nd
- Champions 2023 3rd
- Greatest aim in the game
- Single handedly destroyed EMEA multiple times
- Alfa admitted he’s better than him
- Derke said he was the hardest player to play against during Lockin
- Carried aspas numerous times
- Top 3-5 most consistent players
also 2nd in masters Reykavik
1mBor3d [#62]probably chronicle tbh imagine if russian stuff didn't happen and they didn't choke champs 2021 to the acend frauds who got there by luck and weren't really that good of a team if we bein fr fr (they obv weren't bad but if you think they were the best team at champs id have to disagree) but if gambit had won champs 2021 which they got super close to that would've been 2 in a row and they prolly would've made Reykjavik too and maintained form throughout 2022 etc you see where this is going
Honestly, someone is finally saying some solid facts
kapteN [#71]If your answer isn’t chronicle or derke, you don’t deserve to participate in this conversation.
Both got carried by Leo and Alfajer.
The only right option is Saadhak
- Relevant for 2 years internationally
- Responsible for Strats
- Great at shaping new players
- Diffed all major IGLs
- Won Champs
- Won VCT Americas
- Consistently Top 4
- Great at finding Hidden Talent
- Emotional Leader
- Defined the Meta for Ascent, Breeze, Pearl, Etc
- Constantly adapting and creating new ways to play at the pro level
0fcuZ [#77]You can keep living in the past.
Someone doesn't know what "GOAT" means.
Imagine not considering the past when considering GOAT status. Imagine only looking at the last year. Imagine not being able to rub some braincells together.
It's between yay and Chronicle, I'd add Demon1 to this conversation but we haven't seen enough of him yet. yay was undoubtedly the best player of 2022, he's got the stats to show for it as well as a trophy and he also won the Best Esports Athlete of 2022 whereas Chronicle is the only player to have 3 trophies which is even more impressive when you consider the fact that he's achieved this feat on two completely different teams. Demon1 is the only player to have not only reached but also surpassed 100 kills at a LAN event whilst flexing by the way but like I said, it's too early to put him in this level of conversation yet though he is for sure one of the best players in the game at the moment. Honorable mention is TenZ whom had 79 kills in 3 maps in GF in Champions 2021
kapteN [#78]Someone doesn't know what "GOAT" means.
Imagine not considering the past when considering GOAT status. Imagine only looking at the last year. Imagine not being able to rub some braincells together.
Ok Boomer. Keep yapping LMAO
Schizophrenic_Brazil_Fan [#73]The only right option is Saadhak
- Relevant for 2 years internationally
- Responsible for Strats
- Great at shaping new players
- Diffed all major IGLs
- Won Champs
- Won VCT Americas
- Consistently Top 4
- Great at finding Hidden Talent
- Emotional Leader
- Defined the Meta for Ascent, Breeze, Pearl, Etc
- Constantly adapting and creating new ways to play at the pro level
you can extend and say he defined the meta of the game. every team studied and copied LOUD for a reason
Kaeli [#79]It's between yay and Chronicle, I'd add Demon1 to this conversation but we haven't seen enough of him yet. yay was undoubtedly the best player of 2022, he's got the stats to show for it as well as a trophy and he also won the Best Esports Athlete of 2022 whereas Chronicle is the only player to have 3 trophies which is even more impressive when you consider the fact that he's achieved this feat on two completely different teams. Demon1 is the only player to have not only reached but also surpassed 100 kills at a LAN event whilst flexing by the way but like I said, it's too early to put him in this level of conversation yet though he is for sure one of the best players in the game at the moment. Honorable mention is TenZ whom had 79 kills in 3 maps in GF in Champions 2021
U r forgetting someone 🐼🐼
https://www.vlr.gg/51296/acend-vs-gambit-esports-valorant-champions-2021-gf/?game=all&tab=overview
dezzo [#68]yeah, constantly playing bad
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Er3ngenes1s [#82]U r forgetting someone 🐼🐼
https://www.vlr.gg/51296/acend-vs-gambit-esports-valorant-champions-2021-gf/?game=all&tab=overview
You're right, nAts is indeed amongst the greats as he is synonymous with Cypher and he pioneered the Sentinel role, completely redefining how it can be played
SelectSense [#46]damn you might be correct
its crashies anyway hes been the best player in his region at his role for like 75% or more of real valorant (fuck 2020)
sexocum [#86]where is heat?
heat clears cnerd anyday, the only difference is that heat plays on a stacked region with good duelists that are better than him xd
shitned only has to deal with d0rke, that’s why u think he’s good
grafffuj [#88]He is best player rn(Not even close) but not "of all time"
he was pretty insane on guild so he should be up there
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