Florescent, Bstrdd, Vania, Daiki, Mel and Mimi are better than a lot of T1 players.
Florescent is better than Victor
Bstrdd is better than Taco
Daiki, Mimi Vania are better IGLs than Muriz/Mazin/Xand
Mimi is better than xand
Flor is better than a LOT of T1 duelists
And a lot of GC players that i didn’t mention can easily compete with T2 players.
Florescent is better than Victor >
i got downvotes 30+ on a post for saying this and people are just so cringe and corny when she actually is, and she’s only getting better, the V1 coach helped her and she’s actually improved but people are scared to admit it, and if she dosent get a shot at Tier 1 next year people without a doubt are sexist as hell.
horse69 [#7]florescent is definitely not good enough to be a masters winning player
and victor is ? what did victor do in 2023 ? like what i genuinely think you people don’t even watch her and just chat shit.
Kryomeister [#8]O xand é pior que bater na mae, mas não tem como ele ser pior que o T3 não ta doido
Vai me dizer que a bastarda não é melhor que o xand? Kkkkkkkk
Shawn23 [#10]and victor is ? what did victor do in 2023 ? like what i genuinely think you people don’t even watch her and just chat shit.
But victor is literally a masters winning player
tsmsobadholy [#12]Florescent>Victor might be one of the All time braindead takes tbh.
Yes, you can't compare the level of the competitions they play
dezzo [#13]Vai me dizer que a bastarda não é melhor que o xand? Kkkkkkkk
bstrdd n é nem a melhor que pisou na liga dela
Mkin11 [#14]But victor is literally a masters winning player
wow….. like he wasn’t carried by the best player of the whole year, victor had 1 good phase and that’s before champs of last year, after that he’s just fallen off and there’s much better players in tier 2 i’d rather have, liek FNS said they reached there peak, victor probably won’t be on a team after this year when they shit the bed
balax [#6]mimi isnt an igl for g2. petra is
victor plays flex, is flor going to play flex?
in terms of flor im talking purely NA here outside the LATAM and BR teams, the only person id replace her with is 2023 version of NRG ardiis not FPX ardiis.
O, I thought Mimi was igling after Juliano left.
Flor already said she is willing to play all the roles (just like Victor) outside of GC, that’s why I’m using him as an comparison.
horse69 [#7]florescent is definitely not good enough to be a masters winning player
i wonder if everyone in franchise are good enough to be a masters winning player....
Shawn23 [#10]and victor is ? what did victor do in 2023 ? like what i genuinely think you people don’t even watch her and just chat shit.
victor has won master. look at his 2023 stats he doesnt get the flashiest kills or the clips, he digs deep does his work never complains
there is also a role difference you cant compare, in NA league victor played, jett, kayo, viper, kj, raze (neon in playoffs). cant compare 2 players like this
joaosgreva [#16]bstrdd n é nem a melhor que pisou na liga dela
exato, atualmente ela só é pior que o srn que também tem nível pra sair do gc jkkk
Shawn23 [#9]Florescent is better than Victor >
i got downvotes 30+ on a post for saying this and people are just so cringe and corny when she actually is, and she’s only getting better, the V1 coach helped her and she’s actually improved but people are scared to admit it, and if she dosent get a shot at Tier 1 next year people without a doubt are sexist as hell.
People don’t even watch GC and come to vlr shit talk GC players lmfao. Flor has an insane aim and with a good coach can easily become one of the best players itw
tsmsobadholy [#12]Florescent>Victor might be one of the All time braindead takes tbh.
Wish some of these gc players could make it into T2 to prove themselves making that jump to T1 wouldnt feel right
dezzo [#18]O, I thought Mimi was igling after Juliano left.
Flor already said she is willing to play all the roles (just like Victor) outside of GC, that’s why I’m using him as an comparison.
then why doesnt she now? (abit of a stupid question) you want people to see your worth show it in games or are V1 gonna pull some crazy comp in brazil where flor is senti and meL plays duelist? its easy to say stuff all the right answers but you have to show it. of course i understand team comp but why cant you throw in a sneaky kj, cypher once a while (of course i could just be talking out my ass and smoking crack)
also there are plenty other flexes id put on the chopping board like the guys 100T let go and victor has won a masters. flor has won her NA splits. there are levels to this
(its a discussion, i believe everyone should get a chance because they work hard for it)
dezzo [#21]exato, atualmente ela só é pior que o srn que também tem nível pra sair do gc jkkk
Não da pra comparar quem as duas jogam com quem o xand joga
Mas acho que essas duas tem tudo pra subir pro tier 2 sem tomar skill gap
Agora no t1 tem que se provar mt, ainda mais pq os títulos delas tem menos expressão no cenário misto
all the names you mentioned are absolutely remarkable and talented players, but don’t get it twisted and assume success in one tier is instantly going to translate to a higher level of valorant
shitty example but just cause I’m dropping 30 consistently in my silver 3 lobbies doesn’t mean I’m going to be as good in plat
balax [#26]then why doesnt she now? (abit of a stupid question) you want people to see your worth show it in games or are V1 gonna pull some crazy comp in brazil where flor is senti and meL plays duelist? its easy to say stuff all the right answers but you have to show it. of course i understand team comp but why cant you throw in a sneaky kj, cypher once a while (of course i could just be talking out my ass and smoking crack)
also there are plenty other flexes id put on the chopping board like the guys 100T let go and victor has won a masters. flor has won her NA splits. there are levels to this
(its a discussion, i believe everyone should get a chance because they work hard for it)
Kinda obvious that she only plays duelist now cause she’s easily the best player on GC and can be more impactful on agressive agents.
If she gets an opportunity on a good T2/T1 team, where everyone is as good as her, it won’t be necessary for her to play duelists, but I get your point.
I’m only using Victor as an example because he’s overrated as fuck, but yeah there are plenty other players that can be on this discussion aswell
dezzo [#30]Kinda obvious that she only plays duelist now cause she’s easily the best player on GC and can be more impactful on agressive agents.
If she gets an opportunity on a good T2/T1 team, where everyone is as good as her, it won’t be necessary for her to play duelists, but I get your point.
I’m only using Victor as an example because he’s overrated as fuck, but yeah there are plenty other players that can be on this discussion aswell
Victor isn't overrated bruh in fact he's probably overall underrated by the community considering what he has achieved
extan [#29]all the names you mentioned are absolutely remarkable and talented players, but don’t get it twisted and assume success in one tier is instantly going to translate to a higher level of valorant
shitty example but just cause I’m dropping 30 consistently in my silver 3 lobbies doesn’t mean I’m going to be as good in plat
Totally agree with you, you can’t compare winning a GC split to VCT, ur right.
I’m talking about stuff I see on streams, rankeds and scrims. I know rankeds don’t mean shit, but if ur dropping several mvps, killing +30 all maps on radiant lobbies against actual T1 players, that means something, right?
That’s how aspas got discovered in 2021, just saying..
tsmsobadholy [#31]Victor isn't overrated bruh in fact he's probably overall underrated by the community considering what he has achieved
What did he achieve? Bro didn’t do shit without yay on his team, stop saying he’s a “masters winner” yay carried him for a whole year.
Bro got 4-0ed by BILI BILI gaming and didn’t get a single trophy in 2023 without yay, people are so delusional.
dezzo [#32]Totally agree with you, you can’t compare winning a GC split to VCT, ur right.
I’m talking about stuff I see on streams, rankeds and scrims. I know rankeds don’t mean shit, but if ur dropping several mvps, killing +30 all maps on radiant lobbies against actual T1 players, that means something, right?
That’s how aspas got discovered in 2021, just saying..
tem que por essa mina no t2 primeiro, o aspas era top ranked mas começou bem na média do t2, ai dps subiu pro t1
flor ta no tier 3 ainda, mas acho que ela jogava facil em qualquer time do challengers no t2, caso ela se provasse nesses times por mim jogaria no lugar de muitos homens do t1
dezzo [#30]Kinda obvious that she only plays duelist now cause she’s easily the best player on GC and can be more impactful on agressive agents.
If she gets an opportunity on a good T2/T1 team, where everyone is as good as her, it won’t be necessary for her to play duelists, but I get your point.
I’m only using Victor as an example because he’s overrated as fuck, but yeah there are plenty other players that can be on this discussion aswell
right. so she is the best player and fries is that due to her being above the level of competition and better then everyone? I'd say so. so in this case you can also be impactful in other roles no? moreover there as you said she is the best player and watching the games the level of competition is not as high as prolly t1 or t2.
val is a team game and you need a team to beat these college teams/t3 teams but if you aren't even stomping these guys how can you make the jump (dont have the exact stats atm so prove me wrong)
dezzo [#34]What did he achieve? Bro didn’t do shit without yay on his team, stop saying he’s a “masters winner” yay carried him for a whole year.
Bro got 4-0ed by BILI BILI gaming and didn’t get a single trophy in 2023 without yay, people are so delusional.
https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1652428899547242496
I think this guys opinion probably has a more weight than mine or yours so i'll just leave this here
dezzo [#32]Totally agree with you, you can’t compare winning a GC split to VCT, ur right.
I’m talking about stuff I see on streams, rankeds and scrims. I know rankeds don’t mean shit, but if ur dropping several mvps, killing +30 all maps on radiant lobbies against actual T1 players, that means something, right?
That’s how aspas got discovered in 2021, just saying..
shocker! all pros were “discovered” while playing ranked at least some point in their burgeoning careers!
The radiant stuff is a decently fair point, though again there is that massive gap between radiant and franchised which is why we don’t look at Tarik (as another bad example) and go like “damn this guy is fr T1 material”
It does mean “something” but at that point you should basically trial every Tier 2 pro cause I guarantee that they’re smurfing in radiant as well- any salaried player drops 30 in ranked but it doesn’t mean they’re all on the same level
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