both of them might be proven IGLs but just because it worked with the core of The Guard and Ghost Gaming/M80 it will not translate to Sentinels... just like it didnt work with dephh. Letting Marved go is a mistake IMO.. only better replacement is Saadhak because of chemistry between Sacy and Pancada (assuming they are on the team)
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shrubonfire [#2]dephh didn’t work because ayrin helped with calling
people will say net helped with calling once valyn fails and then they will say zander helped with calling once johnqt fails..
Having a core with chemistry >>>> plugging in the best players in different roles
kskm [#3]people will say net helped with calling once valyn fails and then they will say zander helped with calling once johnqt fails..
Having a core with chemistry >>>> plugging in the best players in different roles
john is a proven igl, Ghost gaming 2022 and m80 2023 bro, this isnt just a random that the coach meat sucked offand gave a opportunity too lmao
shrubonfire [#2]dephh didn’t work because ayrin helped with calling
i doubt that was the issue. crashies vic help call on nrg/optic
moonemi [#6]i hope sen goes “ surprise mf, we keeping the same lcq roster ahaha “
i loved them and lcq was just not enough time for that roster. everyone spoke so highly of them in scrims :(
honestly i agree with you if Marved does leave according the speculations u have so much to choose from
SOM, Zander, BCJ, players from GAURD AND M80
Shawn23 [#8]john is a proven igl, Ghost gaming 2022 and m80 2023 bro, this isnt just a random that the coach meat sucked offand gave a opportunity too lmao
SEN fans dont understand team chemistry, you cant plug and play with players. Almost every successful team has a core which has been together for some time. Its better to give Marved and others time to build that chemistry then plug in johnqt or valyn and begin the process again. They wont stand a chance against EG, LOUD or any team which has been working together for some time.
kskm [#11]SEN fans dont understand team chemistry, you cant plug and play with players. Almost every successful team has a core which has been together for some time. Its better to give Marved and others time to build that chemistry then plug in johnqt or valyn and begin the process again. They wont stand a chance against EG, LOUD or any team which has been working together for some time.
EG and LOUD both changed two of there players at the start of this season SEN has a core of Sacy pANcada TenZ Zekken why keep marved who clearly wasn't a good or proven igl and not get a proven igl and just plug him into a core thats been together for a year now
pugboy [#12]EG and LOUD both changed two of there players at the start of this season SEN has a core of Sacy pANcada TenZ Zekken why keep marved who clearly wasn't a good or proven igl and not get a proven igl and just plug him into a core thats been together for a year now
The IGL is the most important part of the core. EG had C0M, Boostio and Jawg for more than 2 years now.. LOUD has Aspas, Less and Saadhak. Fnatic kept Boaster, Derke, Alfajer. PRX just added something. NRG had the Optic core. All these teams had their IGLs playing with their cores for more than an year coming into franchising. Same goes with why Guard and M80 were good. The most important part is to keep core with IGL since they understand how he is calling, Even FNS mentioned how s0m and ardiis were struggling to adjust to his calling style on NRG which created some problems.. Plugging in johnqt or valyn, rather than letting Marved get better with the team is just resetting everything back to 0.
kskm [#13]The IGL is the most important part of the core. EG had C0M, Boostio and Jawg for more than 2 years now.. LOUD has Aspas, Less and Saadhak. Fnatic kept Boaster, Derke, Alfajer. PRX just added something. NRG had the Optic core. All these teams had their IGLs playing with their cores for more than an year coming into franchising. Same goes with why Guard and M80 were good. The most important part is to keep core with IGL since they understand how he is calling, Even FNS mentioned how s0m and ardiis were struggling to adjust to his calling style on NRG which created some problems.. Plugging in johnqt or valyn, rather than letting Marved get better with the team is just resetting everything back to 0.
but even then if the only role you need is an IGL then get a new IGL don't stick to an "IGL" who really doesn't know how to call at all or to the level we expect from a franchised IGL
pugboy [#14]but even then if the only role you need is an IGL then get a new IGL don't stick to an "IGL" who really doesn't know how to call at all or to the level we expect from a franchised IGL
PRX works without an IGL. No one would've called Boostio a franchised level IGL before the start of the year. Team chemistry >>>>> any individual role or player. That takes time to build, keep chopping and changing and you reset the process to 0
kskm [#15]PRX works without an IGL. No one would've called Boostio a franchised level IGL before the start of the year. Team chemistry >>>>> any individual role or player. That takes time to build, keep chopping and changing and you reset the process to 0
PRX are PRX no one will ever play or be able to play like them and how they do it. Boostio was always an IGL and had experience with it weather you believe he was ready to IGL at tier 1 level. SEN would be stupid to keep Marved he clearly isn't good enough for the IGL role may as well give it a shot with a proven IGL weather you believe "chemistry" is going to effect it
pugboy [#16]PRX are PRX no one will ever play or be able to play like them and how they do it. Boostio was always an IGL and had experience with it weather you believe he was ready to IGL at tier 1 level. SEN would be stupid to keep Marved he clearly isn't good enough for the IGL role may as well give it a shot with a proven IGL weather you believe "chemistry" is going to effect it
prx play the way they do because of team chemistry.. multiple pros have said it. c9 did fine because of team chemistry.. runi was not a proven igl either nor was boostio at the tier 1 level. if sen just keep working together with what they have and build on the chemistry they will be better next year 1000%.. if they dont.. guarenteed they lose again and this forum will be filled with johnqt/valyn/whoever replaces marved hate threads lol
kskm [#17]prx play the way they do because of team chemistry.. multiple pros have said it. c9 did fine because of team chemistry.. runi was not a proven igl either nor was boostio at the tier 1 level. if sen just keep working together with what they have and build on the chemistry they will be better next year 1000%.. if they dont.. guarenteed they lose again and this forum will be filled with johnqt/valyn/whoever replaces marved hate threads lol
prx play the way they do because of team chemistry
that's such a moronic thing to say every team that's good plays well because of chemistry difference not every team can function they way they do without an IGL you can't name a team in cs or valorant that has genuinely worked out and succeeded at the highest level without an IGL. The 4 core on SEN already have chemistry now your just implementing a real IGL with actual strats and ideas + kaplan and john worked together on ghost so they have the chemistry there so making new ideas and strats should be easier for them because they have worked with each other. your argument is so flawed and makes no sense like there really isn't a reason why they wouldn't want johnqt if they could get him
pugboy [#18]prx play the way they do because of team chemistry
that's such a moronic thing to say every team that's good plays well because of chemistry difference not every team can function they way they do without an IGL you can't name a team in cs or valorant that has genuinely worked out and succeeded at the highest level without an IGL. The 4 core on SEN already have chemistry now your just implementing a real IGL with actual strats and ideas + kaplan and john worked together on ghost so they have the chemistry there so making new ideas and strats should be easier for them because they have worked with each other. your argument is so flawed and makes no sense like there really isn't a reason why they wouldn't want johnqt if they could get him
i dont expect a 10 year old idiotic sen fan to understand.. whats worst is you will come up with an excuse once whoever is marved's replacement (johnqt?) fails and yall go back to bashing them and saying oh it was zander who was helping him or oh it was net who was helping them.. its obvious u dont understand the first thing about team chemistry - btw even tenz mentioned it during the champs GF that PRX have incredible team chemistry which is why they win without an IGL.
Unless it is Saadhak, whoever replaces Marved, SEN will not be able to win against the cores of LOUD, EG and whoever keeps their cores. Its obvious you are a typical braindead SEN fan and the entire org makes knee jerk decisions based on what it's braindead fanbase wants which is why they will keep losing
kskm [#19]i dont expect a 10 year old idiotic sen fan to understand.. whats worst is you will come up with an excuse once whoever is marved's replacement (johnqt?) fails and yall go back to bashing them and saying oh it was zander who was helping him or oh it was net who was helping them.. its obvious u dont understand the first thing about team chemistry - btw even tenz mentioned it during the champs GF that PRX have incredible team chemistry which is why they win without an IGL.
Unless it is Saadhak, whoever replaces Marved, SEN will not be able to win against the cores of LOUD, EG and whoever keeps their cores. Its obvious you are a typical braindead SEN fan and the entire org makes knee jerk decisions based on what it's braindead fanbase wants which is why they will keep losing
I'm not going to argue with someone that's just be naïve and cringe obviously that's how PRX succeed how else would they but you still didn't give me one team that has succeeded like PRX with no IGL and just straight chemistry its just not possible in traditional fps. PRX are one of a kind. Idk why your so pressed that you have nothing to back up your opinion u just keep on repeating yourself. You didn't even acknowledge the fact that johnqt and kaplan played with and worked with each other for a long ass time😂. average VLR user not using common sense or having no real evidence to back up their take smh don't care if you think im 10 or whatever you decide to come up with next thread just at least have a valid point next time
pugboy [#20]I'm not going to argue with someone that's just be naïve and cringe obviously that's how PRX succeed how else would they but you still didn't give me one team that has succeeded like PRX with no IGL and just straight chemistry its just not possible in traditional fps. PRX are one of a kind. Idk why your so pressed that you have nothing to back up your opinion u just keep on repeating yourself. You didn't even acknowledge the fact that johnqt and kaplan played with and worked with each other for a long ass time😂. average VLR user not using common sense or having no real evidence to back up their take smh don't care if you think im 10 or whatever you decide to come up with next thread just at least have a valid point next time
if you put any effort to read my comments you would've realized i have already backed every argument with examples. PRX was only an example of another squad which has proved team chemistry is superior to roles and individuals who you and other SEN fans cling to. I've already said this that bringing johnqt in when he has not played with any of the 4 players is a huge mistake and wont reap any benefits.. the coach does not play and there are number of examples of this : LOUD, Guard changing coach did not matter.. team chemistry is something u see on the server and coaches dont add to that chemistry. You asking me for another example like PRX makes no sense.. it just proves my point that having multiple callers or no IGL works if there is team chemistry.. it literally doesnt matter if u have a rookie IGL like runi.. C9 is the best example of it. Yeah i aint gonna reply to ur peanut brain comments which add no counter point.. I will however return once SEN fails to do anything next year with the planned changes.. be ready with your excuses. Im gonna guess its going to be "Zander used to be secondary caller!!!1!!"
danii1 [#24]If their IGLing worked, why wouldn't it work on SEN
i said why.. its because of team chemistry. u cant plug and play with roles and individuals without giving a team time to build chemistry
kskm [#3]people will say net helped with calling once valyn fails and then they will say zander helped with calling once johnqt fails..
Having a core with chemistry >>>> plugging in the best players in different roles
with which player marved has chemistry????????' oh yeah your argument itself fucked up, and dont you dare compare johnqt and valyn´s fragging with dephh´s LMAOOOOO
koromast [#26]with which player marved has chemistry????????' oh yeah your argument itself fucked up, and dont you dare compare johnqt and valyn´s fragging with dephh´s LMAOOOOO
another braindead comment.. if it isnt obvious Marved has already played and practiced with the team. dephh's team did better than valyn and johnqt in 2022.. yeah bring the GE's star ayrin's name again
kskm [#27]another braindead comment.. if it isnt obvious Marved has already played and practiced with the team. dephh's team did better than valyn and johnqt in 2022.. yeah bring the GE's star ayrin's name again
marved played less than 10 matches with the team, he joined mid-season and didnt become igl until the last 2 regular league matches are you sure 5 igl matches are enough to prove a point here? they didnt win anything significant with marved on igl because he isnt even an igl, give johnqt and valyn 6 matches and then you can see anything, also dont act as if bcj cryo and zekken werent nuclear bombs last year on chamber meta while ayrin and dephh had to unite both their brains to know where to exactly make them play and how.
Dephh didn't work because of constant roster changes. Literally, it makes no sense to say that since dephh couldn't produce results, no other igl aside from saadhak would. With Marved we don't know how good he will be as an igl because he's still new at it. Also, if team chemistry is being judged on previous teammates, would Shahzam be the next best fit because of his chemistry with TenZ? Like bruh, what is this logic?
kskm [#25]i said why.. its because of team chemistry. u cant plug and play with roles and individuals without giving a team time to build chemistry
They've got the whole off season for that 😄
koromast [#28]marved played less than 10 matches with the team, he joined mid-season and didnt become igl until the last 2 regular league matches are you sure 5 igl matches are enough to prove a point here? they didnt win anything significant with marved on igl because he isnt even an igl, give johnqt and valyn 6 matches and then you can see anything, also dont act as if bcj cryo and zekken werent nuclear bombs last year on chamber meta while ayrin and dephh had to unite both their brains to know where to exactly make them play and how.
nobody is born an igl.. what are u on about.. just contradicting yourself. marved has said he wants to be an IGL and obviously needs time to become better.. since they practiced for more than 2 months before lcq and got better its definitely prudent to give the team more time as they have already worked together. bringing in valyn/johnqt who have only proved themselves with their cores of Guard and Ghost gaming/M80 is counterproductive and brings the progress back to 0. u are just proving my point by saying team chemistry is more important than the individual IGL.. if valyn/johnqt dont work u are gonna say the same shit on how net/zander had to help them earlier.
StutterSt3p [#29]Dephh didn't work because of constant roster changes. Literally, it makes no sense to say that since dephh couldn't produce results, no other igl aside from saadhak would. With Marved we don't know how good he will be as an igl because he's still new at it. Also, if team chemistry is being judged on previous teammates, would Shahzam be the next best fit because of his chemistry with TenZ? Like bruh, what is this logic?
what roster changes? they subbed Tenz for marved for a game because he couldnt play and the other change was sykko who isnt even a tactical coach so it didnt make any impact. core is usually IGL + 2 others teammates which SEN did not have.. shazam analogy doesnt make any sense considering how horrible the team was in 2022. try to make some sense
moshimoshiman24 [#4]just get marved off of igl and u good, when he has to igl his fragging turns from god tier to mid
Give us the og optic back
kskm [#32]what roster changes? they subbed Tenz for marved for a game because he couldnt play and the other change was sykko who isnt even a tactical coach so it didnt make any impact. core is usually IGL + 2 others teammates which SEN did not have.. shazam analogy doesnt make any sense considering how horrible the team was in 2022. try to make some sense
Change one was Marved for TenZ, then TenZ for dephh, but these moves happened like weeks apart. How is a team supposed to build chemistry if a roster is changing during the season?
Also, the Shahzam analogy makes perfect sense since your reasoning in the original post was because of his chemistry with Sacy and pancada, not his results with Loud. Also, Shahzam cannot be blamed entirely for SEN being bad in 2022, and tbh when they actually got a chance to bootcamp they didn't do that bad.
You're reasoning makes literally no sense because teams can't all start with previous cores, but they can still succeed. Like C9 only had leaf and xeppaa from the old C9, and yet they did pretty well. Conversely, 100T only changed will for Cryo and did really bad. If a team makes a change even if it's just one, the team will need time to build chemistry no matter what.
The change that makes the most sense is johnqt and it's not close. If pancada is going to switch back to smokes, which he's more comfortable with, SEN needs a sentinel IGL, which johnqt is. Plus, if you wanna talk about chemistry, Kaplan used to coach johnqt on Ghost gaming.
kskm [#32]what roster changes? they subbed Tenz for marved for a game because he couldnt play and the other change was sykko who isnt even a tactical coach so it didnt make any impact. core is usually IGL + 2 others teammates which SEN did not have.. shazam analogy doesnt make any sense considering how horrible the team was in 2022. try to make some sense
they had one month of prac before lock//in -> after they changed their roles (sacy on smokes and pancada on sentinel) -> fired their head coach (it is total bullshit to say this doesnt make impact) -> put marved in for tenz (changing roles again) -> then dephh left
i think that is a decent amount of turmoil that hinders an IGL's ability to lead a team effectively
kskm [#11]SEN fans dont understand team chemistry, you cant plug and play with players. Almost every successful team has a core which has been together for some time. Its better to give Marved and others time to build that chemistry then plug in johnqt or valyn and begin the process again. They wont stand a chance against EG, LOUD or any team which has been working together for some time.
i think marved is out not only because of the igling but because of the roles too, as marved contract is over this year and pancada still up to 1 year more, and i honestly think pancada>>>marved, and we already have a core: tenz, zekken, sacy, pancada, we just need an igl now
StutterSt3p [#34]Change one was Marved for TenZ, then TenZ for dephh, but these moves happened like weeks apart. How is a team supposed to build chemistry if a roster is changing during the season?
Also, the Shahzam analogy makes perfect sense since your reasoning in the original post was because of his chemistry with Sacy and pancada, not his results with Loud. Also, Shahzam cannot be blamed entirely for SEN being bad in 2022, and tbh when they actually got a chance to bootcamp they didn't do that bad.
You're reasoning makes literally no sense because teams can't all start with previous cores, but they can still succeed. Like C9 only had leaf and xeppaa from the old C9, and yet they did pretty well. Conversely, 100T only changed will for Cryo and did really bad. If a team makes a change even if it's just one, the team will need time to build chemistry no matter what.
The change that makes the most sense is johnqt and it's not close. If pancada is going to switch back to smokes, which he's more comfortable with, SEN needs a sentinel IGL, which johnqt is. Plus, if you wanna talk about chemistry, Kaplan used to coach johnqt on Ghost gaming.
So as i said it was basically only 1 change for dephh, which is marved for tenz.. dephh's removal wouldnt have any affect on dephh's igl since he was gone... sykko was never a tactical coach it was always kaplan so it doesnt make any difference again
shazam got 2022 with same core because of 2021 performance but obviously things changed after that because of franchising and optic, xset and all the players being f/a.. sen went on to choose 3 from xset core, 2 from loud and kept their poster kid. obviously these kind of fragmented cores with colliding roles did not work as there is no chemistry.. you cannot just plug in the best from previous years performance into individual roles and expect some magic. unless one feels that the team cannot win or function as a 5.. there is no need to make any changes.. it is better to give them chance to improve and work rather than keeping a guillotine over their heads and say win or leave.. case in point : how did kru turn around 0-9 and win lcq with no changes?
100t case : they started their season pretty well, won red bull against a supposed superteam of c9 and lost to fnatic in lock//in.. their americas season was in fact better than sentinels even if they lost head to head considering if they didnt lose against mibr.. it wouldve been 100t in playoffs rather than eg. so up until this point 100t was better than eg.. which isnt bad. c9 kept vanity, leaf and xeppa to protect their core in which they believed.. most people were shocked after they performed even after runi and jakee inclusion because somehow the chemistry worked.. infact this proves my point - team chemistry is more important than buying the best player in a certain role.. runi or jakee by no means are the best available igl or smokes but since they strengthened the chemistry it was good.. now u cannot guarantee this so the best way to build it is to keep ur core players or if u have new ones give them time to improve.
pancada has mentioned he is comfortable on kj and viper.. so u dont have to assume on his behalf.. coaches dont add to team chemistry on the server.. kaplan and johnqt working together wont bring any chemistry to the server.. LOUD, The Guard changing coaches never mattered.
Cannot [#35]they had one month of prac before lock//in -> after they changed their roles (sacy on smokes and pancada on sentinel) -> fired their head coach (it is total bullshit to say this doesnt make impact) -> put marved in for tenz (changing roles again) -> then dephh left
i think that is a decent amount of turmoil that hinders an IGL's ability to lead a team effectively
which igl? how can dephh leaving affect dephh's IGLing? do u want a list of teams that changed roles and succeeded? in case of sykko he might be head coach but didnt make the tactical decisions, he is a powerpoint executive kinda guy who just gives out motivational speeches and talks about basic shit.. everything was always being done by kaplan and drewspark.
kskm [#22]if you put any effort to read my comments you would've realized i have already backed every argument with examples. PRX was only an example of another squad which has proved team chemistry is superior to roles and individuals who you and other SEN fans cling to. I've already said this that bringing johnqt in when he has not played with any of the 4 players is a huge mistake and wont reap any benefits.. the coach does not play and there are number of examples of this : LOUD, Guard changing coach did not matter.. team chemistry is something u see on the server and coaches dont add to that chemistry. You asking me for another example like PRX makes no sense.. it just proves my point that having multiple callers or no IGL works if there is team chemistry.. it literally doesnt matter if u have a rookie IGL like runi.. C9 is the best example of it. Yeah i aint gonna reply to ur peanut brain comments which add no counter point.. I will however return once SEN fails to do anything next year with the planned changes.. be ready with your excuses. Im gonna guess its going to be "Zander used to be secondary caller!!!1!!"
bro your still not going to give me a team that doesn't have an IGL that has succeeded your just stupid you haven't even considered how bad the roles would be keeping pANcada on senti is troll as fuck because you can't have pANcada on smokes if you have marved johnqt not only has experience with coach but also plays senti and IGLS literally everything they need your so braindead idk why you keep bringing up zander that isn't even relevant
pugboy [#39]bro your still not going to give me a team that doesn't have an IGL that has succeeded your just stupid you haven't even considered how bad the roles would be keeping pANcada on senti is troll as fuck because you can't have pANcada on smokes if you have marved johnqt not only has experience with coach but also plays senti and IGLS literally everything they need your so braindead idk why you keep bringing up zander that isn't even relevant
reread what i've written.. cause i have already answered ur question.. u just seem like an uneducated fool with below average reading comprehension.. it does not matter if there is another team like PRX cause u need to understand why i brought that example in the first place : team chemistry is more important than individuals or roles.. it doesnt even matter if u have to replace something with a pubg streamer.. u can still get #4 place in a major.. buying the best IGL in a certain role expecting it to solve ur problem (johnqt IGL,Sentinel) is just braindead... with evolving maps, metas and new agents its braindead to assume everyone will only be playing whatever role is assigned to them. Pancada has said he is comfortable on kj, viper and ur peanut brain does not need to assume on his behalf.
im bringing up zander since u will say "omhg zander used to call on m80 once johnqt fails on sentinels.." just like ur peanut brains have been saying it was ayrin who used to call once dephh failed
kskm [#40]reread what i've written.. cause i have already answered ur question.. u just seem like an uneducated fool with below average reading comprehension.. it does not matter if there is another team like PRX cause u need to understand why i brought that example in the first place : team chemistry is more important than individuals or roles.. it doesnt even matter if u have to replace something with a pubg streamer.. u can still get #4 place in a major.. buying the best IGL in a certain role expecting it to solve ur problem (johnqt IGL,Sentinel) is just braindead... with evolving maps, metas and new agents its braindead to assume everyone will only be playing whatever role is assigned to them. Pancada has said he is comfortable on kj, viper and ur peanut brain does not need to assume on his behalf.
im bringing up zander since u will say "omhg zander used to call on m80 once johnqt fails on sentinels.." just like ur peanut brains have been saying it was ayrin who used to call once dephh failed
impossible to argue with an idiot you keep on bringing up chemistry it's so unbelievably stupid Johnqt and Kaplan have crazy chemistry why don't you consider that just admit you hate johnqt or something pANcada = not good senti player and he was the best controller in the world before they switched him to that role why not put him on his best role get johnqt an actual IGL that plays sentinel and your roles are perfect you will already have the "chemistry" you so desire with kaplan and then it will be easy pickings from there there's a reason why fnatic and EG were the best in the world #1 roles worked perfectly no one felt out of place and EG got a miracle knowing demon1 can play smokes #2 had amazing players with good chemistry like it just clicked I don't know why you aren't considering that chronicle demon1 ethan and leo weren't even part of the core of those teams why weren't you worried about chemistry than??? also ayrin was definitely the main caller on that team that was just a known thing dephh only called on the attack side I remember that so funny and delusional that you think Marved works with this team like come on he doesn't even IGL but you except them to play like paper rex so dumb
kskm [#11]SEN fans dont understand team chemistry, you cant plug and play with players. Almost every successful team has a core which has been together for some time. Its better to give Marved and others time to build that chemistry then plug in johnqt or valyn and begin the process again. They wont stand a chance against EG, LOUD or any team which has been working together for some time.
i would give the time to sen with an actual igl instead of some guy who is learning to igl while also trying to build team chemistry
pugboy [#42]impossible to argue with an idiot you keep on bringing up chemistry it's so unbelievably stupid Johnqt and Kaplan have crazy chemistry why don't you consider that just admit you hate johnqt or something pANcada = not good senti player and he was the best controller in the world before they switched him to that role why not put him on his best role get johnqt an actual IGL that plays sentinel and your roles are perfect you will already have the "chemistry" you so desire with kaplan and then it will be easy pickings from there there's a reason why fnatic and EG were the best in the world #1 roles worked perfectly no one felt out of place and EG got a miracle knowing demon1 can play smokes #2 had amazing players with good chemistry like it just clicked I don't know why you aren't considering that chronicle demon1 ethan and leo weren't even part of the core of those teams why weren't you worried about chemistry than??? also ayrin was definitely the main caller on that team that was just a known thing dephh only called on the attack side I remember that so funny and delusional that you think Marved works with this team like come on he doesn't even IGL but you except them to play like paper rex so dumb
you are a fucking idiot who has 0 understanding of how the game works.. EG kept their core of Boostio, c0m and jawgemo who have worked together before franchising. Same goes with Fnatic who had Boaster, Alfa and Derke.. A core means IGL and 2 important players.. these teams have had them for 2+ years. There is a reason why M80 was good because they kept the same core despite losing their coach. The Guard won because of same core despite losing their coach.. You are a typical SEN fan who has 0 understanding of the game... so fucking braindead to even waste time arguing with fools like you. Roles and Individuals dont really matter.. if Demon1 on smokes didnt work yall would be bashing EG for having a jett player play smokes.. There are literally 1000 examples of this which I have already given. I wont reply to your braindead comments anymore cause u obviously have no understanding of anything. If johnqt or valyn is picked up.. I guarentee SEN will not play an international LAN again. I will come back to this thread then and please be ready with your excuse.
kskm [#44]you are a fucking idiot who has 0 understanding of how the game works.. EG kept their core of Boostio, c0m and jawgemo who have worked together before franchising. Same goes with Fnatic who had Boaster, Alfa and Derke.. A core means IGL and 2 important players.. these teams have had them for 2+ years. There is a reason why M80 was good because they kept the same core despite losing their coach. The Guard won because of same core despite losing their coach.. You are a typical SEN fan who has 0 understanding of the game... so fucking braindead to even waste time arguing with fools like you. Roles and Individuals dont really matter.. if Demon1 on smokes didnt work yall would be bashing EG for having a jett player play smokes.. There are literally 1000 examples of this which I have already given. I wont reply to your braindead comments anymore cause u obviously have no understanding of anything. If johnqt or valyn is picked up.. I guarentee SEN will not play an international LAN again. I will come back to this thread then and please be ready with your excuse.
lil bro is mad he is the only person with this opinion stop glazing marved so much he was only on the team for like 10 weeks doubt they built that much chemistry
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